posted May 30, 2010 04:42 PM            

Look at it this way... IF we are all ONE - how do we know what separate or unity is?
If you are wearing a red dress and you can only see ahead, how do you know you are wearing a red dress?

posted May 30, 2010 04:44 PM            

I think that I get what you are making a point about.

The idea of a hierarchy and the separation between the evolved and the unevolved can lead to people viewing others as superior or inferior. This could lead to things like bigotry/prejudice of ethnic groups,subracial groups,religious groups, and people that don't share the same beliefs as them.

This is what led to caste systems,feudal system, slavery,segregation,forcing people on reservations,and converting others to their way of life in various civilizations.

Ideology can unite us, but it can also divide us.

I see far more division among us because of ideology than I see unity. If you come here to USA,you will see that ideology divides us a great deal.

However, all of this could be due to ignorance of that we are all the same because we are all spiritual beings living a human experience.

These things that divide us are material-based illusions.

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posted May 30, 2010 04:47 PM            

that is exactly what I mean. Thanks for putting it into these clear words.

posted May 30, 2010 05:00 PM            

You can only divide that which is divisible. The heart, the soul and the body is not divisible. The mind is.

Taking that theory, only YOU can divide and separate yourSELF through your mind.

OK now, if we look at those whom live multidimensionally, they are removed or separated from those whom live dimensionally simply because the 2D/3D dimensional people are already separated from themselves and will continue to be. The multidimensional (4D/5D) folk are expanding and therefore creating higher energies that are unsustainable for the dimensional people. Therefore, a separation on a dimensional level will occur and is occurring at the moment. This is for the greater good of the planet Earth and for humanity.

posted May 30, 2010 05:53 PM            

And there is this risk that others use the same arguments to justify deeds, that come from a dark place. Just like Glaucus explained.

posted May 31, 2010 05:25 AM            

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I went to college when I was of age and proceeded to spend the better part of a decade floating from one field of study to another; I just couldn't find something that I could see myself doing for the rest of my life. I worked as a security guard throughout this period of my life; the job was so mundane and pointless and it felt like my soul died a little every night I went into work. I was very depressed and I was desperate to find my purpose..to find something more.

I started studying astrology and various religions. I stumbled across kundalini and hermetic meditation and opened up chakras 1-12 on my own. It came very easily to me; I suppose I shouldn't be surprised because I was able to draw in energy through my root chakra as a small child (though my brain-washed parents told me it was just my imagination). I also found that I had a natural healing ability; I was healing my girlfriend's aches, pains, and headaches long before I received my first Reiki attunement this year. My techniques involve visualizing a curtain of white energy moving back and forth through the patient's body, surrounding and bathing the patient's anatomy (this curtain of light moves with my hands as I pass them back and forth over the patient's body). Since my life on the material plane wasn't progressing, I was determined to learn as much of the truth as I could about our reality and to evolve as far as I could and reach my highest potential. This is of course a never-ending journey. Life suddenly had the meaning that it never had before.

I came to these fora after a palm-reader/intuitive told me that I was one of the early indigos, a very old soul, that I had lived on other planets, and that I possess alien DNA. She said she had never seen palms like mine in her over twenty years as a palm reader and didn't know what to make of them. I'm here to learn more about the starseed phenomenon and I am attempting to discover my alien roots if I am indeed alien. Learning this might also help me learn what it is I am to do on this planet..how I'm meant to help mankind.

I do have some questions. Which house system did you use? I'm guessing it wasn't Placidus if Jupiter wound up in the 10th house. I'm not familiar with asteroid astrology; did anything stick out other than the Pluto/SPIRIT conjunction? In your opinion, did anything in my chart point to my origins or past lives? Did the chart seem to indicate that I'm merely human, or something else? I would appreciate your opinions and insights.

Well, I'll shut-up now. :-)
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The boy is sane, honest, helpful, insightful and wants to keep improving.
He has completed a Geology degree, I wish he can get a job in USGS and be an Angel looking out for seismic anomalies. One kid like this is better than a million Richard Leakeys.

