posted February 20, 2019 01:37 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
It's funny how I'm being the one called [b]crazy yet I'm still being discussed and I'm not even commenting. Isn't this thread titled Mars in Cancer? Move on already I know people love me but jeez.[/B]

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i was commenting on brenda's ability as an astrologer to read a conversation and pick up on synastry and aspects

i found it really impressive and i thought it was cool

she made me curious to see if she was right

it honestly didn't have much to do with you as a person on any personal level it's just that you happened to be the person i was talking to

if she said that about anyone else i would've been equally interested and felt the need to compliment her

there's that mercury-neptune square in action i guess

no one called you crazy during that particular exchange btw, you must have some real hang ups about your sanity

posted February 20, 2019 02:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i think i just legit drove her crazy with it we still laugh about how stupid i was and it's been years at this point

yeah drugs and sex are a big thing for me and while my fiancee and i have sober sex there's usually a spiritual element to it through tantric sex and so

my favorite drugs for sex have been pcp and lsd by far but with mars in cancer guy it was always just weed and alcohol getting crossfaded

yeah you made me curious about the synastry, i always like to see if people who study this are able to guess things like that right

i'm actually not sure if i trigger her mars i didn't think to check, but my mars triggers her mercury and then also hits neptune so i found that interesting

i get overly excited when other people are able to see synastry or natal aspects lol it's almost as good as when i manage it myself

for me it's defnitely uranus that does it with my attention being spread out everywhere

with mars in cancer guy my mars was on his neptune and sun so i think that probably added to that

he had too many hang ups about his sexuality though so he ran hot and cold

i don't know if that's a mars in cancer thing or had to do with the oppositions, but it definitely aided in that all going to hell

i have this tendency to attract guys who are "straight" but curious or bi but deeply repressed about it, and it's always a mistake but they tend to feel like they're going to work that out through me like i'm sort of stepping stone into dealing with their own ****

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I realized only after that you were referring to your Mars, I adjusted that sentence before you responded I think.

I don't tend to run hot and cold, unless I feel that you're using me for sex. Like if I don't feel any connection and that person still wants to hang out with me, dunno it concerns me like we're not even having fun. I'm not your b*t*h 😆 you know.

posted February 20, 2019 02:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i was commenting on brenda's ability as an astrologer to read a conversation and pick up on synastry and aspects

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posted February 20, 2019 02:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Lol the term astrologer doesn't sound too bad although I wouldn't give myself that title yet. Although it would probably fit the technical description.

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works with the technical one, and you picked up on synastry so good enough for me

i've used various substances for a good chunk of my life, and i'm usually comfortable with new things as long as i'm in a good environment for it or am around people i'm cool with

i'm at a place where i would mostly limit myself to psychedelics or non addictive/less potentially harmful things infrequently but i have a pretty good grasp on my limits with them

my one experience that could've been really terrible was that pcp black out because i was gone, in some sort of void-meditation like land and my body was still functioning and when i snapped out of it i was in the middle having sex

it was with my fiancee so it was fine, but the idea of it always stuck with me

vodka and edibles can easily lead to some bad decisions though lol that's pretty funny though at least the sex was good

are you a cancer mars then? i can usually only pick them out during an argument though water in your chart wouldn't surprise me (i haven't seen it i don't think) because you can seem sensitive to me and seem more emotional than i am or emotional in a different way rather

with gay guys i always get way older ones and/or ones who are immediately talking about me moving in and taking care of me etc and they start offering money and it's awkward and not an option for obvious reasons (my fiancee)

with straight guys i know it's how i look yeah, i'm skinny, short, and androgynous (i've been called every male/female/unisex synonym for attractive at one point or another) with long hair and those things generally make curious guys comfortable

so i can get straight/bi/gay guys and straight and bi women easy enough just no lesbians they hate me

i'm not sure what it is i do, but all the lesbians i meet always hate me i've never even hit on one (i've never made the first move at all) i just seem to **** them off

anyway i thought maybe the cancer mars might explain a bit of the back and forth since the cancer mars friend i have seems to be like this with me too and she's very forward sometimes and then other times she's picking fights with me with no real in between

posted February 20, 2019 03:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
are you sure he actually likes it and isn't just letting you do it?

i have mars in capricorn when i have an injury and say it will heal by itself i mean "i'll take care of it, leave me alone, it will heal" if someone was being insistent i might humor them on some level (if i didnt get annoyed) but it wouldn't be because i wanted to be babied

i dislocated a finger and sliced it open at the knuckle back in october, didn't feel like going to the hospital so i wrapped it up let it bleed on/off for 3 days and pulled it back into place when the swelling was down enough for me to do it

when i got a sprain earlier this month i took care of it myself

when i get bad burns or something and i leave it alone it's because they'll heal and there's no sense in fussing over it

if i'm feeling sick i want to be left alone about it, unless it's physically impossible for me to do something i'd rather do it myself

i don't want to be bothered or have someone hover over me touching anything, but if theyre pushy it's either let them or fight about it

and it's sort of ****** to ***** about someone trying to be nice unless theyre making things worse

just curious because nothing you say indicates enjoyment

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Do you have any water sign as a personal planet?

