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Topic: Axis of Earthquakes?
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iQ Moderator Posts: 5770 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 18, 2010 03:01 AM
The line of 22-25 Capricorn to 22-25 Cancer?1. The deadliest ever earthquake in Shaanxi on 23 Jan 1556 has that day's Draconic Saturn conj 24 Capricorn. 2. Tsuami of 26th December 2004 has an exact Chiron opp Saturn in 25 Cap to 25 Cancer. 3. Haiti's killer earthquake 13th Jan 2010 matched a Solar Eclipse on 25 Capricorn. 4. 893 23rd March in Iran: Dr Pluto is on 24 Cancer. True Node that day was 22 Capricorn, eerily close to Haiti's quake. 5. Interesting point: The Great Tangshan Earthquake of 28 July 1976 DID NOT have anything in the 25 Cap-Cancer axis but the Ascendant of the dreadful quake was 11.54 Cancer. Conjunt to the Ascendant was Asteroid TANGSHAN.... 6. Quetta 1935 May 31st: True Node 22.5 Capricorn. Pluto 24.3 Cancer! 7. Nov 1, 1755 Lisbon in Portugal: KARMA 25 Cancer opp Saturn 23 Capricorn. 8. Iran 20 June 1990: Saturn conj POSEIDON in 24 Capricorn. I have to do more research, but I think there is more than sufficient evidence. IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1279 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 18, 2010 03:30 AM
Hello IQ,It seems like a strong observation. I have a significant T-Square involved with 25 degrees Cardinal and I'm not quite sure how this eclipse will manifest for me, but I'm sure I'll find out when Mars or Saturn triggers it. Mars is already a part of the T-Square. If you count asteroid "Gold", I have that at 25 Capricorn, that creates a Grand Square for me. We'll see what happens, I'll be praying that God helps me to use the energy in the most positive way possible. Geocosmic Valentine ------------------ "Everybody is a star!" _Sly & the Family Stone IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7076 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 18, 2010 04:49 AM
That is very interesting, and even downright scary.IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 5770 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 18, 2010 04:53 AM
Hi Geocosmic, Since you are Astrologically aware, it wont be too difficult to tackle the Grand Cross. I would pay attention to transits on the Eclipse Point from today. Notably: Sun on 25 Aries this year should create a major event. Every month Moon conj 25 Capricorn can create a minor event. In Dec 2012, Mars will be conjunct 25 Capricorn, that would be very important. The deadliest event for our generation could actually occur when Pluto conjuncts 25 Capricorn, than in 2012.
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7076 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 18, 2010 04:57 AM
i have dr venus on 25 aries, do you think it would affect me as well?IP: Logged |
braveheart Knowflake Posts: 132 From: sydney, nsw, oz Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 18, 2010 05:14 AM
I don't know if this helps your research, IQ. The degrees are a bit early. The city of Newcastle, which is on the north coast of NSW, suffered an earthquake on Dec 28, 1989 @ 10.27am. Mercury is 25 Cap Vertex is 19 Cap Saturn 15 Cap opposing Chiron 14 Cancer Sun is 6 Cap, Moon is 4 Cap Uranus 5 Cap Neptune 11 Cap Jupiter 5 Cancer edit: If I do a draconic chart for this event Mars 19 Cap is conjunct MC 15 Cap also DR chiron is 27 Leo, is that conjunct regulus? IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7076 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 18, 2010 05:26 AM
the DRACO Pluto was on 25 Cap on 25th november 2007.I wonder how Draco Transits difer from tropical ones. EDIT: There was an earthquake on Martinique on 29th november, and one other on 20th december that year. but of course there happen several earthquake every year. IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 18, 2010 05:50 AM
YIKES!!Geo, me too. Solar eclipse made a grand cross for me with natal AND progressed chart. In natal I have: amor 25' Aries valentine 22' cancer ceres 27' libra can't check rest as on iPhone what is the sabian for 25' Capricorn? Anyone checked it out? IP: Logged |
braveheart Knowflake Posts: 132 From: sydney, nsw, oz Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 18, 2010 06:01 AM
IQMelbourne, Australia was hit by an earthquake, March 6, 2009 @ 8.55 pm. Victoria, the state in which Melbourne is the capital is 25 Cancer Moon 13 Can conjunct (loosely?) MC 7 Can Pluto 3 Cap conjunct IC 7 Cap IP: Logged |
MsCandeh Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted January 18, 2010 06:27 AM
