posted May 29, 2012 02:03 PM            

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Originally posted by scrappydog:
Her cappy moon is in the 8th or 9th depending on house systems and no planets in 12th. T pluto is approaching conj by 3deg and is currently square her saturn. She is also in her satrn return in libra in 6th.

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Cappy Moon? Uhm, no. Try Libra Moon. If we're talking 10 October 1980, in Phoenix, AZ, she's my astrotwin (12 October 1980, in Dallas, TX.) Her Moon would be in late Libra, potentially early Scorpio, given birthtime, (mine's in late), with ... 29* Scorpio Mars? And ... 06* Virgo Venus.

She's 31, actually, turning 32 this year. Curiously, I'm also from a wealthy family, was very principled, moralistic, (still am, I like to think), but I did enter the adult industry in 2009.

This is looking like it's definitely astrological. I blamed my progressed chart being largely Scorpio since 2004.

-A.

posted May 29, 2012 02:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
"Secret Diary of a Call Girl" was one of my favourite shows. The episode where Belle tends to the disabled boy (car accident) whose father brings him there to meet her was very moving.

The services are necessary for some people. Some have anxiety disorders. Others have physical disabilities. Others have weird sexual fetishes that they can't share with ANYONE. Others have performance issues and trouble getting or maintaining an erection
and can only relax with a woman when she's paid not to judge him. Others have workaholic tendencies combined with intimacy issues and and can only get sex in this type of context, they don't have time nor the inclination to properly court a woman. It really opened up my eyes.

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So true I agree

posted May 29, 2012 02:09 PM            

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Originally posted by scrappydog:
Called her just now 10-15-80 phoenix, az were almost astro twins she grew up down the street from me but in tx sorry bout faulty info havent been close to her in over 10 years, we talk on facebook and text now and then but shes always brutally honest

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Holy. Crap. She's 16 October 1980 IN TEXAS? Where in Texas? Don't say Dallas ... if so, good, God, wonder of wonders, I KNOW who this IS.

-A.

posted May 29, 2012 02:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Glaucus:
She has Sun conjunct Pluto,and it squares the Geocentric North Pluto Nodes in 21'26 Cancer. Therefore, she's strong with collective Plutonian energy. She has the free will to be an occultist,psychologist/Psychiatrist, or a sex-worker as well as other things that fit with symbolisms of Pluto.

The Sun-Pluto conjunction is square the Geocentric Jupiter Nodes in 21'22 Cancer. Therefore, she's strong with collective Jupiter energy. It could indicate an expansive nature, but there can be a tendency to be indulgent and excessive. She has the free will to be generous to others/

The combination of Sun-Pluto conjunction square the Geocentric North Jupiter Node-Geocentric North Pluto Node could be a configuration for wealth.

Her Venus squares Geocentric South Uranus Node, and so her love nature is connected to collective Uranian energy. It can indicate that her love nature,relationships,values can be unconventional. She can be a rebellious against cultural norms.

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-choke, gasp, cough-

Holy God that's frightening. How did you get started with planetary nodes Glaucus? I'm being seriously schooled here.

Incidentally, I took the dominatrix sex therapist route. Yes. I became a dominatrix / sex therapist. Achieved a surprising amount of media attention from it, too. Made some good money.

Now I'm done with 'that phase' of my evolution, and am ready to focus on putting my all into being a writer-director-producer, and recently, actress.

I fully agree with the inclusion of free will here. What's that we 'all' learnt? The stars impel, they don't compel?

posted May 29, 2012 02:31 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Two months later, she was getting a divorce, and later on that same year, she mentioned polyamory - she has been living a polyamorous lifestyle since that point. ... She was also born in 1980.

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I think with, at least latter 1980 births, we've got a LOT of Uranian energy. I'd also find it extremely doubtful if she just up and decided one day to become poly. Personally, my earliest experiences were in grade-school, (I just didn't realise it) and then in college, (when I was fully aware). It has a definite trajectory. One does not suddenly wake up and decide to engage in unconventional sexual practises or interpersonal relations.

Incidentally, I've got Black Holes in tight conjunction to many of my personal planets - especially Venus and Mars. I've noticed it's very both Uranian and Plutonian in expression.

