posted May 27, 2010 12:32 PM              

yes!

it is when i talked about ormus.one who isnt ready shouldnt take what cant understand.

posted May 27, 2010 02:19 PM            

" am getting a little flustered with these know-it all lecturing New Agers who seem to act like they are the ones with the truth and nobody else does!"
I understand that you feel that way.

I know (or hope) that it is all with good intent, but sometimes the enthusiasm, passion and conviction of something can make people appear as if they will only allow their own perspective, their own truth, without giving other`s perspective "breathing space".
But I think, at least in Diandra`s case, that it it`s all just born from an enthusiastic passion for what she believes in.

But yes, I noticed, too, that metaphysical oriented people can sometimes get just as judgemental (even if uwillingly and unknowingly) as those who damn astrology and metaphysics as silly crap.

Personally I think that each of us seeks to get an understanding of the world around us and inside of us, and each of us can only do that from their own perspective.
That makes it sometimes difficult to accept that another one may have a different perspective, maybe seens a different piece of the puzzle, from a different angle.

I try to remain open to all sides (unless they involve harming anyone in any way).

To me it, in the last step, is not so much important to prove that reincarnation exists or Star Seeds are real, because I think the good it can do lies in the personal growth of each person.
If the belief in reincarnation or Stars Seeds triggers that growth, or if it is through religion or even through science or reflecting about society, doesn´t really matter that much to me. The important thing is THAT people grow.

Of course that is just my perspective.
And I sometimes think humankind needs "labels" or "definitions", because we are just so used to think in "categories". Usually categories of polarity: Metaphysic vs science for example (personally I don`t think that those exclude each other; different sides - same coin).

OH and for the record I believe in reincarnation.

posted May 27, 2010 03:01 PM              

Of course i wasnt trying to harm or cause anyone to be offended.you know me.

if i sounded judgmental im sorry,but i am not that type of person that Glaucus says i am,nor ORBm too.

and im sorry that here in LL people start to be offended with things that dont even exist.

i am passionate whenever i try to show my ideals,what i believe in but my 12thMerc might not help that much on that.

now,i am a person that welcomes all perspectives and not for a second i offended Glaucus in any way.i dont know where that came from really.

the point is that whenever someone deffends their own perspective here,and another person disagree,that can be done with respect,education and understanding for each other´s limits.

but that didnt happened here.

posted May 27, 2010 03:24 PM            

Those who KNOW, KNOW where others are on their path. Everyone is seeded with their OWN path and map of development and the unfolding of veils/petals or growth is also determined by our free will choices. It is simply the spiritual duty of those ahead to gently guide those behind. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

Anna sparks Bobby and Bobby sparks Carl and Carl sparks Debrah and so on and so on. The wheel is round, life is cyclic, and the universe is energy in motion. LOVE is Energy in motion. Unconditional Love, the highest form begins with our Self-acceptance and true Self-knowledge

Everyone one of us alive is guiding just by our being alive. The question that remains is how does each one of us guide? Are we a living example of love we wish to give and receive. Are we the real deal, in the most perfected state? How many do you personally know that have attained? It doesn't really matter because that is the ultimate goal for ALL souls. Is this not the highest purpose of Astrological guidance, to help us navigate the rough seas and to acknowledge that a higher power controls the waters.

Our Ego and senses like to seek out the differences, all fine and dandy, the next step is to find the similarities and UNITE the oppositions, collapsing the duality, ending the battles, the wars, to dominate one another. (the answer lies within - Dominate - I tame a demon)

No I am not perfected and I have not yet attained and I continue to tame my own demons and I continue to seek and learn.

Good points DD. Never forget to flip the coin to know it's true worth.

posted May 27, 2010 03:33 PM            

no need to keep your thoughts to yourself.

I think it`s things like these:

"only those who started to read more about that,like me,and that choosed to,in a moment discover more what is truth and not,like being aware that this is a matrix etc...only then could we really feel that what you say it is the truth."

that can lead into these discussions about truth and judgementalism.

I know that you believe that, it`s your truth, but for someone who doesn´t share this belief it *could* sound a bit condescending, as if just because they don`t share this belief, they might be thought of as "being distant from truth".