I have water venus, my husband has water mercury and mars, I think even a small gesture of genuine care/kindness will touch the feeling of water sign personal planet. Yes, he appreciates what I am doing to him although he doesn't say anything but I can tell from how he treats me after I take care of him, like, he hugs me from behind or he acts like a kitty, obviously I can see there's a different reaction than usual.

My husband has Moon in Capricorn, although he always seems like "I can handle it", his Cancer Mars is screaming for Mother's love.

I have Saturn conjunct ASC, Aqua sun, Aries moon trine Saturn, and mercury sextile Saturn. I don't just jump in taking care of other people, and of course won't in a smothering way. I am not that worrisome or put too much attention to other people. I let people having their own business but it doesn't mean I don't care if they need help.

If he is sick, what I mean is, he REALLY is sick where he just can lay his body on the bed. If he still can do his own activities, I won't insisted to take care of him, only checking him out then leave him with his things.

With the injuries, my husband has a tendency to let it heal by itself by not treating it the way it's supposed to be treated which can make everything looks gross or worse, and it takes longer to heal. I help him to make it easier for both of us.

My husband has Mercury in Cancer too, I want to reduce his whiny tendency so it doesn't trigger my Moon reaction. I honestly can't stand hearing whiny people everyday, but I realize it is his nature, so what I can do is just trying to make him less whiny.

I don't know much about Capricorn mars, but I think the way you describe how you handle it, then it's true your opposite is Cancer mars.

I don't have good experience too with Mars in Cancer. My Mom has it and I don't have that nice relationship with her, maybe because of her Aries moon making a square to her Cancer mars, she is easily angry and easily getting offended. Frustrating to deal with especially once you are in the position of her opponents. I always feel like I want to stay away far far far far away from her, like, bye, I'm gone, puff!

posted February 20, 2019 04:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
works with the technical one, and you picked up on synastry so good enough for me

i've used various substances for a good chunk of my life, and i'm usually comfortable with new things as long as i'm in a good environment for it or am around people i'm cool with

i'm at a place where i would mostly limit myself to psychedelics or non addictive/less potentially harmful things infrequently but i have a pretty good grasp on my limits with them

my one experience that could've been really terrible was that pcp black out because i was gone, in some sort of void-meditation like land and my body was still functioning and when i snapped out of it i was in the middle having sex

it was with my fiancee so it was fine, but the idea of it always stuck with me

vodka and edibles can easily lead to some bad decisions though lol that's pretty funny though at least the sex was good

are you a cancer mars then? i can usually only pick them out during an argument though water in your chart wouldn't surprise me (i haven't seen it i don't think) because you can seem sensitive to me and seem more emotional than i am or emotional in a different way rather

with gay guys i always get way older ones and/or ones who are immediately talking about me moving in and taking care of me etc and they start offering money and it's awkward and not an option for obvious reasons (my fiancee)

with straight guys i know it's how i look yeah, i'm skinny, short, and androgynous (i've been called every male/female/unisex synonym for attractive at one point or another) with long hair and those things generally make curious guys comfortable

so i can get straight/bi/gay guys and straight and bi women easy enough just no lesbians they hate me

i'm not sure what it is i do, but all the lesbians i meet always hate me i've never even hit on one (i've never made the first move at all) i just seem to **** them off

anyway i thought maybe the cancer mars might explain a bit of the back and forth since the cancer mars friend i have seems to be like this with me too and she's very forward sometimes and then other times she's picking fights with me with no real in between

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It's true, around the right people I probably wouldn't have an issue with it. I don't think anyone is right though as far as guys are concerned. Such girls are their prey and don't try to deny it lol. Alright maybe you wouldn't do the move but most guys would.

And it's true my Venus and Mars are in Cancer. I feel that my talking style is very much Cancer-like even though my Mercury is in Aries. My Mars square comes through really strong. It's funny though and I know it doesn't sound like it, but I'm really not emotional at all. But I understand why someone would think so. My Mercury is pretty strong in my chart, being my chart ruler and sextiling my AC and MC which means trine my DC and IC. So although I'm really not a talker in real life which you may be surprised by too lol I really do not talk much at all, people would instantly feel the Mercury/ Mars first. And the Jupiter to my moon just makes it sound more upbeat lol. Which could be interpreted as the excited whatever, excitement is an emotion and it can definitely come through that way.

