posted February 20, 2019 08:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i'm like that too people i love can drive me mad and i can feel some level of hate for them

people i don't care for i'm just indifferent too, maybe i'll think poorly of them but it's not something with emotion attached

i think that's my t-square in action honestly, with the moon- mars and mars-venus and moon-venus it makes those deeper emotions closer to home

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That's interesting. Makes sense, I'm thinking of a person now that I just despise lol I don't even bother hiding it from her. Just everything she says annoys me to my guts and I just bring her down in every way possible lol I should stop doing that. She's like not at fault at all, never actually done me any harm. Just her 'opinions' and... ugh. Like during my separation she was telling me how cute we look together. I knew instantly why she said it, and she just confirmed later that she was trying to 'save' our marriage idiot. Whatever lol. We probably have some hard Pluto aspects that she's able to affect me that way. Like to my Mars or something. (She's 33 I think so that would make sense, I think Pluto would be towards the end of Libra then)

posted February 20, 2019 08:29 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
And on top of that you are a hypocrite saying I made a thread about how Gemini’s are only good for hookups. Yet here you are bashing people with Mars in Cancer.

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lol we went over this last night

i brought up that thread because you told me you don't talk any **** about signs you dislike and i was saying "yeah you do you even made a thread for it"

i wasn't being a hypocrite, i owned what i said about mars in cancer and me disliking some of the negative qualities of the placement and i also think people are and should be free to express their views and experiences of particular signs to paint a more cohesive picture for astrologers

there's no hypocrisy in what i said, there is however hypocrisy in telling someone they shouldn't express a view (a single time btw, and you jumped down my throat over a post that was addressed to someone else and had zero opinions in it) and saying "i don't do this" and then having a thread up that you made where you legit did that

posted February 20, 2019 08:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:

edit: i don't know how much you know about something like hermeticism but the law of polarity illustrates what i'm talking about well enough

love and hate are just two sides of the same coin, they're not entirely separate and they both have depth of feeling

love can turn to hate and vice versa, lines get crossed

indifference is actually an indicator of a lack of anything and runs much colder, because it's something else entirely

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posted February 20, 2019 08:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
That's interesting. Makes sense, I'm thinking of a person now that I just despise lol I don't even bother hiding it from her. Just everything she says annoys me to my guts and I just bring her down in every way possible lol I should stop doing that. She's like not at fault at all, never actually done me any harm. Just her 'opinions' and... ugh. Like during my separation she was telling me how cute we look together. I knew instantly why she said it, and she just confirmed later that she was trying to 'save' our marriage idiot. Whatever lol. We probably have some hard Pluto aspects that she's able to affect me that way. Like to my Mars or something. (She's 33 I think so that would make sense, I think Pluto would be towards the end of Libra then)

Anyway me rambling.

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i'm 32 my pluto is in scorpio, i imagine hers probably is too

it's a little tactless to say things like that when someone is going through a separation so i get that

sometimes people rub other people in a way where they can't keep their mouths shut no matter what the other person is actually doing (this thread illustrates that perfectly look at the way childofvenus reacts to me lol) is what it is

usually is better to control yourself, but **** happens sometimes what can you do? we're not all monks or some **** masters of self control lol

posted February 20, 2019 08:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Yeah I actually did hear of it. With other people it's probably true. But this woman I will never love lol. Pretty certain.

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hermeticism is intriguing if you're into other sides of the occult at all

it can have a bad reputation because of some people's feelings about the order of the golden dawn, but there's an older side to it and the basics illustrated in books like the kyballion are easily accessible occult principles laid out in very simplistic terms

it forms a good base for a lot of other ****

posted February 20, 2019 09:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i'm 32 my pluto is in scorpio, i imagine hers probably is too

it's a little tactless to say things like that when someone is going through a separation so i get that

sometimes people rub other people in a way where they can't keep their mouths shut no matter what the other person is actually doing (this thread illustrates that perfectly look at the way childofvenus reacts to me lol) is what it is

usually is better to control yourself, but **** happens sometimes what can you do? we're not all monks or some **** masters of self control lol

i'm assuming she must be mars in cancer or something to be getting this worked up or her hook up went well

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Just checked, Pluto will be at approx 1 degree Scorpio. I think she was born in '84 which would make her 35.