The thing is the belief that there is a matrix and that you have to read about it to get to the truth, is not a fact, it`s a thesis, the expression of your belief.
It`s your truth, and it may be IQ`s and ORBM`S, but it may not be everyone`s truth.
Of course you are convinced of it, otherwise it wouldn´t be your truth.
But anyway all I wanted to say is that saying something like this, especially with the inclusion of a "conditional sentence", only if you do this or that, you can get to the truth, could easily be (mis)understood as judgemental or demanding. Cause if you reverse the sentence, then you get: If you don`t read about the matrix, you will never understand the truth.

But a sentence like this assumes that truth is something fixed, factual, something that is the same for everyone.
But as truth is formed by our own beliefs and perceptions, it is very unique, and probably different for many people.

Is there something like absolute truth?
Maybe.
But I don´t think we can grasp the concept.
Actually I personally believe that if we put all our different pieces of truth and perception of reality together, we maybe get closer to that ideal.

posted May 27, 2010 03:49 PM              

i know what you´re saying.

i might have used the wrong words yes.

what i didnt liked was the way glaucus treated me,cause i surely know who i am and how i was sincere and honest.i wasnt judging,or being condescendent torwards him,he just saw it that way and instantaneously,treated me like if i was someone i am not.

so,it was that and it is not the 1st time if eel this way here.

so that is why i stated to msyelf i will only share astrological beliefs from now on.

i respect all perspectives but im not here to be treated like that,just that.

posted May 27, 2010 08:23 PM            

Diandra,

That's just your perception,belief,opinion just like I had mine

You expressed your perception,belief,opinion first, and so I expressed mine in response to it

There is nothing wrong with that.

also I explained clearly what a neurodivergent is and that it is not something bad. It's a neutral label associated with an equal/civil rights movement for people with neurological/learning differences. I even explained about the concepts of "twice exceptional" and "gifted and disabled". Neurodivergents are known to be extreme machines in that they can be poor at one thing and great in another thing. Those things can balance each other out that they even appear average.

That's whole point of why I created the organization in the first place.

I didn't say anything extreme to you.

I just defended myself. I am very passionate when it comes to defending myself and others. That's what I am about. That's why I became a neurodiversity advocate and formed Developmental Neurodiversity Association.

I have that right to counter things that you say due to my disagreeing with them.

You didn't like the way I treated you, but I didn't like how you treated me before I responded in a way that you like how I treated you.

If you didn't treat me in a way that I didn't like, I wouldn't have defended myself in a way that rubbed you the wrong way which was not my intention.

If you want to express your truth, please remember that it's just your perception,opinion,and belief. Therefore, not everybody shares your perception,opinion,and belief.

That's why there are numerous different religions,spiritual traditions/beliefs on our planet. That's why there are even numerous different systems in the astrological field.
The Tower of Babel issue has been around for a very long time.

Diversity isn't the problem. Intolerance of Diversity is the problem.

That's what leads to bigotry,prejudice when it comes to religion/spirituality,race/ethnicity,gender,sexuality,neurological makeup.

It's always about what a person thinks is right for himself/herself as well as it being right for everybody else even though there are other right ways of believing,thinking,learning,practicing.

If everybody took that into consideration, we wouldn't have so much discord on our planet.

Too many people on this planet have that issue of thinking that they only have the truth and others don't. So many wars were fought because of that type of mentality.

According to the discoverer of transneptunian, dwarf planet Eris , Michael Brown

He thought Eris was the perfect name for the object. He said that mythological Eris made men quarrel and fight by making them think that their opinions are right and others are wrong.

Logically

I think of equality and diversity when it comes to Eris and not just controversy and discord. Of course, civil/equal rights and advocacy can also be keywords for Eris.

Equality,Diversity,Controversy,Discord,Civil/Equal Rights,and Advocacy are all connected.

All people have to do is think of things like Civil Rights Movement during the days of Jim Crow that restricted,limited blacks in the Southern USA, Women's Rights Movement, Homosexual Rights Movement,Homosexual Marriage Rights that many people disagreed with and fought over.

