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Glaucus
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posted May 30, 2010 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
DD,

well...we can discuss our Synastry

here is my Heliocentric Chart:

Earth in 5'20 Taurus (conjunct North Eris Node in 5'30 Taurus)
Mercury in 17'01 Sagittarius (conjunct South Venus Node in 16'25 Sagittarius)
Venus in 14'35 Sagittarius (conjunct South Uranus Node in 13'51 Sagittarius)
Mars in 7'32 Aries (conjunct South Quaoar Node in 8'29 Aries)
Jupiter in 14'07 Sagittarius (conjunct South Uranus Node in 13'51 Sagittarius)
Saturn in 2'00 Gemini
Uranus in 14'14 Libra
Neptune in 2'38 Sagittarius


As you see, I have mostly Sagittarius in my heliocentric chart with 4 planets in Sagittarius.
I even have Jupiter conjunct Mercury and Venus, and so I have Mercury-Jupiter,Venus-Jupiter double whammy.
I am very strong in fire with 5 planets in fire signs.


dwarf planets:
Ceres in 21'35 Cancer
Pluto in 29'47 Virgo
Eris in 12'19 Aries
Haumea in 10'19 Virgo
Makemake in 15'04 Leo


dwarf planet candidates:
Sedna in 2'08 Taurus
Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio
Orcus in 21'11 Cancer
Quaoar in 2'18 Scorpio
Varuna in 2'22 Gemini


Please feel free to look at asteroids too.

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DD
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posted May 31, 2010 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Glaucus,

my heliocentric positions are these:

Earth in 25.56 Gemini
Mercury in 23.11 Sagittarius
Venus in 19.59 Capricorn
Mars in 22.07 Scorpio
Jupiter in 22.15 Pisces
Saturn in 14.42 Cancer
Uranus in 28.52 Libra
Neptune in 9.26 Sagittarius


dwarf planets:
Ceres in 28.35 Pisces
Pluto in 7.13 Libra
Eris in 13.15 Aries
Haumea in 13.07 Virgo
Makemake in 18.28 Leo


dwarf planet candidates:
Sedna in 3.31 Taurus
Ixion in 8.25 Scorpio
Quaoar in 6.06 Scorpio
Varuna in 6.35 Gemini

Interesting that you have a Stellium in Sagittarius; as I have one in the tropical zodiac. In the helio it`s not existent anymore.

I didn`t see too many interaspects between our charts, but noticed these:

Your Earth conjunct my Quaoar - 0.46
Your Mercury trine my Makemake - 1.27
Your Venus trine my Eris - 1.20
Your Venus square my Haumea - 1.28
Your Mars opposite my Pluto - 0.19
Your Jupiter trine my Eris - 0.52
Your Jupiter square my Haumea - 1.00
Your Uranus square my Saturn - 0.28
Your Uranus opposite my Eris - 0.59
Your Ceres opposite my Venus - 1.36
Your Ceres trine my Mars - 0.32
Your Ceres trine my Jupiter - 0.40
Your Pluto opposite my Ceres - 1.12
Your Haumea square my Neptune - 0.53
Your Ixion conjunct my Quaoar - 0.41
Your Orcus opposite my Venus - 1.12
Your Orcus trine my Mars - 0.56
Your Orcus trine my Jupiter - 1.04


Sadly I have no idea how to interprete the Transneptunians.

I also wonder if it is okay to compare the helio chart with the tropical one, cause I noticed that your helio Ceres and helio Orcus are pretty close to my tropical Vertex on 21.28 Cancer and opposing my Sun-Moon-mp on 21.31 Capricorn and asteroid Eros is also there on 20.59 Cancer.


Additionally your helio Venus and helio Jupiter are on my geo Mercury South node on 14.14 Sagittarius.
Your helio Mercury is opposed to my geo Ceres NN on 17.28 Gemini.

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posted May 31, 2010 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
"Sadly I have no idea how to interprete the Transneptunians."

the main thing about them overall is evolutionary intensification. That first started with Pluto,and now it's applied to the other big transneptunian objects.