-A.

posted May 29, 2012 02:47 PM            

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Originally posted by vapor-lash:
Benedict -

Well it seems they are impressionable.. Because if there was a vote, I think we'd get a large majority saying "ay!" to a few of those things..

Questions such as..

"Is this sexual act taboo and anti-Christianity?"

"Would you ever do this with the "good" girl next door.. or with your wife?"

etc...

The whole point of consumerism is implanting a desire for something - saying LOOK here is something you need and want.. Here are the sexual acts you *desire*.. Here are women you *should* desire.. Then saying those things are wrong and taboo, which makes them even more desired - and then putting a price on those things.

I really think this happens extremely often.. and I'm surprised you think of a majority of people as not impressionable.

Of course it is everyone's individual decision what they do. But I can't take up this problem with every individual. My biggest problem is with the system we "have" - the system that is creating this situation.. and the people making money out of it.

If no one was making money here.. as I said - if there was NO market.. we wouldn't have a problem in the first place.

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I hate to say it, but I agree 100% with this, even as I also find the 'contrasting' points as valid. This IS the message I often see, and, having been Alice gone down the rabbit-hole, I can tell you, that's astonishingly accurate. The market is THERE. The MESSAGES are there, in ALL their f*cked-up, backwards glory.

I'll never say there's an evolution; I've known former prostitutes to go into porn, but very, very, rarely the other way around.

I can't watch half of what qualifies for porn these days - especially the free material. It's so damned brutal. THOSE are the men I wanted to kick in the nads. THOSE are the men I wanted to slap in the face and demand they treat a woman with PROPER RESPECT.

But you get the guy whose wife isn't kinky, or the programmer down the street who really needs pain to get off. And ... augh ... you don't want to hurt THEM. I mean, SOMETIMES, if they were seriously genuine jerkfaces, I -didn't mind- as much doing my 'job'.

But this is why I slowly reoriented everything into a sex therapy practise. Hey, that degree turned out to be good for something!

Just my thoughts.

posted May 29, 2012 05:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
IndigoDirae, you remind me of "The Most Interesting Man In The World" meme. Only, you're a woman.

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Uh. Thanks? Wait, no. That's facetious. Right. I know, it's crazy, isn't it? I can't even explain it, honestly. I ... bore easily? I ... tend to do a lot of things?

I'm also not NEARLY as interesting as I seem? (At least to myself I'm not. But, y'know. Virgo ASC / 12H Venus. We tend to be very oblivious to certain elements of ourselves.)

posted May 29, 2012 05:58 PM            

For one thing, a LOT of murder victims are hookers. On top of that, there is also risk of assault, rape, and disease. It's a VERY high-risk profession. In some places, it IS illegal. And, too, not only are hookers high-risk for being killed, they also can go for a long time without being missed and their cases don't always make the news as often as those of non-hookers, so there's not as much awareness out there when they do go missing.

I also don't believe in the concept of sex for money. I don't believe in casual sex, either. It's just too risky, and even with precautions, (a) those precautions have negative side effects that are very dangerous (enough for some pills like Yaz to be recalled) and (b) in the event that the precautions are not used correctly or fail (or are not used at all), the stakes are VERY high and the negative consequences (murder, disease, pregnancy, rape, assault) are horrible.

On top of THAT, if the prostitute is cheating with a taken person, he/she (and the person cheating with her/him) are also unfairly putting the spouse/partner of the cheater at risk for diseases, which is appalling, to me. It isn't fair to go behind someone's back and have sex because you can spread diseases to the spouse/partner. That, to me, is NOT right.

posted May 30, 2012 04:33 AM            

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Uh. Thanks? Wait, no. That's facetious. Right. I know, it's crazy, isn't it? I can't even explain it, honestly. I ... bore easily? I ... tend to do a lot of things?

I'm also not NEARLY as interesting as I seem? (At least to myself I'm not. But, y'know. Virgo ASC / 12H Venus. We tend to be very oblivious to certain elements of ourselves.)

-A.

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posted May 30, 2012 08:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Oh Boy - Who bumped this can of worms?