I repeat the following:

I am open to the possibility of this Star Seed stuff as well as metaphysical stuff in general, but I am not into claiming that I am one of those type because of my preferring a more practical approach to life. Of course, privacy is also a factor. We live in the days of both psychiatry and organized religion,and so that's another reason I'd be careful how I present myself.

At least I can pass off my interest in New Age/Metaphysical things as my just being unconventional,highly curious,looking at things from different angles,a belief that there is something that is beyond the physical, and being novelty-seeker.

instead of some Starseed,Indigo/Crystal,or some placement/aspects in my chart

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Raymond

Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted May 28, 2010 01:50 AM            

is there some Eris-aspect going currently again?

Diandra,

posted May 28, 2010 02:21 AM            

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Raymond

Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind.

posted May 28, 2010 02:47 AM            

makes sense somehow.

posted May 28, 2010 04:32 AM              

I signed up to the website sot hat I could read everything. I like it BTW but I do have a question & I pray that you could steer me in the right direction astrologically speaking.

As I filled in the reg form I saw the section that refers to Origin. We are given an option of the following;

Sirian Pleiadian Arcturian Lyran/Vegan Pvilan Orion Andromedan Tau Cetian Alpha Centarian Appollonian Universal Terran(Earth) Other Unknown

Are there indications of such origins in our natal/draconic charts? And what would I look for specifically?

posted May 28, 2010 04:44 AM            

@Spanky: Excellent question, I am still cracking that puzzle. Interestingly, different origin Star Seeds are having different aspects. The Regulus ones have Sun or Ascendant conj Regulus. The Sirius Ones have SPIRIT or AURA conj Sirius and sometimes a Trine/Sextile of Sun or Moon.
Many with Angelic contacts are having Sun in 12th or Sun conj HORUS/AURA/LOGOS.
Strong Reptilian DNA candidates as usual are big on Kaali/Siva and Scorpio/Ophichius. My earlier research of Venus aspect Kaali is holding good for them. Many Pleidians are having Sun conj Galactic Centre than Sun conj Alycone, which is a surprise to me.
I will be certain only when I evaluate at least 500 cases, am still below 100.

Have to nudge more of them for birth data.
They are very shy, compassionate, empathetic, non-violent and introverted people. Some are even affected by harsh,loud voices of average Joe Grumpy or Joe Beer Belly and want to stay isolated!!!

The biggest shocker is their lack of awareness on Astrology/Numerology/Lexigrams.

@MVM wrote: "Enough of this gloating psedo-spiritual babble which is full of blah blah"
Any non-gloating non-pseudo non-spiritual non-babble insight from you will be highly appreciated on why real Astrological Readings of real people with genuine Star Seed Experiences is so pontificating. What if you had been one and had no one to go to know about yourself?

posted May 28, 2010 05:45 AM            

"Some are even affected by harsh,loud voices of average Joe Grumpy or Joe Beer Belly"
I almost had to laugh when reading that, cause that is SOO accurate for me. I am just ultrasensitive to loud noises (and to bright lights actually, too).

My Mum sais that as a baby and toddler I would actually start crying, minutes before she or my Dad could make out the distant noise of an emergency car or a plane.
I also was terrified of the vacuum cleaner because of the noises.
And loud ordinary day noises, especially traffic noise or people getting "loud" and "screeching" is hardly bearable to me even today.
i wonder how I could end up in a school. lol

posted May 28, 2010 06:17 AM            

From the reading for Mr. S ...

You have Moon conjunct PALLAS exact, this can give extraordinary "industrial strength" psychic powers, clairvoyance, clairaudience, vivid futuristic dreams etc.

I have Pallas and Psyche at 6 degrees Aquarius, conjunct Moon (9.45), Fortuna (7.49) and N.Node/MC midpoint (7.37) in 8th house (unequal) or 9th house (equal).

posted May 28, 2010 07:06 AM              

I have to agree with DD (Hi darls)

posted May 28, 2010 07:19 AM            

"It brings on a shot of adrenalin that makes me feel ill."
SPOT ON.
It really affects me physically; gives me that adrenalin rush and sometimes even cold sweat, almost as if some primal instinct is preparing to escape.