I really don't see anything significantly close except for my Mars oppose your Pluto which is a well-known transneptunian.

"I also wonder if it is okay to compare the helio chart with the tropical one, cause I noticed that your helio Ceres and helio Orcus are pretty close to my tropical Vertex on 21.28 Cancer and opposing my Sun-Moon-mp on 21.31 Capricorn and asteroid Eros is also there on 20.59 Cancer."

Yeah...Robert Blaschke does it.

very cool stuff


"Additionally your helio Venus and helio Jupiter are on my geo Mercury South node on 14.14 Sagittarius.
Your helio Mercury is opposed to my geo Ceres NN on 17.28 Gemini."

nice


I noticed that my heliocentric Ceres-Orcus conjunction forms a grand trine with your Heliocentric Mars-Jupiter trine.

so the merging of nurturing,caring and evolutionary intensification,oaths,promises are in harmony with the harmony of your passion,assertion,actions and expansion,judgment,optimism


That would seem good for being considerate of beliefs,viewpoints

with the grand trine being in water signs, there is strong emotional connection

please feel free to check out some asteroids too


I checked out your heliocentric chart.

I like your Earth trine Uranus. That looks good for being innovative...can be good for Astrology

what do you think of your t-square of
Jupiter square Earth-Mercury opposition?

How do you think that plays in your life in regards to your higher self?
It looks like a teacher configuration.

your love nature seems unusually intense
Your Venus is exactly conjunct the South Pluto Node.
so your love nature,value systems,relationships merge with the collective evolutionary intensification,transformation,regeneration connected to the past


according to Philip Sedgwick:

The planetary north node suggests an approach to the present life circumstances which enables the individual to glean the most from subsequent actions in reflexive motion. The individual must clearly pursue the north node to avoid repetition of past patterns and to ensure that the natal energy of the associated planet be fulfilled. The north node of a planet resembles a beam of laser light, straight and direct, which the individual may use to fine-tune directional guidance.

The south node of a planet represents a causation of the planetary energy of past time frames.
It is important to isolate the south planetary node from the types of innuendos often tied to the lunar south node in geocentric astrology. First, the karmic implication of a planetary south node does not have to maintain any relevance to past incarnations lived upon the Earth. Such suggestions should be discouraged. Secondly, past in terms of time may be confusing. Past means five seconds ago, not necessarily some great life time in Atlantis or Egypt. Past is measured in the soul’s evolution whether in an incarnation or not. The considerations of time’s relationship to space advanced by Albert Einstein and contemporaries suggest that the past is now. Regardless, with respect to the heliocentric south node of any planet, past connotes something done or completed. Experiences still in progress align the individual with the dharma of the north planetary node.


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posted May 31, 2010 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting stuff!

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DD
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posted June 02, 2010 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
"the main thing about them overall is evolutionary intensification."
Yes, that makes sense, but they do have different traits, don´t they?


"I noticed that my heliocentric Ceres-Orcus conjunction forms a grand trine with your Heliocentric Mars-Jupiter trine."
Yes, I noticed that, too. I like it that it is in Water.


"so the merging of nurturing,caring and evolutionary intensification,oaths,promises are in harmony with the harmony of your passion,assertion,actions and expansion,judgment,optimism"
Yes, good interpretation.

"That would seem good for being considerate of beliefs,viewpoints"
And that is what we are, don´t you think? considerate of viewpoints?


"I like your Earth trine Uranus. That looks good for being innovative...can be good for Astrology"
Yes, it adds to my tropical Aquarius - Moon, a bit more URanian flavour. I am not complaining.


"what do you think of your t-square of
Jupiter square Earth-Mercury opposition?"
Maybe it indicates the importance of philosophy, learning and theories in my life.
Could also highlight the importance of openness and tolerance towards different viewpoints, and my clear aversion against any kind of prejudice or tolerance.
It`s one of the few things that can really get me upset.


"It looks like a teacher configuration. "
Well, I am. Even though sometimes I think I am a better pupil than teacher, and while teaching I am learning the most.