Wow that's some good observing iQ. I think you're onto something.Lara the sabian symbols for 22 - 25 Cap: 22-23 deg Capricorn A Soldier Receiving Two Awards For Bravery In Combat 23-24 deg Capricorn A Woman Entering A Convent 24-25 deg Capricorn A Store Filled With Precious Oriental Rugs 25-26 deg Capricorn A Nature Sprit Dancing In The Iridescent Mist Of A Waterfall And for 22 - 25 Cancer:
22-23 deg Cancer The Meeting Of A Literary Society 23-24 deg Cancer A Woman And Two Men Castaways On A Small Island Of The South Seas 24-25 deg Cancer A Willful Man Is Overshadowed By A Descent Of Superior Power 25-26 deg Cancer Guests Are Reading In The Library Of A Luxurious Home I don't really have anything in the late caridinal sign degrees except in Aries. Merc at 28 Aries but I don't think that's close enough? Ceres, Pholus, Hera at 22, 23 and 24 Aries respectively, but I can't imagine that means much in this respect. IP: Logged |
Deux*Antares Knowflake Posts: 958 From: I am where I am and it's enough. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 18, 2010 06:32 AM
Interesting, IQ!Philippine Earthquake 7.7 on the Richter Scale IP: Logged |
MsCandeh Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted January 18, 2010 06:33 AM
hmm interetsing about the Boxing Day Tsunami.Chiron at 25 Cap: A Nature Sprit Dancing In The Iridescent Mist Of A Waterfall Saturn at 24 Can: Guests Are Reading In The Library Of A Luxurious Home Water and Luxury. A lot of resorts were destroyed. But I do read these a bit too literally than they are probably intended iQ .. do you have any sabian insights for this axis? I also find it interesting that its running on the antiscia axis degrees. (cap - cancer axis).
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MsCandeh Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted January 18, 2010 08:30 AM
Point of interest1999 Moore OK tornado: DR Vertex 22 Cancer, House 8. DR Pluto 22 Capricorn, sitting on the anti-Vertex. I am studying this chart in detail between DR and geocentric. The DR ASC (10 Gemini) is conjunct the geocentric Vertex to the degree. Sabian: Newly Opened Lands Offer The Pioneer New Opportunities For Experience. I'll post more in another thread IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7076 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 18, 2010 09:11 AM
10 Gemini is not only my SN , but also the antiscion / contrascion of 20 Cancer-Capricorn.IP: Logged |
MsCandeh Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted January 18, 2010 10:20 AM
It is too! Wonder what it means conj your SN? I looked up another chart for the first (and last so far) EF5 since the Fujita scale was "enhanced". This happened on 4 May 2007 in Greensburg, Kansas. DR ASC 16 Sagittarius .. antiscia 14 Capricorn. The town's DR name is located at 17 Gemini (13 Cancer antiscia). DR Pluto at 14 Capricorn (conjunct DR ASC antiscia point!) opposite DR Venus at 12 Cancer (conjucnt DR name antiscia point). Geocentric Vertex at 16 Cancer in the 8th house.
Eris (Aries) trine Jupiter (Sag) by 2.5 deg. Moore, OK tornado had Jupiter applying conjunct Eris at 18/19 Aries respectively. The Haiti earthquake had Eris Septile Jupiter. Septile is a 7th Harmonic aspect. Here's a description of the aspect taken from Wiki: The septile (abrv. Sep) is an angle of 51.428571°, or approximately 51°25'43", one-seventh of the circle of the zodiac. It is supposed to be aspected to have irrational relations between its constituent components but confer the hidden underlying nature and deeper destiny of them Eris was the Goddess of Strife in Greek mythology. The 2004 Tsunami had Jupiter in applying opposition to Eris by 3 degrees. Keeping in mind how slow Eris is in comparison to Jupiter (like the Moon compared to Pluto). It seems Gemini/Sag seem to figure prominently in the two tornado studies I have started And their significant antiscia points are located on the Cancer/Capricorn axis. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7076 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 18, 2010 10:44 AM
Well, 1999 was an extremely important time for me, emotionally, spiritually but also in terms of practical life. There was also a great loss this year, as my maternal grandfather died.So these placements, if put in my chart, of course will signify some personal developments or events, even though I luckily did not experience an earthquake back then. Interestingly this tornado chart definitely links to my chart, which only means that I was sensitive to this timequality I guess. My Vertex is on 21 Cancer, my Sun-Moon-mp is on 21 Capricorn, my Destinn is on 23 Cancer and my Eros is on 21 Cancer. Your research seems to confirm something I have long suspected; that we definitely underestimate the antiscia / contrascia axis.