And you don't sound emotional at all so me being more emotional than you is like 1 being greater than 0 lol.

The long hair dang I will try to not react.

Actually I can tell you now why lesbians hate you, don't think it's too difficult your language is probably too blunt lol probably doesn't vibe with their (probable) feministic views. I was like that too with the feminism (not anymore) I'd probably hate you too. It's when guys tend to come off as the 'better sh**' if you know what I mean. Guaranteed it's your Leo mercury placement, you're probably too cocky for them. Although if I'm wrong tell me.

posted February 20, 2019 05:27 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Do you have any water sign as a personal planet?

I have water venus, my husband has water mercury and mars, I think even a small gesture of genuine care/kindness will touch the feeling of water sign personal planet. Yes, he appreciates what I am doing to him although he doesn't say anything but I can tell from how he treats me after I take care of him, like, he hugs me from behind or he acts like a kitty, obviously I can see there's a different reaction than usual.

My husband has Moon in Capricorn, although he always seems like "I can handle it", his Cancer Mars is screaming for Mother's love.

I have Saturn conjunct ASC, Aqua sun, Aries moon trine Saturn, and mercury sextile Saturn. I don't just jump in taking care of other people, and of course won't in a smothering way. I am not that worrisome or put too much attention to other people. I let people having their own business but it doesn't mean I don't care if they need help.

If he is sick, what I mean is, he REALLY is sick where he just can lay his body on the bed. If he still can do his own activities, I won't insisted to take care of him, only checking him out then leave him with his things.

With the injuries, my husband has a tendency to let it heal by itself by not treating it the way it's supposed to be treated which can make everything looks gross or worse, and it takes longer to heal. I help him to make it easier for both of us.

My husband has Mercury in Cancer too, I want to reduce his whiny tendency so it doesn't trigger my Moon reaction. I honestly can't stand hearing whiny people everyday, but I realize it is his nature, so what I can do is just trying to make him less whiny.

I don't know much about Capricorn mars, but I think the way you describe how you handle it, then it's true your opposite is Cancer mars.

I don't have good experience too with Mars in Cancer. My Mom has it and I don't have that nice relationship with her, maybe because of her Aries moon making a square to her Cancer mars, she is easily angry and easily getting offended. Frustrating to deal with especially once you are in the position of her opponents. I always feel like I want to stay away far far far far away from her, like, bye, I'm gone, puff!

My relationship with my husband is also not that smooth. I think we have karmic relationship. I am still living separately from him altho' he keeps asking me to come back, but he hurts me too too much, so I'm still not sure if I want to come back or not.

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no i don't, my only water placement is jupiter in pisces (my chart is on page 4 i think, posted it for brenda to test her synastry guessing skills)

my fiancee has venus and mercury in scorpio and and mars in pisces conjunct jupiter, so i get what you mean about appreciation of that sort of thing

she likes that i'll read to her when she's not feeling good and give her massages etc and will sometimes thank me for things i dont really think about it's interesting that you say he's not normally physically affectionate because i am to an extreme

i would rather take care of myself, but i'll take care of other people no issue i'm cool with that

not necessarily hovering, but i pay attention and do **** for them

i'm more comfortable with that than the reverse

if it's me i'll legit crawl to do something before i ask for help

i can be neglectful of my own injuries to an extent, i'll take care of it enough

my mother is a cancer mars aries moon too (too far apart for a square though) and we generally get along well i think she can be weak with things sometimes and then take her aggression out in ways that i find pointless but i'd say that it made her more like a friend than a parent

i could see how with a moon-mars square in the mix that's rough though (i have a moon-mars square myself cap-aries but it's more contained and im hard to set off)

i feel you on the ups and downs of a karmic relationship, my fiancee and i definitely have that sort of connection and it does come with a lot of ups and downs though in our case a lot of it has been more pushing each other through a lot of really miserable obstacles in life

when her and i argue though it tends to be bad for a bit and then a couple hours later we're cool again, though part of her holds onto things and can go to dark places i don't

i think for me with my squares and oppositions it might be a little different but only people i love deeply seem to be able to really hurt me so when i push away sometimes it's me being a dick rather than legit self preservation

i guess you have to decide though if what you're doing right now is self preservation for the better or if it's for the worse and causing you more harm in the long run

deep relationships can often be sortof terrifying can't they? you seem to know that well

i hope whatever you choose is what's right for you, sometimes meditating with the mindset of finding clarity can really help

posted February 20, 2019 05:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
It's true, around the right people I probably wouldn't have an issue with it. I don't think anyone is right though as far as guys are concerned. Such girls are their prey and don't try to deny it lol. Alright maybe you wouldn't do the move but most guys would.