"so your love nature,value systems,relationships merge with the collective evolutionary intensification,transformation,regeneration connected to the past"
I didn`t even notice that. lol But it reinforces my tropical Venus-Pluto-square, makes it maybe more significant for my natal, even though it has a 3 degree orb.


"First, the karmic implication of a planetary south node does not have to maintain any relevance to past incarnations lived upon the Earth. Such suggestions should be discouraged."
So the Venus Southnode is not representative of past life relationships?


"Past is measured in the soul’s evolution whether in an incarnation or not."
I second that. I actually thought about that in regards to the lunar South Node, too. This could be indicative of a past life, sure, but it could be as well indicative of our childhood or experiences we made in the past during THIS incarnation.


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posted June 02, 2010 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
"Yes, that makes sense, but they do have different traits, don´t they?"

Yep...like Orcus is about matters involving oaths,promises

"
And that is what we are, don´t you think? considerate of viewpoints?"
Yeah..we are always considerate of each other's viewpoints. We seem to agree with each other on stuff, and pretty much on all general,basic stuff like we're always on the same page.

"Yes, it adds to my tropical Aquarius - Moon, a bit more URanian flavour. I am not complaining."

"Yeah.....Uranus is a strong theme"

"Maybe it indicates the importance of philosophy, learning and theories in my life.
Could also highlight the importance of openness and tolerance towards different viewpoints, and my clear aversion against any kind of prejudice or tolerance.
It`s one of the few things that can really get me upset."

I agree. I really like that about you.


"Well, I am. Even though sometimes I think I am a better pupil than teacher, and while teaching I am learning the most."

I agree. I do believe that to be a good teacher, you have to be a good student.

"I didn`t even notice that. lol But it reinforces my tropical Venus-Pluto-square, makes it maybe more significant for my natal, even though it has a 3 degree orb."
yeah Venus-Pluto is strong theme in your chart. The heliocentric nodal configuration involves the hgiher self and dealing with the collective


"So the Venus Southnode is not representative of past life relationships?"
I believe that it can, but heliocentric Venus nodes are extremely slow moving, they are about the collective.


"I second that. I actually thought about that in regards to the lunar South Node, too. This could be indicative of a past life, sure, but it could be as well indicative of our childhood or experiences we made in the past during THIS incarnation."

I agree. Noel Tyl said that lunar nodes can indicate one's parenting in the past.

I think strong emphasis on heliocentric nodal aspects could indicate the emphasis on being a public figure.

Interestingly, I have all my personal planets (Earth,Mercury,Venus,and Mars aspecting nodes of planets,dwarf planets/dwarf planet candidates. That suggest very likely that I was meant to be a public figure.

Earth conjunct North Eris Node
Mercury conjunct South Venus Node
Venus conjunct South Uranus Node
Mars conjunct South Quaoar Node

Overall, I think that being a neurodiversity advocate and starting a nonprofit organization for people with neurological/learning differences as well as being open about my own experiences in regards to diversity as well as being nonconformist,unconventional,creative and issues with relationships which are things that many people with neurological/learning differences experience. Therefore, talking about my own past experiences will help people understand many others like myself.


I believe that North Eris Node,South Uranus Node,and South Quaoar Node also means that I should be open to the public about my metaphysical interests,alternative religious/spiritual beliefs. It could be about raising awareness about how many people with neurological/learning experiences
are metaphysically oriented, but they are more likely to be misdiagnosed as having psychosis. I could talk about the need for more tolerance for people who have different beliefs and experiences. Maybe I need to talk about psychiatry being modern day witch hunt in a way.


Lets start a new thread on Asteroids in Heliocentric Astrology in regards to higher self.

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posted June 02, 2010 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

Here is some information on Heliocentric Astrology by Philip Sedgwick.