I wonder if out of sign squares can affect someone in that same way. Cuz if yes it squares my Mercury.

posted February 20, 2019 09:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
hermeticism is intriguing if you're into other sides of the occult at all

it can have a bad reputation because of some people's feelings about the order of the golden dawn, but there's an older side to it and the basics illustrated in books like the kyballion are easily accessible occult principles laid out in very simplistic terms

it forms a good base for a lot of other ****

maybe you won't ever love her, but you're definitely not indifferent lol

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I only heard of it, like don't know the terms you used and stuff. Was gonna check it out so thanks.

posted February 20, 2019 09:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Just checked, Pluto will be at approx 1 degree Scorpio. I think she was born in '84 which would make her 35.

I wonder if out of sign squares can affect someone in that same way. Cuz if yes it squares my Mercury.

And if yes it triggers my Mercury/Mars square which would explain it. And I can't help but feel good when making her feel like trash lol. I would guess that is equivalent to passionate role playing lol too bad I'm not attracted to her.

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probably slightly different, but still have some effect her aspects will add to that

i have a mars-pluto square with a good friend of mine, we've never actually fought but i don't know if that's because his venus/pluto conjunction is right on my ascendant/venus so it might change the dynamic a bit

we have all these red flags in our synastry though and so far so good

that is pretty unfortunate, i imagine the hate **** would be a good time all things considered lol

i'm trying to think of anyone i've had actual hate for or any strong feelings towards that i wasn't close to and i'm coming up with nothing at this point

usually if i use the word hate i'm just being dramatic, i guess i hate my fiancee's mother

but idk it's weird i can see things about her i do like and i wish i could love her as a person, but her behavior towards my fiancee and my fiancee's siblings has just been so awful that i can't nevermind the way she is towards me i can let that **** slide

i wouldn't hit that though lol but i'm pretty sure she'd hit this because she's groped me and done weird **** like called me into a room for help with something and then been taking her shirt off and other awkward terrible **** like that

posted February 20, 2019 09:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
I only heard of it, like don't know the terms you used and stuff. Was gonna check it out so thanks.

And you're right I'm not indifferent to her, she's a fallout lol.

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yeah i'd go with the kyballion, it's a good general introduction even if hermeticism isn't what you're ultimately interested in because it outlines a lot of the most basic principles other things all touch on (i really enjoy seeing where different schools of thought line up and essentially say the same things)

one of the better books i've gone through

i don't at all recommend the corpus hermiticum unless you're insanely patient and willing to put up with reading a lot of unnecessary things to get a small amount of information that's worth thinking over

that one's a quick read, but it's still too long to be worth it

i'm one of those people who will read all different books on the subject whether or not i think they're terrible just for one line that i find worthwhile though

like there's this book on esoteric astrology by a guy alan leo or some **** like that and i thought most of it was pointless but i really liked the way he described uranus from an esoteric standpoint as being a planet representative of will

posted February 20, 2019 09:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
probably slightly different, but still have some effect her aspects will add to that

i have a mars-pluto square with a good friend of mine, we've never actually fought but i don't know if that's because his venus/pluto conjunction is right on my ascendant/venus so it might change the dynamic a bit

we have all these red flags in our synastry though and so far so good

that is pretty unfortunate, i imagine the hate **** would be a good time all things considered lol

i'm trying to think of anyone i've had actual hate for or any strong feelings towards that i wasn't close to and i'm coming up with nothing at this point

usually if i use the word hate i'm just being dramatic, i guess i hate my fiancee's mother

but idk it's weird i can see things about her i do like and i wish i could love her as a person, but her behavior towards my fiancee and my fiancee's siblings has just been so awful that i can't nevermind the way she is towards me i can let that **** slide

i wouldn't hit that though lol but i'm pretty sure she'd hit this because she's groped me and done weird **** like called me into a room for help with something and then been taking her shirt off and other awkward terrible **** like that