And it's true my Venus and Mars are in Cancer. I feel that my talking style is very much Cancer-like even though my Mercury is in Aries. My Mars square comes through really strong. It's funny though and I know it doesn't sound like it, but I'm really not emotional at all. But I understand why someone would think so. My Mercury is pretty strong in my chart, being my chart ruler and sextiling my AC and MC which means trine my DC and IC. So although I'm really not a talker in real life which you may be surprised by too lol I really do not talk much at all, people would instantly feel the Mercury/ Mars first. And the Jupiter to my moon just makes it sound more upbeat lol. Which could be interpreted as the excited whatever, excitement is an emotion and it can definitely come through that way.

And you don't sound emotional at all so me being more emotional than you is like 1 being greater than 0 lol.

The long hair dang I will try to not react.

Actually I can tell you now why lesbians hate you, don't think it's too difficult your language is probably too blunt lol probably doesn't vibe with their (probable) feministic views. I was like that too with the feminism (not anymore) I'd probably hate you too. It's when guys tend to come off as the 'better sh**' if you know what I mean. Guaranteed it's your Leo mercury placement, you're probably too cocky for them. Although if I'm wrong tell me.

Lol I wonder if I come off that way too, like the no I'm between part, either friends or completely not. I wouldn't be surprised though. I feel that I do act that way a lot. Can't help it lol sorry the more I try the more unbalanced it is.

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i don't even really care for having sex with my fiancee if i'm significantly more sober than she is tbh and she's told me i could **** her while she's passed out if i wanted to lol if we're equally wasted though it's different

i'm capable of self control

i talk more online than i do in person in many cases depending on company

i can be extremely quiet so i get you lol and i believe you, you do project as sensitive to me but maybe you're right and it's my own lack there that makes you seem extra to me

my fiancee's told me my feelings can seem like they lack much depth to her and then talks about me having a robot mode (i can be completely cold and people can straight up be dead to me) i have them and can feel them deeply but i have a certain lack of attachment to them at the same time

she mostly feels that way about my negative feelings

me being angry is just "you'll tire yourself out i'll wait" me being sad is "you'll tire yourself out i'll wait" etc and so on with her lol i'm mostly neutral and apathetic

not when it comes to love though that's different for me

my fiancee's said that to me too about the way i speak and lesbians but i don't really get it, seems stupid and like theyre just overly bitchy lol my fiancee can be like that sometimes but not to an extreme but every once in a while i'm talking and she'll tell me i'm an ******* and say something about men so i guess you're right

i just have a level of blindness to it

posted February 21, 2019 04:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i don't even really care for having sex with my fiancee if i'm significantly more sober than she is tbh and she's told me i could **** her while she's passed out if i wanted to lol if we're equally wasted though it's different

i'm capable of self control

i talk more online than i do in person in many cases depending on company

i can be extremely quiet so i get you lol and i believe you, you do project as sensitive to me but maybe you're right and it's my own lack there that makes you seem extra to me

my fiancee's told me my feelings can seem like they lack much depth to her and then talks about me having a robot mode (i can be completely cold and people can straight up be dead to me) i have them and can feel them deeply but i have a certain lack of attachment to them at the same time

she mostly feels that way about my negative feelings

me being angry is just "you'll tire yourself out i'll wait" me being sad is "you'll tire yourself out i'll wait" etc and so on with her lol i'm mostly neutral and apathetic

not when it comes to love though that's different for me

my fiancee's said that to me too about the way i speak and lesbians but i don't really get it, seems stupid and like theyre just overly bitchy lol my fiancee can be like that sometimes but not to an extreme but every once in a while i'm talking and she'll tell me i'm an ******* and say something about men so i guess you're right

i just have a level of blindness to it

i'll have to get to know you better to be able to tell you that

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You're water void you said, right? So yeah I'm not surprised, I think your Leo part is super prominent. I mean I don't know you much, but I'm feeling Leo strongly. But I think it's very different from a Leo moon as an example. Like you don't seem cocky to your core lol but rather like you don't give two damns. A Leo moon is very different in that sense. They'll try to make you believe that they don't care, but it's just too obvious. You can sense an underlying insecurity. (Referring to my ex here lol, the cockier he was the more power to me haha)

