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Cheshire Kat
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posted March 23, 2010 03:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The day they can teleport babies straight from the womb into the world, is the day more women would love to have children. Especially if the teleportation is so advanced that you have good chance your baby will not come out looking like something from the movie "The Fly"..

I actually had no idea we could look at something so maternal in a astrological way, just found out my Aquarian cousin is pregnant and the baby will probably be a Leo or maybe a Virgo..>.>;;

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posted March 23, 2010 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"So far we have:

Venus, Moon, Mars, Pluto, Neptune, Ceres, and the Sun for pregnancy. Jupiter too probably. Did we miss any planets"

I'd add Pluto and Ceres' fellow dwarf planets, Haumea and Makemake( which are named after creation fertility deities) as well as the dwarf planet candidates

My mom had Haumea trine Ascendant in the Solar Return that she got pregnant with me, and she had Quaoar conjunct Ascendant in the Solar Return that she got pregnant with my half brother.

At over 1,000 km in diameter, Quaoar is a dwarf planet candidate that is larger than dwarf planet,Ceres. It's named after the Native American Tongva creation deity. It has a moon,Weywot which is named after Quaoar's sky god son.

mythology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaoar_%28mythology%29

astronomy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50000_Quaoar


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posted March 23, 2010 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See, i LOVE the thought of raising children and i love having kids around me..thats when my maternal instinct comes out. Also to my friends or little animals (that's cancer for you, mama to everyone haha). I'd be a full on Stepford wife mum or Carol Brady. No kidding.

MVM, yeppp sure am. Size 6 (i think that's size 0 in the US), nearly 5"6 (167cm's) so i'm quite petite, my mother is the same size and shape but was tinier than me when she had me! She only weighed 45kg's when she got pregnant with me (but she was only 20).

I got the weird appetites too. For the first few weeks, all i eat was McChicken burgers from McDonalds, with fries and the chicken sauce they use in the burger to have the fries with. Then all of a sudden, the thought of them made me wanna HURL. After that, all i could eat was Strawberry Yogurt. It was around New Years, I couldn't drink cos a sip of alcohol without being violently nauseaus (i KNOW its wrong, i was 17 and was not planning on having it. I was pregnant now, i would put NO foreign substance in my body), couldn't smoke cigarettes or even smell someone else's. It was torture.
After the termination, i woke up and felt so happy to be back to normal (then 2 wks later the depression kicked in) but i was on such a high from being my hormones being back to normal and feeling normal.

My bro was due on MY bday but his Mars in Leo was like, "um..i am SO not sharing a birthday with my sister for the rest of my life. I'm having my own!" and decided to lounge around for 6 days before he came out. As kids i used to think we were twins born 4 yrs apart, haha. But yeah, my mum has a cancer girl and a cancer boy (funnily enough, my Rising is Aries and his is in its opposite, Libra).

Just had a look at his chart, his Mars makes major aspects to anything except squaring his Pluto. His ASC squares Venus though, maybe cos Venus has to do with looks??

My little sister was 2 weeks early and a cesarian too, doctors had to cut along the scar from where i was pulled out to get my sister out 9.5yrs later (late Capricorn with the rest of her chart in Scorpio. We're a very Water-ruled house. THANK GOD my dad's an Aquarius). And 15yrs later she still copies her big sis in every way. She's my mini me.

Pfffffft..eff natural birth lol My friend had one, too late to give drugs, they had to put a knee on each shoulder to stop her from running away. When she started started contractions she was like, "shhh..dont tell anyone." That story traumatised me for life lol

Ps. My boobs were a nice C-D cup, then after the termination they just deflated to a nice lil B...my mum's were like balloons that had the air let out..then a few yrs ago she got a boob job hahaha (but she doesn't show her boobs off or anything, she just wanted them back to fill out her nice HIGH NECKED tops)

