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Topic: venus-jupiter in synastry
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Xena
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posted September 15, 2013 03:38 PM
  
Since the Jupiter person gives most in this relationship to the Venus person , maybe the Jupiter person would be in love with Venus's beauty and grace and the Venus person would love the attention and the other stuff they get from Jupiter(not sure, just a suggestion).
With the hard aspects (square and maybe opposition) do you think it's possible that with time Venus could like all she gets from Jupiter and could end up taking advantage of Jupiter and with time this would turn into a superficial relationship (on Venus part). Maybe Jupiter would feel the only way he can keep Venus is by showering her with gifts and other benefits. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted December 26, 2013 04:58 AM
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Originally posted by Xena:
Since the Jupiter person gives most in this relationship to the Venus person , maybe the Jupiter person would be in love with Venus's beauty and grace and the Venus person would love the attention and the other stuff they get from Jupiter(not sure, just a suggestion).
With the hard aspects (square and maybe opposition) do you think it's possible that with time Venus could like all she gets from Jupiter and could end up taking advantage of Jupiter and with time this would turn into a superficial relationship (on Venus part). Maybe Jupiter would feel the only way he can keep Venus is by showering her with gifts and other benefits.
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posted December 26, 2013 05:29 AM
Both are benefics but Jupiter is the greater so it will give more. Jupiter is the guide or teacher to Venus and will forgive Venus for any foibles. Venus will love Jupiter for their generosity though. Philosophy of Jupiter will be valued by Venus. Being a conjunction means both good and bad so it will be the most positive connection out there that can be had as it is also between two benefics but as they are both good time planets, they will also do binging to the extreme.IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 26, 2013 05:39 AM
I have had this aspect with quite a few people. I was Jupiter. I kept giving and giving and all I received in return was NOTHING.
I won't make the same mistake again. I'm not Mother Teresa or Jesus.IP: Logged |
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posted December 26, 2013 05:41 AM
This is true Rosalind. I've been Jupiter and I give, give, give. All you can count on from Venus is pleasant interactions. That's why I said Jupiter gives more in the first response, it is after all the most generous of all planets.IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 26, 2013 05:43 AM
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This is true Rosalind. I've been Jupiter and I give, give, give. All you can count on from Venus is pleasant interactions. That's why I said Jupiter gives more in the first response, it is after all the most generous of all planets.
Oh, no. I DID receive something: A "I hate you and I wish you to DIE" Why? Because he thought I was friend with the love of his life. (I didnt even know he was in love with her. She didnt have the guts to tell me). IP: Logged |
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posted December 26, 2013 05:52 AM
Guy sounds screwed in the head to me.IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 26, 2013 05:58 AM
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Guy sounds screwed in the head to me.
He was/is obsessed with her. She didnt even like him. But in his obsession he thought I was a threat for him. That I would say something to her that would kill his chances. Like I said... I didnt even know she was " the one" in his head. We were just collegues. That was 6 years ago. Yet, it marked me probably forever. I ended up being the villain of the story and broken hearted and them being friends laughing at me about how stupid I was believing they could be good hearted people. She was cunning and cruel and he was a monster. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted December 26, 2013 06:00 AM
I do have one friend who's Jupiter conjuncts my Venus. Our friendship is not extraordinary in any way and he is far from being the most wonderful friend I've ever had. Our friendship is lackluster and boring.IP: Logged |
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posted December 26, 2013 06:01 AM
Well, rest assured, it sounds like it's not your fault. Better to know that they are your enemies, both of them, than live in a lie thinking they are your friends. I haven't been in exactly the same situation but I know what it feels like to be turned on by mutually friends. At least you can keep away from them.It's hard to say about the aspect though. I can say that I have had aspects that I have not felt. I'm not sure if it is that or other factors dominating in your synastry charts like 12th house overlays and Martian aspects. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 26, 2013 06:06 AM
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Well, rest assured, it sounds like it's not your fault. Better to know that they are your enemies, both of them, than live in a lie thinking they are your friends. I haven't been in exactly the same situation but I know what it feels like to be turned on by mutually friends. At least you can keep away from them.It's hard to say about the aspect though. I can say that I have had aspects that I have not felt. I'm not sure if it is that or other factors dominating in your synastry charts like 12th house overlays and Martian aspects.
He was not my friend. He was my BOYFRIEND. And she pretended to be my friend ( when in fact she was my rival) to gain information. She wanted to know his true intentions regarding her. She never saw him as a friend but as a threat, a stalker.
My fault or not...that experience was one of the experience that turned me into what I am today. A cold person and unpleasant person. IP: Logged |
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posted December 26, 2013 06:13 AM
Well, I misinterpreted the situation but my words still stand. Better that they are both out of your life. They deserve each other and probably will cheat on each other. Good riddance that they are gone, who knows what catastrophe would have befallen on you if you were still with him. I'm sorry about what happened. Hopefully, time will lessen the pain and you will find someone who is worthy of you.IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 26, 2013 06:20 AM
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Well, I misinterpreted the situation but my words still stand. Better that they are both out of your life. They deserve each other and probably will cheat on each other. Good riddance that they are gone, who knows what catastrophe would have befallen on you if you were still with him. I'm sorry about what happened. Hopefully, time will lessen the pain and you will find someone who is worthy of you.