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Node Knowflake Posts: 3161 From: 2,015 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 18, 2010 11:08 AM
Interesting that Pluto IQ, on Jan 12 2020 we have-> 29 Aqua is a player again, and as a singleton. I am still looking at the ephemeris. American Samoa is random by the way. Here is a relationship chart...there is much to think about. IP: Logged |
MsCandeh Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted January 18, 2010 11:51 AM
DD I've always thought the antiscia axis was important and I can't believe I forgot it until you pointed it out!Interestingly for the 10 April 1979 "Terrible Tuesday" Wichita Falls TX tornados, Jupiter was Squine(105) (close to biseptile which is 102.5) Eris. I wish more was written on squine aspects because I have found 105 deg aspects to be significant, well for me anyway. Tomorrow I'll see if I can draw up a chart and see where significant points lie. The only thing I can see at the moment is Jupiter at 29 Cancer.I have a feeling (from memory) the big tornado happened around 10:30 in the morning which would make the ASC in Gemini. Funny that! Node, interesting to see the chart comparisons! Moon and Mars both in fire signs in both charts... Moon seems to be quite heavy in the 1st chart... Haiti chart Saturn AND Mars seemed to be the heavy planets (aspecting lots of others... taking the weight of all of that... I dont know what I'm saying really, it just "feels" that way ) Uranus and Mars are in quincunx signs in both charts. That may be a good week to stay inside! IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 2734 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 18, 2010 06:12 PM
quote: The deadliest event for our generation could actually occur when Pluto conjuncts 25 Capricorn, than in 2012.
Um, IQ, wouldn't that be the USA's Pluto return? By the way, this is a great and informative thread. Thanks for starting it. IP: Logged |
comica23 Knowflake Posts: 1212 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 18, 2010 06:46 PM
Sometimes, astrology is kinda scary. >_<IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 18, 2010 09:05 PM
IQ http://tomkenyon.com/haiti-and-the-chaotic-node IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 5770 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 19, 2010 04:08 AM
Thanks Lara. That page could explain the very painful sinus and sleep deprivation for me this week. Belage, USA's Pluto Return is very important. If American Karma is balanced with global positive work [especially to undo the BUsh Era damage], then the dreadful Yellowstone Caldera will not explode during the Pluto Return. [Many doomsayers want it to explode... they have no idea of the consequences] Thanks for additional info Braveheart and Mscandeh. I have been studying only devastating quakes with heavy death tolls. I dont think this axis will be relevant for all types of quakes or other disasters. For minor quakes, we may have to study other axis lines or aspects. And applying the Microcosm = Macrocosm law, an external earthquake for a nation could be mapped to internal earthquakes of emotions/relationships/unreleased circumstances in our lives.
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7076 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 19, 2010 04:28 AM
IQ,I agree with you. Not every minor earthquake will have that astrological signature, only those which will be globally influental and destructive. "And applying the Microcosm = Macrocosm law, an external earthquake for a nation could be mapped to internal earthquakes of emotions/relationships/unreleased circumstances in our lives." Absolutely agree. That was what I was trying to hint at when I related this other earthquake chart back to my personal chart.
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iQ Moderator Posts: 5770 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 19, 2010 07:00 AM
Hi DD, Yes, you assessed the microcosm-macrocosm effect correctly. << Your research seems to confirm something I have long suspected; that we definitely underestimate the antiscia / contrascia axis. >> I have to re-look this Antiscia Axis myself. See, 0 Cancer to 0 Capricorn is the Solstice Axis. When in the Sidereal Zodiac will it be 0 Cancer to 0 Capricorn? In Tropical 24 Cancer to 24 Capricorn.... I must find one starting point for mapping Latitude and Longitude of any nation to the Ecliptic Plane, and we can then pinpoint the next big seismic event. For now Asteroids are the only clue as seen in Asteroid TANGSHAN. In one deadly event, Asteroid VULCANO was on 25 Capricorn... IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7076 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 19, 2010 08:35 AM
"See, 0 Cancer to 0 Capricorn is the Solstice Axis. When in the Sidereal Zodiac will it be 0 Cancer to 0 Capricorn? In Tropical 24 Cancer to 24 Capricorn...."Yes, this is the solstice axis. But I always thought it was related to tropical zodiac? Am I mistaken? IP: Logged |