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Topic: Astrology and Prostitution
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Cheshire Kat unregistered
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posted April 07, 2010 02:07 AM
What happens if the person's Venus and Moon is in Aquarius..?I don't want say Aquarian influences makes for experimentation and emotional detachement for this kind of work but probably. IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 2791 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009
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posted April 07, 2010 02:41 AM
quote: Which threads? I thought the only one was Duke's (which was astrology-related and the topic was perfectly fine from my perspective). And as far as I understand prostitution is a means of "getting off" for the men paying for the services. Or are we neglecting to discuss the part of prostitution that makes it prostitution?
You're missing the point: this post has stayed in the category of astrologically-relevant. That one about Pluto and Orgasms veered off into left field with people describing in graphic detail what they do to get off. Not neccesary.
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vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 1868 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted April 07, 2010 02:51 AM
hmmm It didn't veer off though as far as I remember. I thought AG's was the last post. I remember reading that and it had astrology content. Anyway - I'll get off this thread. Diana was talking about Sanchenuss specifically - not Duke or other posts anyway. And Sanchenuss' posts were unrelated to astrology that's true. But I was just making the point that Duke was still told off for astrologically-relevant.. sex-talk. __________________________________________ Benedict and Lonake.. I'll reply here because this thread is going completely off-topic and I started it.. so lets just end it. Benedict - I personally see relevance there. I didn't find the thread weird or out of place, definitely not in comparison to some others such as Cardinal's masturbation thread or another thread which I quoted. I won't go back and find it now. And yes Sanchenuss' posts were very irrelevant on this forum. I did tell him off for that myself. He mainly kept to his own thread though up until Duke's threads. PA would've moved his thread to LLC2 ages ago, which would be fair enough.. I didn't see a reason for him to get banned. Lonake - I know.. I agree. :edit: oh I tried not to lol.. but I just had to say this --
Benedict.. This is why I felt it was relevant: Some people don't have an orgasm their entire lives. I know they are in the minority. Several studies go on about women on average having their first orgasm much later than men - which frankly as far as I know from personal experience and accounts is not the case. People have different ways of seeing sex.. They had different ways of discovering sex personally and dealing with that discovery. And yes - I thought it was interesting to see the astro-correlation. For instance - even though S is completely astrology oblivious.. what he said surprised me. He said he was actually SCARED his first time. Considering his Mars-Pluto and Scorpio moon + Leo sun, that really did surprise me. On the other hand they often say Capricorn is inhibited or cautious-fearful. But I have always been very comfy with my own body. I have a Capricorn Mars. I never even felt slightly scared or wary of my first orgasm. Sex seems like the most natural thing to me. IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 2791 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009
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posted April 07, 2010 02:53 AM
Well Sanchenuss was the main culprit, so thats probably who I was thinking of when I remember the thread. But the kickoff of the thread wasn't much better: How do you show relevance to that kind of thing? *edit* I actually think there's alot of irrelevant crap around here these days, its not fair to single out graphic 'sex talk'. This board is long due for a Spring Cleaning.
And sorry, I don't see how asking people when their first orgasm was would contribute to astrology (a placement in a chart can't tell you that), but this is probably veering off into the realm of 'personal opinion'. *Why am I editing to add again?* Fine, you have your point. It still gave license to people like Sanchenuss to make it absolute crap, and thats probably why the thread got a bad name. This one is not the same, you actually have to contribute relevant knowledge to help someone understand something. Off topic: I don't know many people who are scared or freaked out by orgasms, besides those who may be 'restricted' in some way. IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 7829 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 07, 2010 02:53 AM
quote: But a few others were previously and the person was not told off like Duke or banned like S.
I guess we all get to play the 'black sheep'/'scapegoat' role at one point or another.. (not being flippant/sarcastic, just my pov) ~IP: Logged |
popcorn Knowflake Posts: 2770 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted April 07, 2010 03:26 AM
In all history study about prostitution you will see the most women have been affected by abuse or sexual assault in some way in their childhood. Thats psychology. Astrology and psychology are different subject. Astology can not show if you be prostitute or not. Psychology can show that.IP: Logged |
mercuranian Knowflake Posts: 489 From: the 12th house Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 07, 2010 03:34 AM
Diana,"transiting pluto in the 8th is known as the bankruptcy transit" what if you have no money to begin with? IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 1868 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted April 07, 2010 05:52 AM
The only thing I found on this topic online is that Liz Green believes prostitution to be related to Venus-Saturn aspects. IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 1868 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted April 07, 2010 05:53 AM
quote: . Liz Greene allies Saturn/Venus contacts with prostitution, and if we are not being too literal with this interpretation it becomes clear where Saturn can be involved in the scenario. Promiscuous behaviour is also associated with Venus/Saturn aspects in Ptolemy's view, whilst Venus/Mars aspects warn of 'an abundance of lust'.
