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Topic: Venus conjunct Juno or Venus conjunct chiron in synastry?
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angel100
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posted May 09, 2010 03:22 PM
  
Which of these aspects would be better in a couples synastry?Her venus conjunct his chiron (in gemini orb 11 degrees) OR Her Juno conjunct his venus (in scorpio, exact orb) The guy is the same in both scenarios just two different women. Whats your opinions? IP: Logged |
DD
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posted May 09, 2010 03:41 PM
An orb of 11 degrees? With a centaur? Are you serious?  IP: Logged |
angel100
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posted May 09, 2010 03:43 PM
I take it I shouldn't even count that aspect then as 11 degrees is too wide an orb?? lolIP: Logged |
ohmybaby
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posted May 09, 2010 03:56 PM
Great topic I must say ! I hope someone pops in soon. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted May 09, 2010 04:08 PM
I have my Venus conjunct a girlfriends Chiron (exact)
This relationship is a healing gift from God to me.
That is the only way I can explain it.
If you could allow me to pose something else, I would appreciate it.
My Mothers Sun is exactly on MY Chiron and she almost destroyed me.
I don't get Chiron.
Does anyone understand the explanation behind that??
Thanks so much Ami IP: Logged |
ohmybaby
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posted May 09, 2010 04:11 PM
If you don't get something right now, you will get it in time. All in good time. IP: Logged |
belgz
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posted May 09, 2010 04:17 PM
My mothers venus is conjunct my chiron too and she destroyed me.Her chiron is trine my sun and mercury too. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted May 09, 2010 04:23 PM
Maybe you have to look the the nature of the relationship like the Mother should be the giver(The Chiron) not the taker( the other planet)
OK--- that makes sense about your mother's Venus trying to get YOUR Chiron to heal HER.
That is what *I* had, too, with my Mother's sun.
I don't understand the trine though cuz that should be mutually beneficial.
Wouldn't you think????
There must be an explanation somewhere.
With my girlfriend, I feel she really heals me but she is uplifted by the friendship, too,so it is mutually beneficial. x o x Ami IP: Logged |
amowls*
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posted May 09, 2010 04:34 PM
Well, if the Venus/Chiron orb is 11 degrees, Juno exact conjunct Venus is DEFINITELY more significant lol.In general, that is a tough question. Both represent different energies and dynamics, and I don't really focus on Chiron or Juno at all when looking at synastry. IP: Logged |
angel100
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posted May 09, 2010 04:37 PM
Which of these aspects would be best in a romantic setting? the juno venus contact or the chiron venus???IP: Logged |
ohmybaby
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posted May 09, 2010 04:45 PM
I am glad to hear its good for both. IP: Logged |
racole12
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posted May 10, 2010 01:54 AM
I'm curious about this also...I have a Mars conj Juno in my relationship (less than a degree)... I'm the female/Juno... IP: Logged |
Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted May 10, 2010 07:22 AM
the juno linkages are good for sex not for long term committment. IP: Logged |
comica23
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posted May 10, 2010 07:41 AM
Why is Juno related to sex and not commitment? Juno represents commitment after all.I have Juno conjunct my bf's Venus, and his Juno conjunct my Moon. We also have Juno conjunct Venus/Mars and oppose Jupiter in the composite. In my experience, I can relate our feelings of commitment with these Juno aspects rather than sex affair feelings. IP: Logged |
DD
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posted May 10, 2010 08:44 AM
WEll, if you believe Magi astrology, Juno is uncommitted sexual attraction.If you do astrology on the basis of the underlying mythological themes, Juno is of course also a sign of commitment (among others). I guess it`s everyone`s own pick, what he believes is working. IP: Logged |
angel100
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posted May 10, 2010 10:10 AM