I think in my case the water just messes with everything. It could be considered a good thing I guess cuz it's easy to make people believe I care. I mean I'm a Gemini moon it can't go too deep. Although I don't usually lie if I tell someone I care, it has a certain buoyant quality to it though. I'm really cool to my core. Although one thing depression is an easy thing to kick in for me. That must be my moon being in my twelfth. I think that's the only time I feel really emotional. Or rather depressed lol. My mood changes too quickly though. And one thing I'm still trying to figure out is which 'mood' I'm most a fan of. That opinion keeps on changing too lol.

posted February 21, 2019 07:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
You're water void you said, right? So yeah I'm not surprised, I think your Leo part is super prominent. I mean I don't know you much, but I'm feeling Leo strongly. But I think it's very different from a Leo moon as an example. Like you don't seem cocky to your core lol but rather like you don't give two damns. A Leo moon is very different in that sense. They'll try to make you believe that they don't care, but it's just too obvious. You can sense an underlying insecurity. (Referring to my ex here lol, the cockier he was the more power to me haha)

I think in my case the water just messes with everything. It could be considered a good thing I guess cuz it's easy to make people believe I care. I mean I'm a Gemini moon it can't go too deep. Although I don't usually lie if I tell someone I care, it has a certain buoyant quality to it though. I'm really cool to my core. Although one thing depression is an easy thing to kick in for me. That must be my moon being in my twelfth. I think that's the only time I feel really emotional. Or rather depressed lol. My mood changes too quickly though. And one thing I'm still trying to figure out is which 'mood' I'm most a fan of. That opinion keeps on changing too lol.

And the bitchiness (not only in lesbians) is a really deep insecurity issue. Sometimes if you're gentle you'll see a different side come out of them. I'm pretty good with that lol so maybe it's just me. But I'm good at taming bitchiness. (I think I brag a lot though)

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i'm a water void yeah, and you're right i don't care what people think if someone doesn't like me then i instantly just feel apathetic towards them and everything they think has no value lol i know what you mean about the difference between a leo moon and a leo mercury because my younger brother has a leo moon (he's also a water void, my older sag moon brother is a water and earth void... everyone in my immediate family is void of something my father lacks air, my mother lacks earth and i've ended up in a ltr with an earth void) and he definitely needs attention and validation from other people even when he attempts to act like he doesn't it's very obvious

i imagine with venus and mars being in cancer for you it has more to do with attraction and comes out more in relationships and what you like as far as that goes

my mother is very scorpio heavy and that's always been more prominant with her than anything else in her chart (scorpio mercury, venus, ascendant) so her cancer mars mostly takes a backseat to that along with everything else in her chart

i generally like air moons as far as conversation goes but i've never gotten extremely close to one

then again i'm not one for getting very close to most people

i just make the bitchiness worse with every word i say and then i sortof end up finding antagonizing them amusing so it ends up going downhill pretty quickly

posted February 21, 2019 02:59 PM            

And true, I feel like my Cancer energy really surfaces when it comes to people I'm romantically interested in.

posted February 21, 2019 03:07 PM            

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i guess you have to decide though if what you're doing right now is self preservation for the better or if it's for the worse and causing you more harm in the long run

deep relationships can often be sortof terrifying can't they? you seem to know that well

i hope whatever you choose is what's right for you, sometimes meditating with the mindset of finding clarity can really help

even small rituals where you put that mindset out there beforehand can do a lot

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I think it feels better when I take a time away from him. For me, the relationship is quite toxic, but he seems doesn't think the same.

At this moment, I don't expect anything, better or worse, I just let things flow between me and my husband. I am ready to whatever happen to our marriage. I just do not want to go back to unhealthy relationship. If he agrees with me to build healthy relationship, maybe I will give him another chance from a lot of chances I have given. But until now, he refuses to compromise, he wants me to give in (maybe that's the effect of our SUN/PLUTO synastry). He has HUGE EGO, bit controlling, and has a tendency to repeat mistakes that I try to avoid being dragged on into vicious circle.

It seems taking a lot of time being alone helping me so much to think more clearly and objective. Thank you for your consideration but I have difficulty with meditation as my mind can't stop talking. Reading something positive is one of my best medicine.

posted February 21, 2019 07:06 PM            

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It's interesting the fact that you're attracted to what's lacking... My chart is pretty balanced, but Pisces and Virgo are intercepted. I think Pisceans are the only ones that can fill that void for me lol. (I have nothing bad to say about you, honestly so far I'm not even feeling Virgo in you) but Virgos... maybe cuz it squares my moon and AC. Which is the case with Pisces too, but given that my Sun/Moon are in my twelfth I can relate to it better and it feels natural. I don't even know why I dislike it, my brother I love has his Mercury there. My other brother his moon. Actually many people I really like have this energy somewhere in their chart. But if I were to pick it apart I don't think I would I'm sure.