Oh and yesterday a bird from the crow family sat down on the roof of a house I was passing.

IQ,

posted May 28, 2010 07:46 AM              

quote:

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Oh and yesterday a bird from the crow family sat down on the roof of a house I was passing

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I've been seeing them at my place & on my walks about the neighborhood for the last 2 weeks.

posted May 28, 2010 08:01 AM            

@Evanski: That is very good psychic potential. You will surely have luck in Pineal Gland awakening, and any attempts to do this are good for you. Had the Moon been at 6 degrees too, then ESP would have been very easy.

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posted May 28, 2010 08:14 AM            

I have always been a health, happy Soul with a deep love for God as I knew him as a child, and a deep seated need to make sure the people around me are happy and healthy and functional.

Who says we have to be depressed?
Who says we have to be ill?
Who says we have to have disorders?
Who says we have to be unhappy from day to day because our circumstances?

I don't consider being a happy person to be a bad thing, nor am I a "new ager"...if you knew my lifestyle you would know that.

Yes there will be moments when our Energy undulates...but does it have to stay on that rollercoaster?
Can we not learn to maintain balance by taking care, our Mind, Body and Soul.
How can we do that if we don't take care of our Bodies?
How can we do that if we don't take care of our Souls?
How can we do that if we don't take care of our Minds?

It stands that all three need different things to be functional and resonate at the high frequency we were designed to, and this is where individuality comes into play...because we each are different.

Maybe I do come off as "preachy", but I don't mean to. And I know everyone walks a different path but we are all going to the same Source, so it stands that we can learn from each other. We have to, that's what the Aquarian age is all about.

I will not recant what I have posted here.
It took blood, sweat, tears and a lot breakdowns to get where I am at frequency wise....I have worked hard...and it stands that I do Re-member a good bit of. my origins, slowly but surely I am putting the puzzle together regarding the continuity of my own excistence......why is that a bad thing?..isn't that what we all should be striving for right now......I look around my life and all I see is love and compassion so I must be on the right track.

Perhaps my passion can be misplaced....but please know everyone that my intentions are always to see everyone be that wonderful, healthy, happy .....soul that you are not just sometime...but all the time, forever....the Universe will give you whatever you want if you learn how to give it to yourself first...because on some level you are perfect and you were meant to create perfection in the 3rd dimension and together we can figure out how..

posted May 28, 2010 08:21 AM              

I completely understand what you are talking about.

perhaps its better that we post these beliefs of ours in the other parts of the forum,that not this one of astrology.

havae you ever read the game of life by Florence Scovel?

posted May 28, 2010 08:49 AM            

@Diandra: That is an excellent book and deserves a link and thread in the relevant forum. I am very thankful to you for sending me that book.

posted May 28, 2010 09:06 AM              

i dont know exaclty in whar part of the forum to post..is it lindaland central?universal codes?

posted May 28, 2010 09:10 AM            

what message?
the crows?

Well, I probably fit the "psychological structure" of Starseeds. So who knows?
I am pretty sure my aunt is. Very very sure.
I remember some months ago we were on an exhibition of planets, Moon and stars in general. And we just got lost there (well she was there for the third time in a row). We really felt as if we had "left" this dimension for some time. And it was then that our crazy talk about "time is neither a line nor a circle, but a spiral" happened.
She is completely fascinated with the Carina nebula. And with Egypt. But that is probably another subject lol

posted May 28, 2010 09:11 AM            

But I have to remember that sometimes my rose colored glasses make things seem easier than they are.
It saddens me and it shouldn't...ultimately it is there choice.

I have to keep remembering all is as it should be..

Diandra...
I just want to hug you so bad..... ..your words always make me smile, thank you for that.
Ooooohh a book...haha...I can't read enough....My Sag Moon makes learning lifelong...I haven't read that one....can I get it Barnes and Nobles or one of the local chain book stores.
I want it! IQ has my interest peaked.
I would follow you if you started another thread. Just let me know where its at...