posted April 07, 2010 12:33 AM            

Hazelnut Icecream is the Best says:
hehe yeah
exactly
lols
should i post that.. and say u said it on msn

posted April 07, 2010 12:35 AM            

:edit: I just realized you also said this to MVM previously. My new mouse is weird, when I scroll down it scrolls too quickly sometimes - sorry I missed that.. :edit:

That puts a very different spin on things.

There is always another way out. Try to help her find a job maybe. If she is scared of this, it could have a seriously negative impact on her psychologically.

I don't think she should go through with it.

posted April 07, 2010 12:37 AM            

I don't believe in cause and effect in Astrology. I don't believe a person's transits cause them to do anything. I believe that people have free will to made decisions and take actions that are in synchroncity with the astrological in some way. The person is responsible for their own actions.

When we talk about how astrological configurations cause people to do certain things it adds critics' argument that Astrology doesn't support free will and that it dismisses people being responsible for their own actions.

Free will is the ultimate factor.

She has Sun conjunct Pluto,and it squares the Geocentric North Pluto Nodes in 21'26 Cancer. Therefore, she's strong with collective Plutonian energy. She has the free will to be an occultist,psychologist/Psychiatrist, or a sex-worker as well as other things that fit with symbolisms of Pluto.

The Sun-Pluto conjunction is square the Geocentric Jupiter Nodes in 21'22 Cancer. Therefore, she's strong with collective Jupiter energy. It could indicate an expansive nature, but there can be a tendency to be indulgent and excessive. She has the free will to be generous to others/

The combination of Sun-Pluto conjunction square the Geocentric North Jupiter Node-Geocentric North Pluto Node could be a configuration for wealth.

Her Venus squares Geocentric South Uranus Node, and so her love nature is connected to collective Uranian energy. It can indicate that her love nature,relationships,values can be unconventional. She can be a rebellious against cultural norms.

It would nice to know her birthtime so I can check out her Midheaven,Ascendant,and Moon aspects.

I'd look at not only Pluto , but also its fellow plutinos, Orcus,Ixion. Those are dwarf planet candidates that have 3:2 orbital resonance with Neptune like Pluto. Therefore,they are astronomically similar to Pluto. Logically, they are astrologically similar to Pluto.

also Ixion's myth is more sexual than Pluto's. He was actually punished by Zeus for betraying his trust because of his sexual advances towards Hera. In the myth, Pluto/Hades abducted Proserpina/Persephone. There is conflicted myths of whether he raped her or not. Also mythology talked about any children that they had. Orcus is named after the Etruscan counterpart of Pluto.

It's rule for astronomers to name Plutino's after Underworld characters.

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posted April 07, 2010 12:37 AM            

I don't believe in cause and effect in Astrology. I don't believe a person's transits cause them to do anything. I believe that people have free will to make decisions and take actions that are in synchroncity with the astrological in some way. The person is responsible for his/her own actions.

When we talk about how astrological configurations cause people to do certain things it adds critics' argument that Astrology doesn't support free will and that it dismisses people being responsible for their own actions.

Free will is the ultimate factor.

She has Sun conjunct Pluto,and it squares the Geocentric North Pluto Nodes in 21'26 Cancer. Therefore, she's strong with collective Plutonian energy. She has the free will to be an occultist,psychologist/Psychiatrist, or a sex-worker as well as other things that fit with symbolisms of Pluto.

The Sun-Pluto conjunction is square the Geocentric Jupiter Nodes in 21'22 Cancer. Therefore, she's strong with collective Jupiter energy. It could indicate an expansive nature, but there can be a tendency to be indulgent and excessive. She has the free will to be generous to others/

The combination of Sun-Pluto conjunction square the Geocentric North Jupiter Node-Geocentric North Pluto Node could be a configuration for wealth.

Her Venus squares Geocentric South Uranus Node, and so her love nature is connected to collective Uranian energy. It can indicate that her love nature,relationships,values can be unconventional. She can be rebellious against cultural norms.

It would nice to know her birthtime so I can check out her Midheaven,Ascendant,and Moon aspects.

I'd look at not only Pluto , but also its fellow plutinos, Orcus,Ixion. Those are dwarf planet candidates that have 3:2 orbital resonance with Neptune like Pluto. Therefore,they are astronomically similar to Pluto. Logically, they are astrologically similar to Pluto.

also Ixion's myth is more sexual than Pluto's. He was actually punished by Zeus for betraying his trust because of his sexual advances towards Hera. In the myth, Pluto/Hades abducted Proserpina/Persephone. There is conflicted myths of whether he raped her or not. Also mythology did not talk about any children that they had. Orcus is named after the Etruscan counterpart of Pluto.

It's rule for astronomers to name Plutinos after Underworld characters.

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posted April 07, 2010 12:41 AM            

T. plu through the 8th is known as a bankrupting transit. A lot of people file for bankruptcy with it here or have major financial problems.

posted April 07, 2010 12:58 AM            

Geocentric object node is the intersection of the orbital plane of an object in relation to the orbit of Earth.

An aspect to a geocentric node of an object is like an aspect to the object itself.

so an aspect to a geocentric Jupiter Node is like an aspect to Jupiter
an aspect to a geocentric Pluto Node is like an aspect to Pluto

posted April 07, 2010 01:04 AM            

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This isn't "sex talk" it is also astro-relevant.

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Took the words right out of my mouth. There is a difference, Sanchenuss.

quote:

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I don't believe in cause and effect in Astrology. I don't believe a person's transits cause them to do anything. I believe that people have free will to made decisions and take actions that are in synchroncity with the astrological in some way. The person is responsible for their own actions.

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I was about to disagree with you (saying sometimes transits bring circumstances that cause us to act a certain way) until you mentioned synchronicity. I get what you're saying now. Either way, I agree that free will always dominates.

posted April 07, 2010 01:14 AM            

I still think that makes an excuse to not responsible for own actions.

I don't believe transits make anybody do anything period.

If that's the case,it would be scary for somebody to have transiting Pluto conjunct his natal Sun, and he felt the compulsion to kill a person.

I don't believe that any transit makes anybody insane. I believe that they become insane in synchronicity with the transit.
I also believe that they already had a predisposition for insanity to begin with, and that something triggers the insanity. It could just be certain stressors that trigger it. Psychiatric disorders are known to be triggered by stress.

I have this theory that transneptunians (including Pluto) in strong personal aspects to personal planets,points are in synchronicity with the predisposition to have a psychotic disorder too. I don't think that it has to be a hard aspect. Psychiatric community doesn't recognize mystical,psychic,shamanic stuff. Therefore,people are open about that stuff to psychiatrists will end up with diagnosis of psychoses even though they may not be psychotic. This could be reflected by hard Neptune aspects that tend to indicate misdiagnoses. Futhermore, psychotic traits overlap with neurodivergent traits.

hard transneptunian aspects could indicate a person with serious hypersensitivity boundary issues that might be viewed as sensory integration issues by people in the special education field. They also could indicate psychological traumas that profoundly effect how a person reacts in his/her environment. Extreme stress can lead a previously psychological trauma-experienced hypersensitive person to have a mental break down that can lead to a psychotic episode that involves losing touch with reality in some way and interferes with their daily functioning.

Transneptunians like Pluto seem to be about the unknown,the otherside

there is a fine line between the psychotic,schizophrenic and the mystic,shaman,psychic
depending on how a person is viewed in society

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posted April 07, 2010 01:28 AM            

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I don't believe transits make anybody do anything period.

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Nevermind. That's not even what I meant.

posted April 07, 2010 01:43 AM            

I'm guessing it means everything sex-related.

posted April 07, 2010 01:49 AM            

I didn't think that it was a sex thread.

I just thought it was thread to look at indicators for prostitution.

I'd also look at Nessus. There is something sexual about that centaur. It also links the orbits of Saturn and Pluto. Saturn/Pluto midpoint is said to be Nessus-sensitive which means aspects to Saturn/Pluto midpoint is like an aspect to Nessus.

I'd also check out the geocentric,heliocentric nodes of Nessus too.
also the geocentric,heliocentric nodes of Orcus,Ixion,Pluto.

I'd look at only the ptolemaic aspects with no more than 1 degree. The narrower the orb, the stronger the effect.

You can check them here: http://www.true-node.com/eph1/

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posted April 07, 2010 01:49 AM            

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those other threads degenerated into discussion about what people do to get off.

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posted April 07, 2010 01:51 AM            

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I didn't think that it was a sex thread.

I just thought it was thread to look at indicators for prostitution.

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Prostitution isn't sex?

It's not a sex-related topic...

posted April 07, 2010 01:55 AM            

It's a thread to go over a person's chart about astrological indicators for potential prostitute and events that factored into her making the decision to go that route.

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posted April 07, 2010 01:57 AM            

And from my perspective prostitution can be included in *sexual-habit*.

posted April 07, 2010 02:00 AM            

I wasn't talking about Duke's thread.
I was talking about this thread.

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posted April 07, 2010 02:01 AM            

The indicators I've heard are also whats been stated,
Venus Virgo/Capricorn/h6/h10
Venus Saturn/Pluto