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posted March 23, 2010 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dinobleue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm tiny too and pregnancy doesn't scare me...I mean giving birth seems a bit scary but that's what we were MADE to do. Trust your body, you can handle it! I'm 5'3" and about 105 lbs and I was recently pregnant but terminated it Started puking which is weird because I NEVER get sick in my stomach, but my man was puking too which was SO bizarre because I just thought we had a stomach bug. Funny about the coffee- I love it too, drink it everyday and was suddenly put off by it. Also that's funny about the strawberry yogurt- I lived off of fruit and dairy because that's all my body wanted. I googled it and found that milk and fruit are the two most common cravings. Not really a milk drinker but I would drink a glass of it while munching away on the strawberries This all happened right around Halloween so while I was out trying to party I didn't even want to drink because it tasted off to me. We had a big dinner one night and I ate a very rare steak and TONS of food. That's what started the nausea for me. I totally lost my appetite after that(except for fruit and dairy)and I still haven't been able to eat a steak since then. Funny thing is though, the feeling of nausea and dizziness disappeared right after I found out I was pregnant- almost like my body was just using it as an alert that stopped when I answered it. I really feel like pregnancy agreed with me...must be my Cancer Moon and ASC. I'm one of those few women that enjoys having her cycle, lol. I also think the idea of carrying my man's child is very erotic. My biggest fear about not having the baby was that that child would never come into being, so I focused and focused on it and asked that child to please come back at the right time. Then one night as I was showering it hit me suddenly that I was 'acknowledged' and I felt such relief that took my fear away. My best friend told me her mother experienced something similar when she lost a pregnancy before my friend was born, and that she swears that same baby came back and is my friend today. Does that make sense? Also, you women that have been pregnant before- did you feel a distinct presence with you? I don't know if it's my crazy imagination but I could clearly feel like it was not just 'me'.

Sorry I'm blabbing on and on...this happened recently and I really haven't spoken to many people about it. It feels good to kind of speak out 'anonymously' about my experience. Thanks all!

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posted March 23, 2010 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm tiny teeny weeny (33" hips!) and i've had 3 boys!

9, 8 and 7 lbs

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posted March 23, 2010 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dino: dont feel bad about blabbing on, cos your not Its really good that you have found a safe space to be vulnerable and open and even better that you can talk about it. Real proud of you

I suggest, when your feeling ready, to find a counselor who you feel comfortable and open with and get some objective support while your going through the processes.

Lara: you give me hope.
I'm just worried about the saggy boobies, stretch marks and saggy stomach skin. Me thinks ill be requesting a tummy tuck at the same time as the cesarian

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posted March 23, 2010 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dinobleue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Diablo. I've made peace with it. I know it will happen again when the time is right.

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posted March 23, 2010 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh hon, my boobs are trashed - munched to death!
I have stretch marks on my tummy that i hate with a vengeance

It sucks. It's genetic too, sadly.

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posted March 23, 2010 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindredcayce     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very compelling, I just did a quick check, and in my SR chart for conceiving my daughter Pluto is in the 5th, and for my son's conception south node is in the 5th.

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posted March 23, 2010 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Mom was having 4th house ruler conjunct 5th house ruler, falling onto the cusp of the 11th house in the SR and her natal 5th house, when she had me.
The weird thing is, that the ASC of that SR chart is exactly conjunct my natal ASC!


When she had my youngest brother, her 4th house ruler was conjunct her 5th house ruler again!
The old ruler of her SR 4th house fell into her natal 5th house.
Her natal 4th house ruler in SR fell into her natal 5th house exactly conjunct Neptune, which rules the SR 4th house.

When she had my middle brother, the 4th house ruler was in 5th house, and the 5th house ruler was in the 4th house, exactly conjunct her natal 5th house cusp and curiously the planet / Dwarf planet was.... PLUTO.


Interestingly in all three years there was a Neptune emphasis:

my birth:
Neptune conjunc ASC and Moon in Pisces


My middle brother`s birth:
Venus, ruler of SR 4th and natal 5th house, conjunct Neptune in SR 5th house.

my youngest brother`s birth:
Mars, SR ruler of 5th house, conjunct Neptune, SR ruler of 4th house

Mercury, natal ruler of 4th house, conjunct Neptune in natal 5th house

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Lara
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posted March 23, 2010 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OH BOY!!!!!

This year SR i have my SR 5th ruler in my 4th and SR 4th ruler in my 5th.
^&% !

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posted March 23, 2010 06:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ahahah Lara

good fr you!here comes the fourth baby!!!

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posted March 23, 2010 08:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD,

You got it spot on..

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posted March 23, 2010 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yah but if your hot, who cares about that stuff?? Other ladies in their naughty 40s look like they're in their 50s-60s, like grandmas (not their fault, not all of us are obsessed with appearance or lucky genetics wise so I'm not hating on anyone here, serious. I love all ppl, regardless)

Hm..lucky for me(and all the other vain women out there) there's surgery and implants and push up bras lol. I wanna be a hot mama.

Dino: That's exactly right, it wasn't the right time for this child to come into this world. You did the right thing. If i had mine, he'd be 6 and a half and i tell you, having him at 18 would have made me the worst mother EVER and that poor kid would be growing up neglected, unsupported, resented and unwanted. I would never put my child through that so nearly 7 yrs later, I have finally come to peace with that.

