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Rosalind
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posted December 27, 2013 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Don't you have Venus square Saturn? Be careful not to get depressed. I know how it can be with this aspect. Things will get better.

I have Venus square Saturn. I am already depressed. I spent the worst Christmas of my life. All my life has been like that. Please, don't tell me things will get better since they NEVER got better. I went to the psychologist a few years back. Do you know what she told me? Its my fault that people treat me the way they treat me. In her opinion I deserve to be unloved, emotionally abusive and so on. Life is hard. Love isnt for everyone.
I went to a priest. Do you know what he told me? That I deserve to be hated and being pitied by my family. I deserve to be unloved. In his opinion asking for some love is selfish. I must love always even if I am not loved. Otherwise how I am gonna go to Heaven? Question is: When did I say my purpose is to go to Heaven? I went to him to give me some comfort, some hope to keep going. And what I received in return? NOTHING. So please, don't tell me things will get better. They won't.

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posted December 27, 2013 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
I have Venus square Saturn. I am already depressed. I spent the worst Christmas of my life. All my life has been like that. Please, don't tell me things will get better since they NEVER got better. I went to the psychologist a few years back. Do you know what she told me? Its my fault that people treat me the way they treat me. In her opinion I deserve to be unloved, emotionally abusive and so on. Life is hard. Love isnt for everyone.
I went to a priest. Do you know what he told me? That I deserve to be hated and being pitied by my family. I deserve to be unloved. In his opinion asking for some love is selfish. I must love always even if I am not loved. Otherwise how I am gonna go to Heaven? Question is: When did I say my purpose is to go to Heaven? I went to him to give me some comfort, some hope to keep going. And what I received in return? NOTHING. So please, don't tell me things will get better. They won't.


They can if you find inner peace. That's what helped me.

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posted December 27, 2013 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rosalind:
[b] I have Venus square Saturn. I am already depressed. I spent the worst Christmas of my life. All my life has been like that. Please, don't tell me things will get better since they NEVER got better. I went to the psychologist a few years back. Do you know what she told me? Its my fault that people treat me the way they treat me. In her opinion I deserve to be unloved, emotionally abusive and so on. Life is hard. Love isnt for everyone.
I went to a priest. Do you know what he told me? That I deserve to be hated and being pitied by my family. I deserve to be unloved. In his opinion asking for some love is selfish. I must love always even if I am not loved. Otherwise how I am gonna go to Heaven? Question is: When did I say my purpose is to go to Heaven? I went to him to give me some comfort, some hope to keep going. And what I received in return? NOTHING. So please, don't tell me things will get better. They won't.


They can if you find inner peace. That's what helped me.[/B][/QUOTE]

Inner peace? Don't make me laugh. What inner peace? Do you know what other people do if they are like me or in my case? They kill themselves because they cannot stand the idea of not being at least appreciated for who they are and what they do. They feel worthless and unworthy of life. If helped you, good for you. That's not everyone's case.

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posted December 27, 2013 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Inner peace? Don't make me laugh. What inner peace? Do you know what other people do if they are like me or in my case? They kill themselves because they cannot stand the idea of not being at least appreciated for who they are and what they do. They feel worthless and unworthy of life. If helped you, good for you. That's not everyone's case.

There's also anti depressants. It's your state of mind, Rosalind. You cannot see the way your thinking is warped at the moment. It's because you are depressed.
I know you have experienced disappointment and loss. I have, too. You can control your mind and how it affects you by seeing beauty in your life regardless, by observing the miracles around you and being grateful to be alive to observe them.

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posted December 27, 2013 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rosalind:
[b] Inner peace? Don't make me laugh. What inner peace? Do you know what other people do if they are like me or in my case? They kill themselves because they cannot stand the idea of not being at least appreciated for who they are and what they do. They feel worthless and unworthy of life. If helped you, good for you. That's not everyone's case.


There's also anti depressants. It's your state of mind, Rosalind. You cannot see the way your thinking is warped at the moment. It's because you are depressed.
I know you have experienced disappointment and loss. I have, too. You can control your mind and how it affects you by seeing beauty in your life regardless, by observing the miracles around you and being grateful to be alive to observe them.[/B][/QUOTE]

Depressed or not I see now things the way they truly are. I see people now the way they are. I have loved everyone and always saw ONLY the good in them. Since I was a little girl I thought people were kind and nice. Guess what? That's not true. They killed everything that was good in me and they opened my eyes. I lost my trust in people, I lost my faitth and I stopped hoping. I had wishes. I had dreams. I asked for so little that I couldn't believe it when ironically the people who were cruel to me received it. My enemies have a job, love, friends. Unlike my friends or family, I never wanted money. I wanted friends, love and a stupid job.
A former "friend" who managed to make people believe that I was the worst person in this world she's now working on one of the greatest airlines. She has a job, friends and a boyfriend. If is fair? Sure it is. Stupid people like me don't get anything. Smart people like her do.

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posted December 27, 2013 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Depressed or not I see now things the way they truly are. I see people now the way they are. I have loved everyone and always saw ONLY the good in them. Since I was a little girl I thought people were kind and nice. Guess what? That's not true. They killed everything that was good in me and they opened my eyes. I lost my trust in people, I lost my faitth and I stopped hoping. I had wishes. I had dreams. I asked for so little that I couldn't believe it when ironically the people who were cruel to me received it. My enemies have a job, love, friends. Unlike my friends or family, I never wanted money. I wanted friends, love and a stupid job.
A former "friend" who managed to make people believe that I was the worst person in this world she's now working on one of the greatest airlines. She has a job, friends and a boyfriend. If is fair? Sure it is. Stupid people like me don't get anything. Smart people like her do.