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Lmfao you gave her enough time to unbutton her shirt. Ain't judgin lol (kidding didn't mean anything with that)

posted February 20, 2019 09:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
yeah i'd go with the kyballion, it's a good general introduction even if hermeticism isn't what you're ultimately interested in because it outlines a lot of the most basic principles other things all touch on (i really enjoy seeing where different schools of thought line up and essentially say the same things)

one of the better books i've gone through

i don't at all recommend the corpus hermiticum unless you're insanely patient and willing to put up with reading a lot of unnecessary things to get a small amount of information that's worth thinking over

that one's a quick read, but it's still too long to be worth it

i'm one of those people who will read all different books on the subject whether or not i think they're terrible just for one line that i find worthwhile though

like there's this book on esoteric astrology by a guy alan leo or some **** like that and i thought most of it was pointless but i really liked the way he described uranus from an esoteric standpoint as being a planet representative of will

because it works well but is a word i wouldn't have thought to go for, still it was about 300 pages for a single line i really liked lol

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Thanks so much. I actually love these sort subjects. I'll check it out.

Interesting when I normally go about purchasing a book I read through a large portion of the reviews to make sure it's 'worth the read'. I should probably adapt your approach though. Cuz it's true ultimately everyone has a different spin on things.

posted February 20, 2019 10:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Lmfao you gave her enough time to unbutton her shirt. Ain't judgin lol (kidding didn't mean anything with that)

But yeah I get it. Those we like as a default, shortcomings wouldn't really affect. Alright maybe 'wouldn't' is a bit of a strong term, but you get it. And vice versa.

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lol i actually legit tend to freeze up in situations like that, due to childhood **** but yeah

there was a chick at my last job who used to grope me constantly and tell me how bad she wanted to **** me, and i'd just make jokes about it and not really know how to deal with it ultimately

that sort of thing instantly puts me in a weird place

i know you were kidding btw though no offense taken or anything lol

to bring the subject back full circle to mars in cancer, that guy i used to hook up with i actually sometimes wasn't even feeling it and i'd just be like "yeah ok" because i'd be shitfaced and he would be really forward

idk if it's a mars in cancer thing or what but he was the type who would only make a move if i was really wasted

do this thing where we'd be drinking and smoking weed together but he'd be significantly more sober and then make a move, but never once while i was sober or more sober than him

he had a mars-neptune opposition though that might've done it

i've noticed mars in cancer can be fairly forward though when it comes to sex, that friend i have with it she's made it no secret that she's wanted to mess around (never actually have) even though i don't often see people mention it

posted February 20, 2019 10:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Thanks so much. I actually love these sort subjects. I'll check it out.

Interesting when I normally go about purchasing a book I read through a large portion of the reviews to make sure it's 'worth the read'. I should probably adapt your approach though. Cuz it's true ultimately everyone has a different spin on things.

Talking about esoteric astrology... I also have this one book talking about astrology from a kabbalistic standpoint. There's a lot of stuff on there that isn't mentioned anywhere else, at least not what I found. It's a transcribed book of a speech someone gave. Good stuff. Gotta check the title if you're interested.

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i'd love to know, always looking for things to read to add to the list of things i haven't gotten around to reading yet (i have books on my laptop, books on my phone, books on my kindle, and physical copies of other books too) i tend to binge read when i do and then i'll get through a few books in a short period of time and then stop again for a while

if you're interesting in kabbalistic standpoints then you'll definitely find the golden dawn side of hermeticism interesting since it actually blends the two in a lot of ways

if you're into divination and tarot at all the golden dawn system really ties a lot of kabbalistic teachings and meanings to each card (goes through the major arcana and its vibrations on the tree of life etc and so on) so you might find that interesting

posted February 20, 2019 10:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
lol i actually legit tend to freeze up in situations like that, due to childhood **** but yeah

there was a chick at my last job who used to grope me constantly and tell me how bad she wanted to **** me, and i'd just make jokes about it and not really know how to deal with it ultimately

that sort of thing instantly puts me in a weird place

i know you were kidding btw though no offense taken or anything lol

to bring the subject back full circle to mars in cancer, that guy i used to hook up with i actually sometimes wasn't even feeling it and i'd just be like "yeah ok" because i'd be shitfaced and he would be really forward

idk if it's a mars in cancer thing or what but he was the type who would only make a move if i was really wasted

do this thing where we'd be drinking and smoking weed together but he'd be significantly more sober and then make a move, but never once while i was sober or more sober than him