Realistically speaking I don't think that person was born. I understoood much later that this guy was a karmic soulmate who entered in my life to teach me a lesson. I would have accept it if it was him alone. But his "alliance" with her was too cruel and painful. After that experience I thought I WAS unworthy of someone. Killed everything good that was in me until that point.
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posted December 26, 2013 06:26 AM
When did this all happen?I'm not a believer in karma as such but there are many karmic partners out there, some good and some bad. I don't feel I am being sensitive enough with you and I am sorry about that, but time goes on. The wounds will always be there unfortunately but hopefully, the pain will lessen through other circumstances in life and meeting other people. I'm sure there are people out there karmic or not that will give you a positive lesson. As I've said in other posts, you are your best friend, you have to pick yourself up and carry on, no one else will do it for you. Again, I'm sorry if I am insensitive. IP: Logged |
next to neptune
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posted December 26, 2013 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
He was not my friend. He was my BOYFRIEND. And she pretended to be my friend ( when in fact she was my rival) to gain information. She wanted to know his true intentions regarding her. She never saw him as a friend but as a threat, a stalker.
My fault or not...that experience was one of the experience that turned me into what I am today. A cold person and unpleasant person.
Everyone experience things like these, and it will make a mark on your soul, but don't forget there is nice people too. I know we had a bit of a fight in a previous thread, but I'm sorry to hear about your story, it makes me understand a lot about where you come from IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 26, 2013 06:45 AM
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When did this all happen?I'm not a believer in karma as such but there are many karmic partners out there, some good and some bad. I don't feel I am being sensitive enough with you and I am sorry about that, but time goes on. The wounds will always be there unfortunately but hopefully, the pain will lessen through other circumstances in life and meeting other people. I'm sure there are people out there karmic or not that will give you a positive lesson. As I've said in other posts, you are your best friend, you have to pick yourself up and carry on, no one else will do it for you. Again, I'm sorry if I am insensitive.
In 2007. I was in my second year in Uni and this guy and I had classes together. I liked him very much but I knew (according to his friends) he liked someone else. Nobody wanted to tell me who that person was and I didnt care either because I said : I pass. I didnt want an unavailable guy. Yet, although single, his friends pressured him (without my knownledge) to give me a chance. They wanted me to get him rid of his virginity. I never knew about this "plan" of his friends. I did found out later after the break up that his friends wanted to make him an item with another girl only for this purpose. Because the relatoonship didnt last more than a few days ( he said he can't be in a relationship with anyone but her) and because he didnt like me, his friends plan failed and of course they hated ME. They thought I was unworthy of their friend. Then the "alliance" happened, the bad words about me and towards me, his "sweet" words left in a message.
She was LOVED by everyone in that class. She was pretty, she was lovely, she was smiling and natural. I wasn't smiling (without a reason), I was wearing make up and not shy as he would have liked. According to him, she was the best person in this world. I wasn't because I didnt smile and I wasn't timid. The story ended in July 2009 when I graduated.
After that I needed almost 4 years to recover, yet it was in vain. I am not the person I used to be. Cheerful, kind etc. Nope. My self esteem in non existent, I don't trust people anymore, especially men and the light in my soul is gone. I used to see only good in people. I thought people where kind and nice. That they wouldn't hurt other people in such cruel way. I was wrong and from that moment on I became a different person. I don't think I hate anyone but surely I don't trust anymore and cannot love anymore.
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Rosalind
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posted December 26, 2013 06:49 AM
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Everyone experience things like these, and it will make a mark on your soul, but don't forget there is nice people too. I know we had a bit of a fight in a previous thread, but I'm sorry to hear about your story, it makes me understand a lot about where you come from
Thank you.
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posted December 26, 2013 06:58 AM
That sounds bad, Rosalind. Was this the guy that dumped you through his friends that you mentioned on the dumping post? I was horrified when I read that. It sounds terrible, a nasty set up. I've never been in that situation but had a similar situation but I know what it feels like to be dumped on by popular person at work, who indeed took all the glories.I'm sorry, it is a rough world, people are mean and they are self-interested. You say you are mean but that is because you are hurt. I think you just have to be careful with people, that's all. I'm guarded and distant because of my experience too. What happened to me wrecked my career subconsciously and I don't trust anyone either now but there is nothing I can do or you can do, the situation has happened. The best is to try and break contact with these people and rebuild yourself. Don't get angry with yourself for giving, you weren't to to know what was to happen. Life changes a lot, it gives you lots of situations and new circumstances. You have to simply carry on. As I've said, I'm glad he's out of your life. He's even more pathetic as he is a puppet of his friends'. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 26, 2013 07:06 AM
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That sounds bad, Rosalind. Was this the guy that dumped you through his friends that you mentioned on the dumping post? I was horrified when I read that. It sounds terrible, a nasty set up. I've never been in that situation but had a similar situation but I know what it feels like to be dumped on by popular person at work, who indeed took all the glories.I'm sorry, it is a rough world, people are mean and they are self-interested. You say you are mean but that is because you are hurt. I think you just have to be careful with people, that's all. I'm guarded and distant because of my experience too. What happened to me wrecked my career subconsciously but there is nothing I can do or you can do, the situation has happened. The best is to try and break contact with these people and rebuild yourself. Don't get angry with yourself for giving, you weren't to to know what was to happen. Life changes a lot, it gives you lots of situations and new circumstances. You have to simply carry on. As I've said, I'm glad he's out of your life. He's even more pathetic as he is a puppet of his friends'.