Could he have ever spoken up about his abilities to a Scientist or a Psychiatrist or a Psychologist? This is the reason why Astrology is considerd the highest form of Knowledge. The Astrologer has the responsibility to ensure that no human's truth stays unspoken nor any ability stay unrecognized.

posted May 31, 2010 09:04 AM              

Awesome finding.

so right about how important is Astrology.is another tool very helpful to help us find that deepest Gift each one of us have to give and share to the World.

posted May 31, 2010 11:38 AM              

i know you looked at my chart many times,but for example,asteroid Charis stands also for beauty,right?

i saw Musa with some "fortunate asteroids",

fortunatelly i have venus in the 11th in Leo.

Venus

squares my jup/uranus 3rd by 4š/ 7š
trines neptune 2šruller 6th

but Venus sextile my satyrn/plu and Aprhodite/Tyche.

MUSA is cj Ricco(wealth in portuguese)in the 12th,but squares np/pf/vesta/Aphrodite

Charis is on my 5thcusp trine Venusia.

so it is unbalanced i guess.?

posted May 31, 2010 11:40 AM            

Very interesting.

I have Moon conjunct Fomalhaut with 17 minutes of arc. The Saturn/Neptune midpoint is in exact opposition to Fomalhaut,and so I have Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint with 17 minutes of arc. That's because of my t-square of Moon square Saturn-Neptune opposition. I think it's more about grounding my spirituaity,inspiration,idealism and putting it into concrete form. I also think it has to with service,sacrifice,empathizing with other's health problems,and healing (Saturn/Neptune midpoint is associated with heath,medical problems). Uranian Astrologers says that it's prominent in health care professionals.

I don't have any Angel Tarot, but I have 3 of Doreen Virtue's Angel card decks

Angel Therapy Deck http://www.amazon.com/Angel-Therapy-Oracle-Cards-Guidebook/dp/1401918336

Messages From Your Angels Deck http://www.amazon.com/Messages-Angels-Cards-Large-Decks/ dp/1561709069/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1275320065&sr=1-1

Archangel Oracle Deck http://www.amazon.com/Archangel-Oracle-Cards-Doreen-V irtue/dp/1401902480/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1275320102&sr=1-4

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posted May 31, 2010 12:16 PM            

isn`t charis more about your OWN beauty? In which regard you have "charm"?

BTW I have MUSA precisely conjunct SAPPHO on 22 Libra and both conjunct DNA and KASSANDRA on 20.2 Libra (in 10th Placidus house; in 11th equal house).

Interestingly I was writing some poetry when I was younger. A LOT of poems.

Oh I checked Charis in my chart.
Lol Charis (retro) is on 7.1 Taurus exactly conjunct asteroid Actor, PoM and Eros-Psyche-mp and also trines Venus on 6 Capricorn.

posted May 31, 2010 12:28 PM            

And BABYLON is precisely on 24.0 Libra in my natal; isn`t that close to Arcturus?

posted May 31, 2010 12:36 PM            

DD,

same here

in my chart:

Moon in 3'11 Pisces
square Kalliope in 3'10 Sagittarius
square Orpheus in 4'18 Sagittarius
sextile Musa in 2'53 Capricorn

In Right Ascension:
Sun in 3'02 Scorpio
oppose Sedna in 3'46 Taurus R
trine Moon in 4'24 Pisces
sextile Musa in 3'03 Capricorn
(12th Harmonic Isosceles trapezoid)

Kalliope was the Muse of Epic poetry and the mother of Orpheus
so my Moon is square the conjunction of mother,son asteroids.

also

Bernadette Brady said that Fomalhaut is humanitarian and poetic.
Ptolemy said that it is the nature of Venus and Mercury.
Reinhold Ebertin said that it has an influence of Mercury-Venus character with a blending of Neptune influence.

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Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted May 31, 2010 12:49 PM            

my Kalliope is on 2°28 Capricorn conjunct your Musa. lol

posted May 31, 2010 01:00 PM            

"my Kalliope is on 2°28 Capricorn conjunct your Musa. lol"

That's really cool!