Im hoping that juno means more than just no strings attached sex....I don't know whether to believe magi or not..after all they tried to pin the blame on juno for prince charles not making an honest woman of camilla parker bowles and then what happened?? They got married..with tons of juno linkages?? They proved magi wrong.IP: Logged |
comica23
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posted May 10, 2010 10:26 AM
One thing that I think that we should be careful is that we might sometimes be able to identify ourselves or our situations with certain descriptions about certain aspects, yet the manifestations might not always come from the aspects that were described.For example, some people might feel that the "sexual affair" description about Juno aspects seems to describe their relationship dynamics, but this "sexual affair" dynamic might actually come from other synastry/composite aspects (like Eros aspects or others). To check if certain relationship dynamics really "belong" to certain aspects, we have to see if those particular dynamics really matches the symbolism of the aspects. IP: Logged |
racole12
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posted May 10, 2010 01:36 PM
comica I agree with you...I have tight juno connections with 3 people I love. one is a friend, one is a family member and one is a lover. They all have been in my life for longer than 10 yrs. I completely agree that one connection can't make or break you and how much magi makes everything sound so simple I have found their theories to not work on the people I have tested it on. And all of them have been married 15-35 years. But I do think the use of delineations is quite neat. IP: Logged |
racole12
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posted May 10, 2010 03:21 PM
I decided to look at 2 more couples and their Juno connections, since Juno is getting such a bad rap... One couple has been married for 35 yrs and the other 40.Couple 1: married 40 yrs Her Juno opposite his Merc (his 7th house ruler)
Her Juno square his Pluto (his 11th house ruler) His Juno square her Mars (8th house ruler)
His Juno square her venus (5th house ruler) Couple 2: married 35 yrs Their Junos are squared each other Her Juno conj his Mars (ruler of his chart) His Juno conj her Jupiter (ruler of the 5th)
His Juno square her Venus (ruler of her 3rd/10th)
Well, I'm going to throw in a 3rd couple: married 33 yrs...
Her Juno conj his Pluto (ruler of his chart) His Juno conj her MC
His Juno opposite her Venus (ruler of her 7th/2nd) What I have learned from this Juno doesn't effect length of relationships- as in how short the relationship is and it seems like Juno only likes hard aspects... my 2 cents...
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joyrjw
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posted November 23, 2010 06:30 PM
I know two people who I have had lasting relationships with who I have strong Juno,Vertex,Chiron ties with. 1st person:
His:Sun Square Vx
Venus trine NN and Juno
Jupiter Square NN and Juno
Saturn Square Chiron
Uranus trine Chiron
Pluto trine Chiron
NN square Sun
NN trine Chiron
NN sextile Juno
NN sextile Ascendant
Chiron trine Ascendant and Conjunct Midheaven
Chiron opp Moon
Chiron Square Mercury
Chiron sextile Venus
Chiron Square Mars and Jupiter
Chiron trine Uranus and Square Neptune
Chiron trine NN
Chiron Sextile Juno
Vertex Sextile Sun
Vertex sesquiquadrate Moon
Vertex Sextile Mars
Vertex Trine Jupiter
Vertex Square NN,Chiron,and Juno
Juno Trine Mercury
Juno Square Venus
Juno Trine Mars
Juno sesquiquadrate Vertex
Juno Square Ascendant
Me:Sun Square NN and sextile Vertex
Moon opposite Chiron and sesquiquadrate Vertex
Mercury square NN and Chiron
Mercury trine Juno
Venus trine NN, sextile Chiron, and Square Juno
Mars Square NN,Square Chiron and trine Juno,sextile Vertex
Jupiter Square NN, Square Chiron,trine Vertex
Uranus Quintile NN
Uranus trine Chiron
Neptune Square Chiron
Pluto Semi Square NN
NN trine Venus, Square Jupiter, Trine Chiron,Square Vertex
NN sextile Asc
Chiron trine Ascendant
Chiron square Jupiter, Square Saturn
Chiron trine Neptune, trine Pluto, Trine NN
Chiron square Vertex
MC conjunct Chiron and trine Midheaven
Vertex square Sun,Square Mercury,
Vertex sesquiquadrate Juno
Vertex Quintile Ascendant
Juno trine Venus
Juno square Jupiter
Juno sextile North Node
Juno trine Chiron
Juno Square Vertex
Juno Sextile Ascendant
Person 2:
Him:
Mercury biquintile North Node
Mercury SemiSextile Chiron
Mercury biquintile Juno
Venus conjunct Chiron
Mars sesquiquadrate Chiron
Jupiter quincunx Chiron
Saturn conjunct Chiron
Uranus semi square Vertex
Neptune quincunx Chiron
Pluto biquintile Chiron
NN trine Mercury,square Venus, trine Mars,Sesquiquadrate Vertex
NN square Asc
Chiron trine Sun,trine Mercury
Chiron square Venus, trine Mars
Chiron sesquiquadrate Saturn,biquintile Uranus,trine Neptune
Chiron quincunx NN
Chiron quincunx Juno and Ascendant
Vertex conjunct Venus
Vertex biquintile Jupiter,sextile North Node and trine Chiron
Vertex semi square Vertex and sextile Juno
Vertex opposite Ascendant
Juno trine Moon
Juno semi square Venus,sesquiquadrate Jupiter,semi sextile Neptune, square Pluto
Juno sextile Vertex
Juno sextile MC
Ascendant trine Chiron
MC opposite Vertex
My chart to his:
Sun trine Chiron
Moon trine Juno
Mercury trine NN and Chiron
Venus square NN,Square Chiron,conjunct Vertex
Mars trine NN,trine Chiron,Semi Square Juno
Jupiter biquintile Vertex and Sesquiquadrate Juno
Saturn sesqui. Chiron
Uranus biquintile Chiron
Neptune trine Chiron and semi sextile Juno
Pluto square Juno
NN biquintile Mercury,NN quincunx Chiron,sextile Vertex
Chiron semi sextile Mercury,Chiron conjunct Venus, Chiron sesqui Mars, Chiron quincunx Jupiter, Chiron conjunct Saturn, Chiron quincunx Neptune
Chiron biquintile Neptune
Chiron trine Vertex
Chiron trine Ascendant
Vertex semi square Uranus
Vertex sesqui NN
Vertex Semi square Vertex
Vertex sextile Juno
Vertex opposite MC
Ascendant Square NN
Ascendant Square Chiron
Ascendant Opposite Vertex
MC sextile Juno
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virgo18
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posted May 31, 2011 08:55 AM
Hi EveryoneI am a newbie to this site and to Astrology so any help would be much Appreciated. For The last year i have been very attracted to a man who is a taurus sun/ Gemini rising and leo moon, Mercury and venus in Aries.
Myself Virgo sun/ taurus moon, venus and rising Scorpio, Mercury virgo.
My Chiron conjuncts his venus and my juno is in taurus as well as my seventh house.
I would love to here what you think of this pairing. I went throught a very bad relationship with my ex husband and i don't want to make the same mistake again. ( saggittarius). Many Thanks.
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Doreen
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posted May 31, 2011 09:06 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Ann:
My Mothers Sun is exactly on MY Chiron and she almost destroyed me.
I'm sorry to hear that Ami Anne quote:
Originally posted by belgz:
My mothers venus is conjunct my chiron too and she destroyed me.Her chiron is trine my sun and mercury too.
Aww I remember this Beautiful Girl it's sad that she got banned from the forum  IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted June 02, 2011 12:29 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Ann:
I have my Venus conjunct a girlfriends Chiron (exact)
This relationship is a healing gift from God to me.
That is the only way I can explain it.
If you could allow me to pose something else, I would appreciate it.
My Mothers Sun is exactly on MY Chiron and she almost destroyed me.
I don't get Chiron.
Does anyone understand the explanation behind that??
Thanks so much Ami
Reading you has made me think. Perhaps this is the thing we need to understand about Chiron. Chiron is the archetype of the wounded healer, so one seem to experience interactions with other's Chirons as either healing or wounding. And let's keep in mind that for healing to happen through surgery, you have to be cut open first, so perhaps sometimes, Chiron thinks it can perform emotional surgery on people in a misguided attempt to heal them, and the pain is so great that the person experiences the interraction as an attempt at destruction. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted June 02, 2011 12:43 AM
Another thing to keep in mind is, what aspects are made to the natal chiron in a person's chart? For quite a few decades, Chiron was opposed by Neptune, Uranus and Pluto. I think that people born with afflicted Chirons are not able to heal others or heal themselves through Chiron, and in frustration, they use their Chiron to wound others. It's not even done consciously, it's a deep subterrannean process. IP: Logged |
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