he had a mars-neptune opposition though that might've done it

i've noticed mars in cancer can be fairly forward though when it comes to sex, that friend i have with it she's made it no secret that she's wanted to mess around (never actually have) even though i don't often see people mention it

it's not a very passive placement

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Aww lol that's pretty cute haha. I have a fetish for guys (or girls for that matter) that are just lost lol. Not insinuating anything here though lol 'just sayin'. Actually that might be the Mars Neptune opposition you were mentioning which I have myself. And I guess that's the 'lost' part which I'd think drunkenness borders. Although I don't think I necessarily only approached guys while they were drunk. More so when I was drunk cuz of my thinking ability or lack thereof. And then I'm full on no shame whatsoever. Actually that's probably the only time I do that, I'm too shy otherwise. Unless we of course got something going on.

posted February 20, 2019 10:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i'd love to know, always looking for things to read to add to the list of things i haven't gotten around to reading yet (i have books on my laptop, books on my phone, books on my kindle, and physical copies of other books too) i tend to binge read when i do and then i'll get through a few books in a short period of time and then stop again for a while

if you're interesting in kabbalistic standpoints then you'll definitely find the golden dawn side of hermeticism interesting since it actually blends the two in a lot of ways

if you're into divination and tarot at all the golden dawn system really ties a lot of kabbalistic teachings and meanings to each card (goes through the major arcana and its vibrations on the tree of life etc and so on) so you might find that interesting

i just sift through everything that comes my way because there's nearly always something of value in a book if only to see where it lines up with other points of view

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Here's the link... Jewish Astrology, a Cosmic Science: Torah, Talmud and Zohar Works on Spiritual Astrology https://www.amazon.com/dp/1684110637/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_nrxBCbEAPJ2B7

I forgot about the fact that there are many Hebrew words in there (I'm Jewish BTW). So it might not be interesting for you after all. Unless maybe you don't mind googling stuff along the way.

posted February 20, 2019 12:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Aww lol that's pretty cute haha. I have a fetish for guys (or girls for that matter) that are just lost lol. Not insinuating anything here though lol 'just sayin'. Actually that might be the Mars Neptune opposition you were mentioning which I have myself. And I guess that's the 'lost' part which I'd think drunkenness borders. Although I don't think I necessarily only approached guys while they were drunk. More so when I was drunk cuz of my thinking ability or lack thereof. And then I'm full on no shame whatsoever. Actually that's probably the only time I do that, I'm too shy otherwise. Unless we of course got something going on.

And oh I make sure that person feels it. It's the tease, I'm all about it lol. Otherwise it's no fun.

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i'm retarded with it lol it takes me a long time to figure out things like that sometimes even when someone is forward

i drove my fiancee crazy for 4 years before we got together because even being unable to keep our hands off each other didn't entirely sink in for me that she wanted something more serious

most of the sex i've had with other people hasn't been sober (my fiancee is actually the exception there she's the only person i've ever had sober sex with) i have that loose mars/neptune conjunction myself so i get that

btw i knew i had seen childofvenus' chart at some point, and i had in this thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/240513.html

you actually were dead on with the mars ****

my mars in conjunct her neptune and in turn squares her mercury/jupiter conjunction (her having mercury-neptune square makes a lot of sense now) impressive nailing that part of our synastry

thanks for the link too, i'm cool with looking things up as i go

always helpful to learn new things and words, opens more doors with what i can learn from there and i have a tendency to do that anyway when i'm reading

something will catch my attention and then i'm sidetracked reading everything i can find about it while also reading whatever book put it in my head

posted February 20, 2019 12:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i'm retarded with it lol it takes me a long time to figure out things like that sometimes even when someone is forward

i drove my fiancee crazy for 4 years before we got together because even being unable to keep our hands off each other didn't entirely sink in for me that she wanted something more serious

most of the sex i've had with other people hasn't been sober (my fiancee is actually the exception there she's the only person i've ever had sober sex with) i have that loose mars/neptune conjunction myself so i get that

btw i knew i had seen childofvenus' chart at some point, and i had in this thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/240513.html

you actually were dead on with the mars ****

my mars in conjunct her neptune and in turn squares her mercury/jupiter conjunction (her having mercury-neptune square makes a lot of sense now) impressive nailing that part of our synastry

thanks for the link too, i'm cool with looking things up as i go

always helpful to learn new things and words, opens more doors with what i can learn from there and i have a tendency to do that anyway when i'm reading

something will catch my attention and then i'm sidetracked reading everything i can find about it while also reading whatever book put it in my head