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posted May 30, 2012 08:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
You are very fascinating, you are lucky because unlike a lot of people you can die knowing you had a crazy adventure of a life. I don't if that seems weird, because I respect people who live to fullest, most of us conform to societies norms and judge others who, well do what ever they want. As long as you're not hurting others why restrict your self.

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I agree. I love reading her stories. They're nuts! In a good way though. I'm glad she exists and is so vocal with her stories for the same reason I'm glad that gays exist. Most of us are boring. People who live their lives out loud add colour to an otherwise drab and grey world.

posted May 30, 2012 01:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

I agree. I love reading her stories. They're nuts! In a good way though. I'm glad she exists and is so vocal with her stories for the same reason I'm glad that gays exist. Most of us are boring. People who live their lives out loud add colour to an otherwise drab and grey world.

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IndigoDirae has been gifted with words since forever ago, and she has a precise and engaging way of weaving them together into something eyecatching. The fact she's a screenwriter these days doesn't surprise me in the least, and I maintain that all her experiences have all led up to this. I love being me, since I can live vicariously through her.

posted May 30, 2012 01:56 PM            

Depends on what posters make of it, and I enjoyed reading the replies. Great topic.

posted May 30, 2012 01:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Oh Boy - Who bumped this can of worms?

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posted May 30, 2012 02:40 PM            

Just for the record, there are many, many ways people prostitute themselves. Stay in a marriage primarily because of the financial support? Work at a job you despise because you get paid well? Hang out with people you don't truly respect for status reasons? These are all ways we prostitute ourselves. And there are a thousand more.

What is the difference between paying for sex and having sex because it raises your self esteem? Or just because it feels good? People do that too. You give me this and I'll give you that. I see money as an energy just like everything else. I'm not saying that there's anything right or wrong about any of these choices because they are inevitably all choices/parts of our soul growth (in my opinion).

Really just making the point that there are many ways to look at an issue.

Having said that, I do agree with what RegradsPlatero said about cheating spouses putting their partners at risk, but then that's a breach of the relationship on the spouse's part and whether they see a prostitute or meet a random person at a bar it amounts to the same thing. I agree that couples should be making every attempt to work through their issues together - not on the sly and not at the risk of their partner.

posted May 30, 2012 04:41 PM            

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Non - astro thoughts:

Just for the record, there are many, many ways people prostitute themselves. Stay in a marriage primarily because of the financial support? Work at a job you despise because you get paid well? Hang out with people you don't truly respect for status reasons? These are all ways we prostitute ourselves. And there are a thousand more.

What is the difference between paying for sex and having sex because it raises your self esteem? Or just because it feels good? People do that too. You give me this and I'll give you that. I see money as an energy just like everything else. I'm not saying that there's anything right or wrong about any of these choices because they are inevitably all choices/parts of our soul growth (in my opinion).

Really just making the point that there are many ways to look at an issue.

Having said that, I do agree with what RegradsPlatero said about cheating spouses putting their partners at risk, but then that's a breach of the relationship on the spouse's part and whether they see a prostitute or meet a random person at a bar it amounts to the same thing. I agree that couples should be making every attempt to work through their issues together - not on the sly and not at the risk of their partner.

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posted May 30, 2012 05:53 PM            

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Amen. Also most of the time its the working girl who is putting herself at risk. If its just oral (done on him) then 99% of the risk is on her end.

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Both are put at risk alot of these men are having unprotected vaginal intercourse as well.GFE prostitutes do everything BB from what Ive been told.

posted May 30, 2012 06:06 PM            

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Not all energies mix – much like chemical substances..

There are many exchanges of energy that are considered immoral for one reason or another. For example - bestiality.
I know that morality is a relative matter and moral norms differ from society to society.. but at least in the Western world a majority of people would consider that exchange of energy immoral and abusive.

posted May 30, 2012 06:09 PM            

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I don't like sex being commercialized.

It's really just my personal opinion. I don't think too many people would agree. But I'd prefer for people to have sex and do sexual things for their own *enjoyment* and that of their partners.. and even that of onlookers - if that floats their boat..

But not for money.

I think commercializing sex makes it a "product" - as I said earlier.. and I see "sex" more on par with a *kind* of human2human relationship and connection -- rather than -- a product to be sold.

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