No. It wasnt the same guy but the situation was the same.
This happened in 2005-2006. I met this guy through some "friends". I though he was nice and kind. He had a girlfriend before me but it wasn't something serious according to his sister. With the help of his sister we become an item but AGAIN his friends didnt like me. They thought I was ugly and I was going to "steal" him from them. We broke up a week later because he chose his friends over me. Practically he didnt mind breaking up with me because he was more interested in games than girls. A week later I found out that wasn't true. He became the boyfriend of a girl he thought she was his "happiness". They broke up a week later because she was intersted in her acting career not him. I saw him a month ago in the mall selling stuff. He looked miserable. When I met him he was a cheerful person, a Peter Pan. Now he looked older and with no expression on his face. The pattern seems to never end. Its the same script with different cast. If his friends or family doesn't like you you are doomed because they make the rule in his life. I happen to give up on love and friends and on everything that seems good for others. To me there is no good. Never been. It doesn't matter if karma strike them or not (that's not my wish) what does matter if the impact these experiences had over my life. I stopped believing in good and nice things. People to me are the same. I don't trust them. I don't trust their intentions. After so many experiences (all bad) I have become more guarded and even paranoid. IP: Logged |
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posted December 26, 2013 07:10 AM
Sorry Rosalind again. I've had a friend of Mr 23s wedge me out so I know how that feels.It's best that you're not with them. I'm sorry but I have to go to bed. Hard day tomorrow. Stay well as you can, Rosalind. Good night. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 26, 2013 07:13 AM
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Sorry Rosalind again. I've had a friend of Mr 23s wedge me out so I know how that feels.It's best that you're not with them. I'm sorry but I have to go to bed. Hard day tomorrow. Stay well as you can, Rosalind. Good night.
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next to neptune
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posted December 26, 2013 07:17 AM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Thank you.
You're welcome!
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crabbypatty
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posted December 26, 2013 09:40 PM
Rosalind you've been through a lot and now you're more realistic about what some people are capable of...unspeakable cruelty...or caving in because of family or friends...its called chickensh.t syndrome. Trust me, I am no pollyana... I know how relationships can end up and have had my fair share of trouble. However please please don't let yourself believe that love is not for you. If you let these experiences make you so emotionally hard you might end up failing the karmic tests and wasting this lifetime. There are actually good and sincere people out there.IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 27, 2013 01:36 AM
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Rosalind you've been through a lot and now you're more realistic about what some people are capable of...unspeakable cruelty...or caving in because of family or friends...its called chickensh.t syndrome. Trust me, I am no pollyana... I know how relationships can end up and have had my fair share of trouble. However please please don't let yourself believe that love is not for you. If you let these experiences make you so emotionally hard you might end up failing the karmic tests and wasting this lifetime. There are actually good and sincere people out there.
This lifetime is already wasted. Its my last one also. I gave up everything. I had big dreams but apparently those no matter. I lost. I failed the karmic tests. My family won, my so called friends and my enemies. I am tired to hope I will be some day loved because that never happened. My family doesn't love me why should I expect love to come from strangers. My fate is to remain alone. Alone I was all my life. In other people eyes I was no good. There was someone better than me. Prettier, nicer, smarter. I was just an idiot and a burden.
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted December 27, 2013 02:00 AM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by crabbypatty:
[b]Rosalind you've been through a lot and now you're more realistic about what some people are capable of...unspeakable cruelty...or caving in because of family or friends...its called chickensh.t syndrome. Trust me, I am no pollyana... I know how relationships can end up and have had my fair share of trouble. However please please don't let yourself believe that love is not for you. If you let these experiences make you so emotionally hard you might end up failing the karmic tests and wasting this lifetime. There are actually good and sincere people out there.
This lifetime is already wasted. Its my last one also. I gave up everything. I had big dreams but apparently those no matter. I lost. I failed the karmic tests. My family won, my so called friends and my enemies. I am tired to hope I will be some day loved because that never happened. My family doesn't love me why should I expect love to come from strangers. My fate is to remain alone. Alone I was all my life. In other people eyes I was no good. There was someone better than me. Prettier, nicer, smarter. I was just an idiot and a burden.[/B][/QUOTE]Don't you have Venus square Saturn? Be careful not to get depressed. I know how it can be with this aspect. Things will get better. IP: Logged |
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