We are all here for different reasons, Rosalind. It's best to not compare yourself to others and not think about people who depress you. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. Train your mind not to dwell on what you find unpleasant or upsetting and focus on what you find enjoyable. I am not making light of your situation, I know it all too well. I have an extraordinarily successful pair of cousins who drive brand new BMWs so I know it can be tough with over achievers in your life. You are here to be more spiritual, Rosalind, and kinder. You are here to connect with spirit and to see a more subtle side of life that so many are not in tune with. You can turn inward and gain wisdom that can lead others in the right direction. Focus on others without thinking of yourself. You can find peace in that.

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posted December 27, 2013 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rosalind:
[b] Depressed or not I see now things the way they truly are. I see people now the way they are. I have loved everyone and always saw ONLY the good in them. Since I was a little girl I thought people were kind and nice. Guess what? That's not true. They killed everything that was good in me and they opened my eyes. I lost my trust in people, I lost my faitth and I stopped hoping. I had wishes. I had dreams. I asked for so little that I couldn't believe it when ironically the people who were cruel to me received it. My enemies have a job, love, friends. Unlike my friends or family, I never wanted money. I wanted friends, love and a stupid job.
A former "friend" who managed to make people believe that I was the worst person in this world she's now working on one of the greatest airlines. She has a job, friends and a boyfriend. If is fair? Sure it is. Stupid people like me don't get anything. Smart people like her do.


We are all here for different reasons, Rosalind. It's best to not compare yourself to others and not think about people who depress you. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. Train your mind not to dwell on what you find unpleasant or upsetting and focus on what you find enjoyable. I am not making light of your situation, I know it all too well. I have an extraordinarily successful pair of cousins who drive brand new BMWs so I know it can be tough with over achievers in your life. You are here to be more spiritual, Rosalind, and kinder. You are here to connect with spirit and to see a more subtle side of life that so many are not in tune with. You can turn inward and gain wisdom that can lead others in the right direction. Focus on others without thinking of yourself. You can find peace in that. [/B][/QUOTE]

I don't have the energy to compare myself with others. I am not interested anymore in being kinder, nicer or spiritual. At age 41 I will die. So there is no much time left for me and being trapped in my parents house will make my end come sooner. Not that I care anymore. To me everything is done. If I go to Hell or Heaven I don't care. That's not what I wished for me. God has forgotten me. That is the truth. My prayers were never listened. When I asked God to end my pain he gave more. Great isnt it?

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posted December 27, 2013 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
I don't have the energy to compare myself with others. I am not interested anymore in being kinder, nicer or spiritual. At age 41 I will die. So there is no much time left for me and being trapped in my parents house will make my end come sooner. Not that I care anymore. To me everything is done. If I go to Hell or Heaven I don't care. That's not what I wished for me. God has forgotten me. That is the truth. My prayers were never listened. When I asked God to end my pain he gave more. Great isnt it?

It's about your life now, Rosalind. It's important to live in the moment. See, you are are falling into these psychological traps and they are keeping you mired in something that's not comfortable. Your state of mind is not a pleasant place for you at the moment.
You can find a nicer state of mind if you try.

Don't dwell on anything you dislike.
Live in the moment.
No comparing yourself to others.
Think of your special gifts and abilities and how they might be helpful to others.

And most important, LISTEN to people who have your best interests at heart.

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posted December 27, 2013 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
It's about your life now, Rosalind. It's important to live in the moment. See, you are are falling into these psychological traps and they are keeping you mired in something that's not comfortable. Your state of mind is not a pleasant place for you at the moment.
You can find a nicer state of mind if you try.

Don't dwell on anything you dislike.
Live in the moment.
No comparing yourself to others.
Think of your special gifts and abilities and how they might be helpful to others.

And most important, LISTEN to people who have your best interests at heart.


NOBODY have my best interests at heart. Its not about dwelling. Its about seeing things as they truly are. No more fantasies.

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posted December 27, 2013 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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NOBODY have my best interests at heart. Its not about dwelling. Its about seeing things as they truly are. No more fantasies.

There are people who do, like me, for instance

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posted December 27, 2013 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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There are people who do, like me, for instance

Thank you for your good intentions. I appreciate.

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posted December 27, 2013 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And me ...big fan of your incisive comments and knowledge ...would love to meet you irl ...

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posted December 27, 2013 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And me ...big fan of your incisive comments and knowledge ...would love to meet you irl ...

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I have met someone with Venus conjunct Jupiter double whammy..

It's feels really nice like babies blooming in a field of kittens. lol

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posted July 10, 2016 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you think this would be an important aspect to have in synastry or composite. I don't know why but I really like this aspect.

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posted July 10, 2016 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the double whammy conjunction with my brother (under 3°), as well as the conjunction in the composite, and the Davison. We don't get along, at all. I haven't seen him in about 3 years and I probably never will see him again, and honestly, I'm ok with that. I don't remember having too many jovial or happy moments with him. We just didn't have that kind of relationship.

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posted July 10, 2016 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.

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