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Lol honestly the harder it is the greater kick out of it I get. (it's that intense lol you should probably stop talking about these stuff to me lmao)

I was gonna say I'm surprised with your Capricorn placement cuz I would assume they tend to have an all figured out approach, but you're saying it loosely conjuncts Neptune so it would explain things.

Actually I think all those people I ended up having sex with started out with me drunk, or tipsy at least. (once on weed, an epic experience lol God have mercy 🤣🤣

Darn that's cool. I knew I must be right though. Cuz the Neptune I felt pretty prominently to her Mercury (sorry if I'm offending you ChildOfVenus if you're reading this but I think it was a subjective perception that you created. But I'm not taking sides here, perhaps it was in fact a buildup or something) and it must've been Mars being triggered too cuz otherwise she wouldn't lose herself like that, like go haywire which if you think about 'haywire' it's very Mars/Neptune'ish. Again not taking sides, just talking synastry and the planets being triggered. So yeah but thanks for confirming it, feels pretty cool. I'm usually pretty good at picking up on such though. I think at least. Well this time for sure lol.

posted February 20, 2019 01:11 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
It's funny how I'm being the one called [b]crazy yet I'm still being discussed and I'm not even commenting. Isn't this thread titled Mars in Cancer? Move on already I know people love me but jeez.[/B]

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posted February 20, 2019 01:12 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I know people love me but jeez.

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posted February 20, 2019 01:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Lol honestly the harder it is the greater kick out of it I get. (it's that intense lol you should probably stop talking about these stuff to me lmao)

I was gonna say I'm surprised with your Capricorn placement cuz I would assume they tend to have an all figured out approach, but you're saying it loosely conjuncts Neptune so it would explain things.

Actually I think all those people I ended up having sex with started out with me drunk, or tipsy at least. (once on weed, an epic experience lol God have mercy 🤣🤣

Darn that's cool. I knew I must be right though. Cuz the Neptune I felt pretty prominently to her Mercury (sorry if I'm offending you ChildOfVenus if you're reading this but I think it was a subjective perception that you created. But I'm not taking sides here, perhaps it was in fact a buildup or something) and it must've been Mars being triggered too cuz otherwise she wouldn't lose herself like that, like go haywire which if you think about 'haywire' it's very Mars/Neptune'ish. Again not taking sides, just talking synastry and the planets being triggered. So yeah but thanks for confirming it, feels pretty cool. I'm usually pretty good at picking up on such though. I think at least. Well this time for sure lol.

I'm that way too with reading stuff. Like being sidetracked with different sorts of information. In my case it would be my Gemini placements though. (If I remember well you have several Uranus contacts which would probably contribute to it)

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i think i just legit drove her crazy with it we still laugh about how stupid i was and it's been years at this point

yeah drugs and sex are a big thing for me and while my fiancee and i have sober sex there's usually a spiritual element to it through tantric sex and so

my favorite drugs for sex have been pcp and lsd by far but with mars in cancer guy it was always just weed and alcohol getting crossfaded

yeah you made me curious about the synastry, i always like to see if people who study this are able to guess things like that right

i'm actually not sure if i trigger her mars i didn't think to check, but my mars triggers her mercury and then also hits neptune so i found that interesting

i get overly excited when other people are able to see synastry or natal aspects lol it's almost as good as when i manage it myself

for me it's defnitely uranus that does it with my attention being spread out everywhere

with mars in cancer guy my mars was on his neptune and sun so i think that probably added to that

he had too many hang ups about his sexuality though so he ran hot and cold

i don't know if that's a mars in cancer thing or had to do with the oppositions, but it definitely aided in that all going to hell

i have this tendency to attract guys who are "straight" but curious or bi but deeply repressed about it, and it's always a mistake but they tend to feel like they're going to work that out through me like i'm sort of stepping stone into dealing with their own ****