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posted March 24, 2010 03:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ekf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i just looked at mine and the solar return for the year i conceived (different than the solar return for the year she was born)

i had SR saturn in the 9th square SR sun in the 5th.

i was travelling like crazy for work and she was also conceived during a vacation which might be the saturn in the 9th

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i was also thinking that probably the pregnany might be showned in the relationship´s charts.

like composite with transits.?

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posted March 25, 2010 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for depth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
diablo:
size 6/0!!!!!!

i already hve stretch marks due 2 yo-yo dieting & rigorous excercise... ..but they're not that bad. i wanna age naturally.

my dreams' to live with my luv(ex - not officially broken up) in a two storeyed villa in the country. one fine day,i'll be watering our garden in a white dress with red polka dots & he'll be sitting on a wooden white bench reading a newspaper. that's when i get a bit noty & aim the hose @ him & then SPLASH....he gets annoyed & starts chasing me & then yes!romance on the bench discussing how we spent so many years togetha with tears in our eyes.

SR(when my mom concieved me):time of birth - unknown
moon opp jupiter
moon sext ceres
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pMoon conj nPluto

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posted March 25, 2010 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dinobleue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Depth- that was a lovely little visual! I'm sure you will get what you want.

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posted March 26, 2010 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for depth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanx dino!!

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lol @ depth. I dream of the same things and diandrareborn good point i looked into this last year.

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posted March 26, 2010 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Depth: lol you sound like a full on Earth mother type, i like that. I used to dream of that when i was a little girl hehe.

Dont think stretch marks will ever be much of a problem, i've been the same size my whole life and haven't changed much, at all, if any. I have very few faint ones that you can only see with a magnifying glass from my boobs going to a D cup from being 3 months pregnant then losing all the milk, but its more just loose skin..in my younger years i took a lot of drugs and speed just eats away at any fat you have, permanently and boobs are usually the first thing to go to.

But they're a nice B now, not saggy or nothing. I suspect they'd get worse if i did have children cos my body wouldn't bounce back at 25 like it did at 17 lol

Ahhh that earth mother dream was meant for many years later in my life, i think lol. I want a lot of kids around me, not just mine, but they're friends, cousins, my nieces and nephews, my cousin's kids etc etc..i LOVE the idea of a house full of kids on the weekend. I'm so lame like that.

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posted March 26, 2010 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dinobleue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's not lame! I dream of that too! In my visual I'm making them food- lunch, snacks, baked goods...lol this is so textbook Cancer.

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Depth


im also a bit like that in my own dreams!today i was watching a tv program about women who chosed to be mothers at full time,instead of working at their careers and they were so full of light and happiness...i though to myself:being a Mom sure must be something amazing

i dont really care about gaining weight or streatch marks...i guess that comes to 2nd plan once you enjoy the happiness of motherhood.

Belgz

did you looked at that?and did you found some conclusions?

caus in our charts i did find some interesting things...

For instance in the Composite with Transits

- Tr Ceres entered our C.5th
- Tr Pluto (ruler of C.4TH)/Karma are in C.5th approachin C.Ceres
- Tr NN and Felicitas in C.5TH approachin n.VERTEX


isnt Kiron strongly aspected also when there is a child birth? it is entering the DSC.

Ive looked at our C.Ceres...receives trine from venus/ruler 3th and MC,and Sedna/PF.
BUT sqaures Moon and merc ruler 2nd and 11th ...does this show some problem in fertility?

OUR PROGRESSED COMPOSIT w. Transits

- Tr Ceres,Pluto and Karma and NN on C.4Th.
- Tr ruler of C.4th jup approachin VX/DSC
- Tr Sedna cj PF
- Tr Makemake cj ASC

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posted March 26, 2010 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol yep, that's me..early Cancer sun at the end of june..have to admit, with a bit of that Gemini influence and that Libra moon, it took me a really long time to get comfortable with the idea of being a mother. Which is weird cos I'm maternal to everyone in my circle, i'm everybody's surrogate mum/big sister/aunt/godmother lol

One thing i really cant wait for is having kids so i can do kid things like fingerpaint and play kid games cos i'm a big kid at heart and have an reason to do it hahahaha

DD: i wanna be the hot MILF picking up her kids in the Mercedes from their private school like Eva Longoria in Desperate Housewives LOL LOL LOL (there's a Libra Moon/Venus Taurus mother for you! Down to Earth but vain at the same time..blame that on Libra being a duplicate sign that rules my 7th house of partnerships. Total trophy wife )

Of course, these are my wildest fantasies lol

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Myvirgomask,


quote:
So far we have:
Venus, Moon, Mars, Pluto, Neptune, Ceres, and the Sun for pregnancy. Jupiter too probably. Did we miss any planets


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