And true, I feel like my Cancer energy really surfaces when it comes to people I'm romantically interested in.

I really like air and fire moons. I think I can relate to those best. Earth moons I'm turned off by before even knowing them lol it's probably really narrow- minded of me, but I just can't help it. (Especially Taurus, their stubbornness is so deep their opinion wouldn't change even if their life is at steak. And although I'm stubborn due to my Taurus Sun, it doesn't go as deep, like I'll listen to your opinion. Actually Virgo Moons I don't mind really. Capricorn moons I'm definitely turned off just by the idea of. I remember I was infatuated with Mark Zuckerberg. Up until I learned he has a Cap Moon lol.)

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i think being with what i lack is balancing, since relationships are about balancing each other rather than just being the same as far as i'm concerned

if someone is too much like me and can't make up for what i lack in some way then as a couple we're missing something and there's a void within the partnership

it's one thing to be missing something on your own, it's another to be missing it in your interactions to

it admittedly can make things difficult at points because there can be difficulty understanding where the other person is coming from, but that's why the common points are important too and the willingness to try to find that middle ground

i get bored when someone is too much like me and not an individual anyway and i like strong personalities so they don't bend to me too much because i can definitely be overpowering and have a tendency to not do well if someone is particularly weak

i don't really seem to set off people's virgo radar, and i don't really relate well to the sign for the most part a lot of my chart drowns it out and no one ever guesses i am one when they're around me

i can get along with virgo suns, but i have a lot of trouble with virgo mercuries

they give me this really specific kind of migraine usually and i can nearly always pick them out

i feel like conversations with a lot of virgo mercuries tend to be them nitpicking everything to death and i feel like it takes 20 minutes worth of meaningless ******** semantics talk in order to have what should've been a 5 minute conversation and that **** gets old for me quick

so if i'm talking to someone and they start doing that and i feel that migraine coming on i'm just like "you're a virgo mercury aren't you?"

i'm not a huge fan of earth moons either generally, i can tend to find them a little boring unless other areas of their chart outweigh it any other element can be fine, but they just don't do it for me either they tend to be too robotic for me

i could tell you had water before this, but i wasn't sure which kind (other than it being unlikely it was scorpio)

it was the way you approached the subject of death in other threads there was just something about the way you phrased everything that seemed watery to me

i had a thing for a taurus sun once, we were friends and there was a lot of mutual flirting but he ultimately told me he couldn't handle the idea of me wanting things to be poly so it never went anywhere

he was so stubbornly stuck in his life it used to amaze me

he'd complain about everything that was wrong and then kept doing the same thing he did every day for years without any desire to actually change any aspect of it for better or worse because all change bothered him

but yeah i saw that bit of water when it came to that with you, to someone like me you seem sensitive lol

posted February 21, 2019 07:26 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
I think it feels better when I take a time away from him. For me, the relationship is quite toxic, but he seems doesn't think the same.

At this moment, I don't expect anything, better or worse, I just let things flow between me and my husband. I am ready to whatever happen to our marriage. I just do not want to go back to unhealthy relationship. If he agrees with me to build healthy relationship, maybe I will give him another chance from a lot of chances I have given. But until now, he refuses to compromise, he wants me to give in (maybe that's the effect of our SUN/PLUTO synastry). He has HUGE EGO, bit controlling, and has a tendency to repeat mistakes that I try to avoid being dragged on into vicious circle.

It seems taking a lot of time being alone helping me so much to think more clearly and objective. Thank you for your consideration but I have difficulty with meditation as my mind can't stop talking. Reading something positive is one of my best medicine.

Another thing I realize with Mars in Cancer is once they find that one special who breaks the chain, they don't repress themselve sexually no more. They are aggressive in bed and want to do it everyday, twice or more times a day, and then they won't ever let you go. hahahahha