"Do you think the square between mythic mother-son figures could indicate a tensed / problematic relationship between you and your mother in your life? (with problematic I donīt mean only between you and her, but also the circumstances could be problematic)."

in regards to the Moon squaring Orpheus-Kalliope,

well..growing up, my mother never showed appreciation for my poetry even though others told me that I had a gift.
She also discouraged me in regards to career in acting (I happened to have the same birthdate as actress,Winona Ryder).

She always stressed security with me. With her,I never really felt secure because of her instability and her abusing me.

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Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted May 31, 2010 01:38 PM            

You crack me up...I feel the same thing about what you write, trust me...XX

Whoa..
@ IQ...that kid...
That story sent chills down my spine.
Of course I know what I am.

But whats wild is to see a pattern in someone else, and a smiliar one at that.
He did the same thing I did with my Chakras and remember I had extreme pain for almost 2 months weeks after I opened all my Chakras. I remember I emailed you because it was becoming debilitating back pain in a way and that frightened me at the time...but in another way I was like this isnt real, dont let it bother you..its not real, its not real........and sure enough the pain went away once I learned how to access Hyperspace and protect myself on the Astral level.....and I had to do the Alter Exercises consistenly..it was very intense release work...very emotional too..I cried more in those 3 to 4 months than I had my entire life from emotions.......but transformative it was for sure...
I only work with the 7 chakras now though, they involve our connection to the 3D right now and I am learning to live in the moment completely, because that is what I feel is neccesary right now for me and my Virgo NN. But initially I activated all 12. I also activated all 12 strands of my DNA at the same time, with sound, color and visualization techniques using my intuition along with the guidance of Cliff and Karen Dess and Steve Gunn to insure I would not hurt myself....It was during this time I connected with my Sirian lifeline...as well as my shadow self....
The use of the higher level Chakras come naturally to me I have always been connected to them because my past lives were spent so connected to the Source. This life I have had to spend materializing things and that involves working with with the lower Chakras which are new to me.
Ultimately this involved connecting to Gaia and in the 3D this manifested with reconnecting to my family, my roots and making sense out of my childhood experiences...releasing the pain and anguish of many lifetimes in which died in assylums completely insane, lifetimes where I died with a broked heart..lifetimes I spent in monastaries...and lifetimes where I spent totally seperated from the Earthly experience body wise and only participated from the Astral.

My MC/IC are at 6 Gemini/Sag..right on Ant/Ald and I did intially start my expansion of consciousness using the Tarot...I worked closely with Steve Gunn through all of that...that man will always be special to me..and I thank the Universe for providing him as a teacher and guide when I was so deep in consciousness

My DNA asteroid opposes Isis/Mars/Lucifer..I definitely over came some strong issues to get to that point of activation and I had to die as it were...and be made anew...I walked away from my millionaire lifestyle and relationship...left it all,the money, the cars, the houses, the parties, all because I too like this guy you mentioned felt like I was selling my soul a little more each day, until one day I snapped and said, enough is enough...I was meant to live a life more connected to God than this.

My Pluto is Conjunct My DNA and creates a grand air trine in my Chart with Asteroid Psyche and my MC. So activation of DNA came naturally to me.

Then I stumbled on the acting and modeling thing after that...and slowly but surely I am working my way up to the same level of success but this time I am Aware.

Whats more, my Sun is at 26 Aries...and my Moon and Neptune conjunction are not far from the Galactic Center at 18 and 20 Degrees Sag...and my Merlin and Reiki of course are there too at 22 and 24 degrees Sag..Moon/Neptune in the 4th. Sun/Mars in the 8th, Saturn in the 12th. My emotional life is one swirling mass of emotions I tell you it has been hell on Earth learning balance! ha

So his experiences makes total sense to me.