Shifting to a heliocentric horoscope requires that an individual give up a good deal of tightly tied personality points, namely the ego. Astrologers shifting to the heliocentric method of astrological interpretation must likewise give up a series of items of intimate familiarity. First, the houses disappear, along with the midheaven and rising sign. A quadrant emphasis replaces the houses, based upon the Vernal Equinox (0E Aries). Secondly, retrogrades are relinquished.
The solar observation of true motion of the planets replaces the Earth based apparent motion. The Earth and its Moon become virtually indistinguishable within the zodiac. This merger represents an integration of the Earth and its satellite, the Moon. Lastly, the Sun disappears - or so it seems.
This is not true either; the Sun merely becomes the point of reference (view).
The sacrifices of the shift to heliocentric astrology are uncomfortable indeed, much like
giving up the typical ego reactions employed for entire sequences of lifetimes. The subsequent enlightenment and purity of being to be reclaimed make it all worthwhile. Each of the astrological considerations lost is replaced by a new premise, perhaps of true proportions. Truly, no loss exists.
The movement to heliocentric astrology creates additional space in which the individual or event of consummation obtains more operating room. This diminishes the probability of the individual tripping in the very process of motion. The mundane influences of life begin to evaporate just because there is no room for the influences to occupy. This can create great difficulty for individuals seeing no benefit in a life without inherent difficulties. Life becomes
simpler and it remains imperative that the new space created be filled with issues and evolution outside the individual. This dynamic defines the nature of pursuing life from within to without.
Life without resistance evolves. The essence of the August, 1987 Harmonic Convergence blends awareness and action.

Heliocentric horoscopes initially appear to be suspended in space with very little to stand upon, which of course is not true. In fact the entire mass of the Sun may now be used as a basis.
The Sun contains 99.8% of all the physical matter in the solar system! This creates a large,energized platform for the baseline of one’s existence. More pressure and push results within the heliocentric chart. This pressure is self-generated and self-contained, arising from the agreement
of the soul to truly evolve. The transition to heliocentric astrology symbolically represents a
greater commitment on the part of the soul to utilize its incarnation upon the planet Earth with
maximum application.
The first experience of a heliocentric map may be one of, “So what do I do with it now?!?”
The reader is encouraged to recall the first view ever held of a geocentric nativity. Remember the perplexity of trying to understand all of the astrological dynamics that everybody else except you knew so well? Remember the overwhelming sensation of being mentally overloaded? Remember the sense of never being able to learn it all? Welcome to round two of astrological perceptual disorders.
The disorder of first heliocentric experiences result from insufficient background information. Even some basic theory would dispel much of the discomfort. The initial reaction to the heliocentric chart is much like having the ego defense mechanisms and facades in life stripped away. Everyone understands you at the soul level. This is frightening. This is capable of producing paranoia, fear and over reaction to rejection. Then an interesting phenomenon results.
Those people do not seem to care about your personality. They recognize you at the soul level and view the greatness contained by the soul housed by the organism known as a human body.
Relief results and the negative reactive emotions melt in the heat of the solar mass. Heliocentric astrology is like always running on solar power!

New aspects of the self emerge based upon parts of the soul never considered and
perceptions which require that an individual be removed from physical situations to clearly perceive them. These new considerations result from contingencies offered in heliocentric astrology which do not appear in geocentric systems. Shifts in astrological priorities yield shifts in consciousness describing the essence of the individual. Once one lets go of the astrological premises relevant only in geocentric astrology one encounters the new phenomena: heliocentric planetary nodes, occultations (essentially eclipses) of all planets, aphelion (farthest planetary point from the Sun in orbital revolution) and perihelion (closest solar contact point within the orbital geometry).
Astrologers will also experience relief from individuals not knowing accurate times of birth.
Time is a much less critical consideration since no angles or rapid lunar placements are
calculated. The greatest error in a heliocentric horoscope with an inaccurate birth time will occur for the planet Mercury.

New aspect patterns arise (for instance, Mercury opposed Venus). This offers new insight into traditional methods. Consider the Mercury/Venus opposition: a clear individual recognition of one’s needs through direct communication. The need to communicate is dramatically exposed heliocentrically where in geocentric astrology it would never be noted. It is true that some other geocentric aspect may have suggested this need, but not with the direct perspective of the heliocentric point of view.
There will be growing pains in heliocentric astrology. It is to the advantage of the
heliocentrically inquisitive astrologer to notice the areas of discomfort. Later on in the study of heliocentric astrology, correlate these initial discomforts to the resultant awareness. Chances are
that reduction of ego and development of soul occur in the process.


A heliocentric map stands to facilitate each astrologer in dealing with the power and responsibility which exists in the realm of astrology. It is a journey of the inner
cosmos of the soul.
The concepts of heliocentric astrology require that the astrologer
first give up a series of notions.

These are:

Relinquished Precepts
a. retrograde planets
b. angles and houses
c. Moon signs
d. fictitious model of the solar system
e. loss of relative (apparent) bias

Obtained Concepts
a. true motion of planets
b. quadrant system referenced to 00 Aries
c. integration of Earth and Moon
d. solar basis of activities and views
e. accurate (true) model of the solar system
f. gain of objectivity
g. heliocentric planetary emphasis
h. perihelia interpretation
i. aphelia interpretation
j. new aspect possibilities


The heliocentric horoscope strongly emphasizes the extended purpose in life. The
map reveals roads to take to propel the seeker closer to a sense of meaning and fulfillment within the incarnation. The individual obtains and must utilize the expanded operating room of space in
which one conducts the incarnation. Availability of purpose-related activities increase, enabling strong reinforcement aspects to one’s destiny.

The strong significance of the heliocentric horoscope may lead to the question of how to
know when it is time to look at the heliocentric chart. It could be confusing and overwhelming if the heliocentric chart is examined too early.
True, premature analysis of the heliocentric map holds the potential to demotivate the
individual. Still, the determination of the timing for the initial look into the new world remains ultimately up to the owner of the chart. Any time the questions come up: “Why am I here?”
“What am I doing in/with/through life?” “What good is all of this?”
These are questions which require an initial heliocentric examination.

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Raymond

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Planetary Nodes

The planetary nodes stimulate an area of influence in the heliocentric horoscope. Early work by John Nelson found that a planet was stronger
1 when within five to ten degrees of either node or bisection of the nodal axis. He was not clear as to whether a planet interacted strongly only with its own nodes. It is submitted that any planet to any other planetary node may be considered
to be an effective aspect - five degree orb maximum.
Planetary nodes in heliocentric astrology advance at a rate of about one degree per 100 years.
This does not represent an effect of precession since precession is a geocentric perceptual phenomenon. The slow motion of the nodes creates a generational influence in which virtually any person born in any given century has the same nodes. What could be the fuss?
The planet in contact to the node represents the personalized connection to a collective issue.
The planet reveals the impetus that the individual possesses to exert an effect in a larger issue of humanity and in context of the planet’s symbolism. North Node connections induce the individual to push for advance, change, reform and progress - worst case: rebellion, malcontent
and antiestablishment attitudes prevail, often polarizing the opposed force into greater manifestation; protest and resistance fail to function at any level. South planetary nodes contain
heritage, tradition and foundation. Contacts to the south node support such historical bases with great chauvinism. Other times, the tailing node contact represents dogma, resistance to progress,fear of advancement and the inability to adjust to technological progress. A point of equilibrium and balance must be maintained.

It remains relatively simple to delineate planetary contacts to nodes. Do realize that
examples presented are out of horoscopic context and could be modified significantly by other aspects in
the chart.
Consider the instance of an individual’s Mercury in Gemini con joining the Venusian North Node. A double Gemini influence prevails from Mercury and its association to Gemini and the sign of the North Node of Venus. This inspires the individual to speak actively regarding social issues, monetary conditions, or the sphere of social relationships. Best case, this person effectively occupies a platform for social and economic reform. Worst case, the individual reduces the self into the realm of idle gossip - misdirected, unapplied, frustrated by the collective conditions at hand. His/her overall morality would feel violated without source to rectification.
Should an individual’s natal Mars in Capricorn fall upon the Saturnian South Node, the individual would be an archeologist. This archeology need not manifest in the physical let’s-godig-a-hole-in Egypt mode. The digging into the past could be mental, philosophical or emotional.
This individual strives to extract the value and benefit of what was done, noting the downfalls in the interest of avoiding future tautology. At best, the person advances great insights into dimensions of development and realizes a variety of ways to transcend past errors. When operating at a less than optimum level, the owner of the map becomes obsessed by tradition,allowing an antiquated heritage to go unchallenged by the motions of progress. Such action merely seals the fate of the collective force to replicate old procedures enabling accurate recycling of the same efforts at evolution - ultimate redundancy.
Nelson’s work pointed out sensitivity of a planet bisecting the nodal axis - the midpoint of the North Node/South Node or South Node/North Node. A moderately different flavor may be applied to each of these nodal midpoints. The direction of the natural zodiac constitutes the from/to direction, these points follow a from/to format, that is, from South Node to North Node or from North Node to South Node.
The motion in the direction of the North Node from the South Node shows a movement out
of the past and into the future. Integration, balance and synthesis of the two worlds of existence becomes paramount. Taking the best of the old and applying it as foundation provides a key as to this necessary integration. Elimination of old for mats which exceed effective application propels the issue forward even further. A moderate approach to progress blending with the firmness of tested effort combines for a successful approach to a planet’s theme.
Moving from the North Node to the South Node requires more emphasis to be placed on
exploration of the past. Previous forms hold many keys to ensure that progressive effects do not fall short of the goal through lack of preparation or expectation of the unforeseen. This nodal moderation calls for a conservative attitude in growth and progress. Examination of the former reveals potential problematic situations. Such avoidances, perceived in advance due to retrospective analysis, save great time and energy in the interest of forward motion and growth.


Perihelia and Aphelia
These solar contact orientations establish another set of fixed configurations to examine in order to understand the pursuit and purpose of the individual with respect to the collective. As with the nodal nuances, these points generate interest in destiny and meaning in life, thereby
inspiring the person to continue forward in life with zest and zeal.
At the perihelion point the Sun occupies one of the foci of the planet’s orbital ellipse. The persuasion of the planet strives to find focus at the perihelion and does so with great urgency.
The urgency is established by the rapid motion of the planet at perihelion and the relative proximity to the Sun.
Consider the implication of John Nelson’s work again. He substantiated that a planetary
connection to either perihelion or aphelion significantly strengthened the influence of the planet.
2 No direct reference was made to perihelion/aphelion bisection, however, the influence is implied.
Suppose that an individual had natal Jupiter in the heliocentric chart in a partile conjunction with the perihelion of Mercury in Gemini. Note that Jupiter would also conjoin the North Node of Venus, and to a lesser degree the North Node of Uranus. To contemplate solely the Jupiter to Mercury integration in this planet/ perihelion configuration, the individual would carry strong teaching abilities into this incarnation. An urgency to guide or instruct would prevail until the individual found manifestation. Idle bossiness or voicing arrogant opinions are good examples of this aspect in an unintegrated form. Still, the prevalent urge carries the need to contact, at close distance, those with whom one can share information of an experiential nature.

Ponder upon a Mars in Scorpio on the perihelion of Pluto. This aspect guarantees a strong interactive influence geared to provoke, push, and persuade a deep level of transformation.
Regardless of how this aspect looks at a distance (even when Pluto is closest it is still some thirty times the distance of the Earth from the Sun) the goal is to produce massive change and possibly painful evolution, even at the risk of complete isolationism (not a purpose to be approached
lightly).
Venus falling upon Jupiter’s aphelion in Libra should stimulate some interesting relationship interactions for the individual. Despite discreetness, this individual’s relationship life would
attract the attention of the collective, especially that part of the collective which thinks it has the right answer. The individual bears the lesson to teach the collective how to relate to others within
one’s own standards. Retreat, as the distant aphelion implies, provides the point of essential refuge and perspective. Retreat from a relationship allows for participation in the same relationship, forming a statement of synthesis.
The midpoint of perihelion/aphelion (q/Q), moving from perihelion to aphelion direction
created by the natural zodiac, demonstrates a braking motion. The planet theoretically reaches a mean speed of revolution about the Sun, striving to obtain a point of normalcy. Some remorse may be felt during slow-down. Otherwise the retreat may be anticipated in a vacation-like atmosphere. Enthusiasm for the plateau results.
Pluto’s q/Q midpoint falls in Aquarius. Should an individual have the Earth in Aquarius aligned with this point, the individual feels an environmental urge to deal with ecology of the planet. This ecological interest can thrive without impeaching the Secretary of the Interior! It may appear in a psychological, mental, philosophical or spiritual sense. These individuals try to manifest the essential resources upon the planet in the interest of the planet’s transformation. The
“putting on the brakes” theme of the midpoint stresses the need to pause and review, ensuring effective and conscious effort of resources before moving forward and using (exploiting) other resources. An earthier analogy is reviewing the refrigerator for potential leftovers prior to cooking a new meal. This investigation requires the jettison of the decayed foodstuffs to prevent
decay of good foodstuffs.
Mars resting upon the midpoint Q/q of Saturn in Aries represents the point of planetary
acceleration as it passes through mean orbital characteristics. This creates the need for renewed thrust and pooling of resources and guarantees that the effort extended has sufficient impetus to
produce the intended structural manifestations implied by Saturn. One demands more individualized energy, great persistence and an overwhelmingly positive attitude toward success.


The seven and a half degree aspect family, familiar to those of the Cosmobiological schools
of thought, stirs some initial puzzlement amongst other astrologers. In many systems of astrology
these angular relationships repeatedly demonstrate their potency and viability. The simplest way
to encounter these contacts is to make a listing of angular separation among all planets and points
in the horoscope. Orbs to the seven and a half degree family should keep to one degree.

A reference table of the seven and a half degree family follows:
07.5E 97.50E 187.5E 277.5E
15.0E 105.0E 195.0E 285.0E
22.5E 112.5E 202.5E 292.5E
30.0E 120.0E 210.0E 300.0E
37.5E 127.5E 217.5E 307.5E
45.0E 135.0E 225.0E 315.0E
52.5E 142.5E 232.5E 322.5E
60.0E 150.0E 240.0E 330.0E
67.5E 157.5E 247.5E 337.5E
75.0E 165.0E 255.0E 345.0E
82.5E 172.5E 262.5E 352.5E
90.0E 180.0E 270.0E 360.0E

These aspects imply efforts towards manifestation. It is worth noting that the seven and a
half degree aspect family contains all of the major aspects within the aspect genealogy.
A final note on aspectual orbs comes again from the works of John Nelson. Nelson’s work
implied that an applying orb of five degrees and a four degree departing (separating) seemed highly effective.3 For mundane analysis wherein timing is foremost, tighter aspects of 15’ applying and 30’ separating function accurately.

My Mercury in 17'01 Sagittarius is conjunct Mercury Aphelion in 16'50 Sagittarius.
Therefore, my Mercury is strengthened and is connected to Mercury collective. This could be dealing with the collective in regards to communication,mental activity which would fit with my neurodiversity advocacy and running nonprofit organization.

with Mercury conjunct its aphelion, it's also around its slowest period


According to Philip Sedgwick in regards to Aphelion:
Aphelion for Mercury comes in the usually “go-for-it” sign of Sagittarius. The motion of the fleet-footed messenger slows down, allowing a lazy stroll through the Sagittarius sector in the sky. The implication arising reveals that direction in thought form, word form and listening form develops as a result of deliberate contemplation, not the usual flitting about associated with the Mercury mental process. The essence of Sagittarius strives to obtain and produce truth. The pitfall of the truths of Sagittarius occur when truth and dogma become a system of justification for a form of Mercurial activity. This effect extends through all communications, trickery of a deliberate nature and those things known as practical jokes.


according to Philip Sedgwick in regards to Slow Mercury:
Slow Mercury individuals bear the qualities of methodical and intuitive learners. These
individuals often take time to contemplate or digest a new statement, thought or concept before acting. These individuals, regardless of the speed of internal mental processing, generally think before speaking. The slow Mercury placement sets up the capacity for good listening abilities and an empathetic ear. These individuals are concerned about the level of completion in any given communication interaction. They often ask if the question is understood or that answers be clarified.
The slow Mercury person bears a great level of innate patience within communication. This
makes the individual more naturally disposed for research or in-depth investigation. A naturally inquisitive mind resides in the brain and the individual demonstrates less gullibility and naivete


My Mercury in 17'01 Sagittarius is conjunct Jupiter in 14'07 Sagittarius
according to Philip Sedgwick:
A slow Mercury conjunct Jupiter or Uranus may explode communicatively, defying the
natural qualities of deliberate contemplation which are inherent in the slow placement and thus resembling a fast Mercury.

you can find any connections to perihelion,aphelion as well as nodes here:
http://www.true-node.com/eph1/


notice that orbs of 5 degrees is suggested for the planetary nodes

that would mean my Mercury-Venus-Jupiter conjunction is conjunct both the South Venus and South Uranus Nodes.

if they use that orb for planetary nodes,
I'd use no more than 3 degree orb for the minor planetary nodes.

it seems that conjunction to the midpoint of the north and south node or to the midpoint of the south node and node are important
which basically means square the nodal axis

the same with conjunction to the midpoint of the perihelion and aphelion or to the midpoint of the aphelion and perihelion are important which basically means square the perihelion/aphelion axis


I also believe that the closer the orb,the stronger the influence

Maybe people with much closer orbs to nodes will probably be more involve with the collective than people with wider orbs to nodes.

of course, it depends on the person and what he/she do with his/her energies


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I checked our Heliocentric composite

A Grand Trine of:
Earth in 0'38 Gemini
Jupiter in 3'11 Aquarius
Mars in 29'50 Capricorn
Pluto in 3'30 Libra

add Neptune 6'02 Sagittarius, then it's a Kite


Wedge of:
Mercury in 20'06 Sagittarius
Saturn in 23'21 Gemini
Uranus in 21'33 Libra


Mystical Triangle of:
Venus in 2'17 Capricorn
Pluto in 3'30 Libra
Sedna in 2'49 Taurus


Mercury in 20'37 Sagittarius
conjunct South Ceres Node in 20'06 Sagittarius


I am curious about any insights that you have about our Heliocentric Composite

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Wow,what a wealth of information in your previous posts! I guess it will take some time to take it all in for me.

Regarding the helio composite, this one seems intense, and also very "connected" with all these aspect configurations there.

I like that the Grand Trine is mainly in Air, it describes the intellectual aspect of our connection so well.
Mars-Jupiter conjunction seems good for an enthusiasm exchange of viewpoints; since it is tied to Earth this seems to be very much the basis of our Higher Self interaction. And Pluto adds intensity as well as transformation to it. Maybe it means that through this enthusiastic sharing of ideas we evolve?
With Neptune making this a kite (even though the orb is probably kinda wide), this may put the focus on spiritual aspects of life.

I didn`t know what a Wedge was before.
So this is an opposition which appears together with a sextile and trine?
I often noticed that configuration, but never knew it had a name.

In our case it seems to place importants on sharing thoughts, communication and learning again, and it involves as well the old (Saturn) as the new(Uranus). I find that very positive.


The mystical Triangle looks very intense, with two evolutionary objects tied to Venus. I am not sure how to interprete that though. What is your take on it?

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"With Neptune making this a kite (even though the orb is probably kinda wide), this may put the focus on spiritual aspects of life."

Yes..I agree.

"I didn`t know what a Wedge was before.
So this is an opposition which appears together with a sextile and trine?
I often noticed that configuration, but never knew it had a name."

Yes
Roy MacKinnon told me the name. I first read that it was referred to as "Point of Thames"

"In our case it seems to place importants on sharing thoughts, communication and learning again, and it involves as well the old (Saturn) as the new(Uranus). I find that very positive."

I agree. The proof is in how well we get along.


"The mystical Triangle looks very intense, with two evolutionary objects tied to Venus. I am not sure how to interprete that though. What is your take on it?"

I believe that indicates that we value much depth, especially when it comes to the spiritual which some might thing is too far out. I believe that we share compassion for people that have been abused and victimized.

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