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/love.html IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted April 07, 2010 05:59 AM
ummm Liz Greene mainly says that venus/saturn close aspects point to a GREAT LOVER.I just had to say that, having a venus/saturn cj  IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 1868 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted April 07, 2010 06:05 AM
lol Ok. They didn't quote her so I wasn't sure where they got that from. IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted April 07, 2010 06:14 AM
I don't agree with the other bit though cos i have never been promiscuous in my life! I'm a complete prude when it comes to men, very few get through the net  IP: Logged |
Diablo Knowflake Posts: 884 From: Melbourne, Australia Registered: May 2009
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posted April 07, 2010 06:16 AM
I got Venus opp. Saturn, I read that Liz Greene article and i have to agree with some of the things she says, like being wanted by men and hated by the majority of women and having emotional security issues that go back to the home life and the relationship with parents.Although I wasn't a prostitute, I was an exotic dancer and there's a VERY VERY fine line as to what makes a stripper different from a prostitute. Think of it like this, a stripper performs a lapdance for a patron, stimulates him with her hands and makes him ejaculate, on the sly during the dance he paid for, to which he pays her considerably greater (trying to be as clinical as i can with the visual description. I'm not going off on a tangent like Duke or Sancheuss ((or however you spell his name)) but seeing as we ARE talking about prostitution then some things of a sexual nature NEED to be said) Or what about the stripper who goes home with the club patrons after her shift? Or the prostitute who works as a stripper so she can get her clientele base as a club?? What defines what? I'll tell you, after 2 years in the sex industry (and i have met and befriended many, many prostitutes, from the street corner type to the one that works in a brothel to the one who works as a high class escort), IT IS UNDEFINABLE. IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 1868 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted April 07, 2010 06:32 AM
Lara - I found this on Google Books.. The book was "Saturn".She does mention prostitution but she says this is "one" extreme of the Venus-Saturn aspects.
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vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 1868 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted April 07, 2010 06:34 AM
lol If someone bans Diablo or closes the thread.. I think I'm quitting the Astro Forum lol I'll go hang out in GU  IP: Logged |
Diablo Knowflake Posts: 884 From: Melbourne, Australia Registered: May 2009
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posted April 07, 2010 07:05 AM
Lmao I'm keeping in mind everybody's concerns about the graphic sex talk that's been offending lately and just putting a bit of "disclaimer", lol. And I'm trying to describe these things like a doctor would lol. I think i did ok and didn't manage to offend anyone, as this topic is specifically about sex? lolI do talk about sex, but in a more general sense, i suppose? As in, I'd rather talk about sexuality in relation to the personality, relationships and the self and what experiences have had a profound effect on shaping the individual as to who they are now, rather than sex and the down and dirty of it with details and all. I really don't care how orgasmic Pluto is, seriously unless it really good information with proper research content in it that's applied in a broader sense, not some Sex Life Q&A. Apologies to anyone who is offended by the visual..i kindly suggest you click outta this topic and i'll meet you on another one to discuss some other great mystery of life that's just as interesting  IP: Logged |
popcorn Knowflake Posts: 2770 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted April 07, 2010 08:14 AM
If you say saturn-venus = prostitution For me I can say yes, if you mean prostitution = married without love but married with a man because he is rich. For me that's almost the same like prostitution but in another way.For me that's more saturn-venus in strong aspect. IP: Logged |
belgz unregistered
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posted April 07, 2010 09:47 AM
Ok here is my friend Danielle from school. She was the girl who slept with half the school and then half of Sydney. I used to really love her as a friend till she got on ice and i always really cared about her and looked out for her but she has some serious issues now and I stopped talking to her about 3 years ago. She started in topless waitressing then erotic massage and now shes been working in a brothel for about 7 years.Edit: She was also molested by her father and her mother is an escort
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belgz unregistered
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posted April 07, 2010 09:50 AM
This is another friend i met through work. Shes a twin and started doing erotic massage and does double shows with her twin sister (incest) and has been doing it since a young age. They are extremely secretive and private about what they do though. They even allow their clients to have sex with them without protection. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 4582 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 07, 2010 09:53 AM
I might edit this out later - I have no idea if the woman would see this (I don't know why she would), but I feel a little paranoid, so please don't quote this. I feel bad writing about her, but I know a little bit of what was going on astrologically for her, though I don't know her birth time and ascendant.When Uranus was moving closer to her Sun, a few years ago, she met someone who flipped her upside-down emotionally. Two months later, she was getting a divorce, and later on that same year, she mentioned polyamory - she has been living a polyamorous lifestyle since that point. I don't know her well, but I do know that she was briefly into "sugar daddy" experiences, as well as swapping sex for business practices (she needed something, and enjoyed sex, so why not? was her attitude). She had Uranus moving back and forth over her Sun, and she has either a Capricorn or Aquarius Moon, and she needed the money. I don't know what happened, but I don't think she's doing it anymore... I'm trying to remember her other astrological placements. She was also born in 1980. IP: Logged |
belgz unregistered
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posted April 07, 2010 09:54 AM
This was another good friend of mine..She had been working since she was 16 and her mother also worked in a brothel. She has a great relationship with her mother but her father tried to molest her when she was younger. She stopped working in brothels when she fell pregnant with her son 3 years ago. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 4582 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 07, 2010 09:58 AM
quote: I do have a problem with prostitution. My problem is that it is duping men into paying money for something that should be free and genuine..
I recently read posts from several men on another message board, that men don't pay prostitutes for the sex, that they pay them to go away... that it's the ideal situation for a lot of men, because it's just sex, and nothing more. (Ugh.) IP: Logged |
belgz unregistered
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posted April 07, 2010 09:59 AM
OK this is a friend of mine who i love with all my heart and is probably my soul mate in some way. She got raped by about 10 arabs repeatedly when she was 14. She worked as a stripper and in a brothel till she was 20 i think. She is now 27 has a beautiful baby and is happily married and a very changed woman. IP: Logged |
belgz unregistered
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posted April 07, 2010 10:01 AM
and no none of my friends were poor or didnt have money. We all were in private schools with no means to end up in prostitution but they did make on average $1000 a day.IP: Logged |
belgz unregistered
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posted April 07, 2010 10:07 AM
quote: I do have a problem with prostitution. My problem is that it is duping men into paying money for something that should be free and genuine..
LOL We all know (especially scorpio placements) that we can use this to get our way with men and if its money we want then so be it or if its something else we sometimes like to all play with it and use it against men. But I also read that scorpios like to hold out from sex if they want to punish their partners. Venus or sun in scorpio especially. IP: Logged |