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pluto creates some interesting ties, i have pluto/venus conjunct with my fiancee (she has natal venus/pluto) and pluto/mars sextile with her (my mars her pluto/venus) and big ups and downs and definitely points where we could be toxic for each other

at the same time though when her and i are on the same page or not ******* up with drugs (we've definitely dragged each other down when it came to mutual addiction) we can do a lot of really positive **** together it's a matter of learning to focus our energy in the right ways

the cycle **** definitely doesn't work forever, there's gotta be that point where you agree to mutually try to make something functional and positive and healthy

and it's good that you see it even if he doesn't because it will keep repeating unless you either destroy it to build something better out of the ashes or you destroy and just kill it completely

that's how pluto tends to go, and relationships can't just be one sided where you're the only one who sees things for what they are

i can be scattered too, that's actually why meditation is good it helps get rid of that

it's a skill, not something a lot of people are immediately good at most people try for a minute their mind wanders and they just give up and tell themselves they can't

but i imagine those same people wouldn't pick up a guitar and expect to be able to play a song immediately, that's a skill that there's a level of natural talent to but you can also just become techinically good and it's just a matter of practice and training yourself

i get not wanting to put the effort in necessarily, but i've definitely found it to be incredibly valuable and also the right kind of meditation can induce states that feel drugs so i'm a big fan of that lol

the thing with meditation too isn't that you're necessarily quieting your mind, it's also that you're not giving those passing thoughts weight you'll have them and you'll disregard and then you learn thoughts like feelings don't always need to be a thing

but it's ultimately about willingness to try so if you don't have it there's no point really

my experience as far as sex with mars in cancer went was that he was very sexual, which was a plus for me because i have a very high sex drive

my only issue was that he could alternate between being aggressive (though could've been moreso for me, but that's just a personal i like after sex bruises and such sort of thing and like hey great one or two is nice but why not five or six you know?) and just not at all which i found a little disappointing

worst sex i've ever had though has been with an aquarius mars, mars might be in debilitated in cancer but the sex was way better lol

posted February 21, 2019 09:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i think being with what i lack is balancing, since relationships are about balancing each other rather than just being the same as far as i'm concerned

if someone is too much like me and can't make up for what i lack in some way then as a couple we're missing something and there's a void within the partnership

it's one thing to be missing something on your own, it's another to be missing it in your interactions to

it admittedly can make things difficult at points because there can be difficulty understanding where the other person is coming from, but that's why the common points are important too and the willingness to try to find that middle ground

i get bored when someone is too much like me and not an individual anyway and i like strong personalities so they don't bend to me too much because i can definitely be overpowering and have a tendency to not do well if someone is particularly weak

i don't really seem to set off people's virgo radar, and i don't really relate well to the sign for the most part a lot of my chart drowns it out and no one ever guesses i am one when they're around me

i can get along with virgo suns, but i have a lot of trouble with virgo mercuries

they give me this really specific kind of migraine usually and i can nearly always pick them out

i feel like conversations with a lot of virgo mercuries tend to be them nitpicking everything to death and i feel like it takes 20 minutes worth of meaningless ******** semantics talk in order to have what should've been a 5 minute conversation and that **** gets old for me quick

so if i'm talking to someone and they start doing that and i feel that migraine coming on i'm just like "you're a virgo mercury aren't you?"

i'm not a huge fan of earth moons either generally, i can tend to find them a little boring unless other areas of their chart outweigh it any other element can be fine, but they just don't do it for me either they tend to be too robotic for me

i could tell you had water before this, but i wasn't sure which kind (other than it being unlikely it was scorpio)

it was the way you approached the subject of death in other threads there was just something about the way you phrased everything that seemed watery to me

i had a thing for a taurus sun once, we were friends and there was a lot of mutual flirting but he ultimately told me he couldn't handle the idea of me wanting things to be poly so it never went anywhere

he was so stubbornly stuck in his life it used to amaze me

he'd complain about everything that was wrong and then kept doing the same thing he did every day for years without any desire to actually change any aspect of it for better or worse because all change bothered him

but yeah i saw that bit of water when it came to that with you, to someone like me you seem sensitive lol

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Lol you're starting to make me think whether I come off sensitive in person too. I'd like to think that not, was never a fan of those sorts of people.

posted February 22, 2019 09:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Lol you're starting to make me think whether I come off sensitive in person too. I'd like to think that not, was never a fan of those sorts of people.

I remember when I was into mbti... I literally transformed my way of speaking to sort of fit the description of my 'type'. Reading old emails and stuff omg cracks me up lol so fake and I genuinely thought that this is my way of talking. Like I can easily tap into that part, Saturn trines my moon... over time though I realized how dumb that actually is and wouldn't really change my core personality by speaking differently.

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i think you might to some people and not really to others, depends on them

i'm pretty decent at picking up on people's sensitivities and **** about them, but my fiancee and i play cold reading games when we people watch (with her scorpio mercury she's amazing at it) and are out together and things like that

it can be easier than a lot of people would like to get a lot about them with very little

also i'm lacking in that area so it's easier to see it

i don't think it's negative, it's a nice quality that i can appreciate in others that sort of sensitivity can be beautiful really; i like it anyway

i've never gotten into mbti, and i can't alter my speech at all even when i probably should i just always say the exact first thing that comes to mind and then think afterwards

so sometimes i'll find myself arguing with someone based on something that i only partially thought about when i said it and i'm really just sticking to what i said to win while actually forming my opinion as i speak lol even if i think i'm actually wrong by the end of it i'll just find ways to keep it going from the standpoint of "i'm right"

also ***** me over with lying, if someone asks me something that i'd rather not answer or would have preferred to lie about i trip up if they catch me off guard (i'll try to get around things with obvious stupid jokes or by just not saying anything, but outright lying i'm not good with)

legit every word that comes out of my mouth in casual conversation isn't thought out whatsoever even when it's something creative it's just word vomit me writing lyrics or stories etc

i'm the same with actions as i am with speech to a point where i can't tell you how i'd react in any given situation because the reality is i'm just going to react however i will and no amount of guessing beforehand will change that

posted February 23, 2019 10:53 PM            

The part of just blurting out stuff I can totally relate to (Mercury Aries), but I somehow manage to adjust it in a way that my message still comes across as intended, but in a way that doesn't hurt their ear lol. Like asking them a super blunt personal question... But in the midst of talking I realize they'll get offended or something so go off on a tangent where it becomes more of a statement I make that'll force them to counter it with the actual question I'm seeking the answer to. (Manipulative tactics I guess... Mars trine Pluto probably)

posted February 24, 2019 07:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Lol well thanks. I guess it boils down to preference, cuz I rather appreciate indifference in people. Too much enthusiasm or emotion turns me off. (I especially hate people using exclamation points)

The part of just blurting out stuff I can totally relate to (Mercury Aries), but I somehow manage to adjust it in a way that my message still comes across as intended, but in a way that doesn't hurt their ear lol. Like asking them a super blunt personal question... But in the midst of talking I realize they'll get offended or something so go off on a tangent where it becomes more of a statement I make that'll force them to counter it with the actual question I'm seeking the answer to. (Manipulative tactics I guess... Mars trine Pluto probably)

Funny you're mentioning the practicing lies strategies. I sometimes just stand in front of the mirror and practice facial expressions to an answer I expect someone to ask me lol. But in the moment it all goes out the window. I can be super impressionable and if I feel like smiling I won't be able to hold back. So acting serious or whatever when I really don't feel it... It sucks to admit but I do suck at that.

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i find exclamation points vaguely obnoxious too funny enough, and certain levels of enthusiasm are a turn off for me too because it starts to feel too saccharine and like they just lay everything on too thick

but sensitivity and depth of feeling can be different than that, and i like it in person it pushes me to want to be better and create something better for them in one manner or another to preserve that sortof thing and not let the rest of the world tarnish it

i don't usually consider things far enough ahead to have an intended message if i'm being honest, not in regards to other people only information that's sortof separate from that

in the sense that i wont think about things i might want to know about another person really, but i'll spend a faor amount of time thinking about the nature of morality or something like that instead

i don't practice things in the mirror or think about how things might go or about lies or delivery in advance, i find it tedious and boring and it feels like it takes away from any given moment that i could be living instead with concerns that seem worthless

my fiancee and i usually end up arguing a little when i tell her i'm tired of it and don't want to obsess with her, and that she's free to do it on her own if she wants but it doesn't interest me

she's the type to practice job interviews and things like that as well, but that kind of thing is too rigid for me and seems pointless

posted February 24, 2019 10:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:

but sensitivity and depth of feeling can be different than that, and i like it in person it pushes me to want to be better and create something better for them in one manner or another to preserve that sortof thing and not let the rest of the world tarnish it

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Aww lol that was actually sweet.

posted February 24, 2019 10:14 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Do men with this placement sometimes have issues with their fathers? Or their fathers were absent?

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posted February 24, 2019 11:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Aww lol that was actually sweet.

And I don't necessarily practice stuff like job interviews. Moreso something that's personal to me. AKA a guy or something lol. I practice facial expressions of the style emotion I wanna emit. It's just fun, even though I know that it won't end up being that way at all.

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yeah i'm not a total piece of **** lol go figure

with her it's nearly everything, i don't understand it

i'm sure it's helpful sometimes i guess, but it seems mindnumbing

posted February 24, 2019 11:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
yeah i'm not a total piece of **** lol go figure

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posted February 24, 2019 11:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Lol I'll keep it in mind for maybe next time when you do act like one 😆 kidding. Or not dunno lol. No but I am kidding, it's all good you're in the clear, for now at least lol.

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posted February 25, 2019 12:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i can definitely act like one, i know it, good thing i'm charming lol

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