My Spirit is conjunct Saturn...and it has been a slow but steady climb for me to reach a balance of Mind, Body and Soul.
But I have to say there is no better feeling in this 3D dimension than that blissful feeling of "all is as it should be" when you are Soul Centered.

And whats more I too heal in a smiliar way. Except I actually see the persons Aura...and I surround them in the color that appears the weakest, bathing there body in that Energy. I will place a crystal over that particular Chakra and use it to amplify the Energy and reintroduce it back into there Auras.
All the while though I keep the both of us bath in Violet and place the ArchAngel Frequency Archetype directly on my pineal gland to keep us both protected.......
I do this during a massage in which the person is lying face down.
No coincidence my first career was Physical Therapy and my minor was in massage....and even from the very beginning my Professors always said I had a knack for it...but I never thought anything of it besides feeding my Ego more. haha

Then I usually will talk with them about the experiences associated with that Chakra this is very necessary as the communication Chakra gives birth to higher levels of consciousness...it stands that if we cannot talk about the things we are experiencing and communicate in a healthy, productive way with perfect self expression then we cannot get a full activation of our pineal gland. As Energy flows will wane as they pass through, and we will find ourselves feeling misunderstood. Which ultimately is our problem not others as we like to project and think.

Interesting about MUSA Tameem, its exactly conjunct my NN...and opposes my Venus.
No surprise I am attacted to Arts and Fashion.

Lets see 12th House Saturn.
No 6th House Moon or Mars. But I do have a stellum of my name Asteroid/Giza/Aura there and this opposes my Spirit/Saturn. That now makes sense to me.

Get this...Pallas at 24 degrees Aquarius.
Sextiling the Galactic Center.
Horus at 27 Degrees Taurus is conj ALG, and inconjunct the Galactic Center.

Craziness....gotta love Astrology.
Fun thing is knowing even what I know this is the first time I have sat down to analyze this. I have been doing it all Energetically, thanks for reminding me of the map that Astrology is.
Im beginning to get these insights that on a higher level the higher ups use it like people in the 3D use the Bible...interesting right?
Ties in with what you said as well.

"This is the reason why Astrology is considerd the highest form of Knowledge. The Astrologer has the responsibility to ensure that no human's truth stays unspoken nor any ability stay unrecognized."

And what Diandra wrote:

"so right about how important is Astrology.is another tool very helpful to help us find that deepest Gift each one of us have to give and share to the World.

so many times that we dont know what it is,and keep doing things that doenst keep our heart still and happy."

So a special thanks Tameem for making us all take the time to materialize our higher awareness so that it can help us in the 3D as we need it to.

posted May 31, 2010 02:44 PM            

The thing is that nobody is misunderstanding her.

I disagreed with her and gave her alternative viewpoints to things hat she said.
She claims things as facts and truth which can be questioned by others who don't agree with her.

There is nothing wrong with disagreeing,expressing alternative viewpoints,and questioning people's facts and truths.

Every human being on this planet has the right to do that.

In USA,
It's the 1st Amendment of the Constitution

I have never claimed to have any knowledge nor truth. I say that everything is just my views,beliefs,and opinions. That's because I believe that perceptions are relative.

I hate using phrases like "I know" and prefer using words like "I believe" or "I think" or "I feel"

Do I really know? or do I just believe or think or feel that I know?

Also according to the site: Linda Goodman encouraged debate too.
Anybody should feel free to debate.

Just in case you question me about that

"Linda loved debate, so in her memory we do encourage debates. You are free to speak your Minds about anything, but please, use no profanity or personal insults." http://www.linda-goodman.com/

Just because a person disagrees,gives an alternative viewpoint,and questions a person's facts and truth doesn't mean that the person expressing the original viewpoint is being misunderstood and taken the wrong way.

That very same point could be expressed by the person expressing the alternative viewpoint. He/she can say that the person with the original viewpoint is misunderstanding him/her.

IMHO
Diversity is not problem on our planet.
Intolerance of Diversity is.

I believe that agreeing to disagree is a good thing to do at times to avoid "going in circles"

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Raymond

Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement