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raspberri
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posted June 11, 2010 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
No, not for you teasel.

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Lara
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posted June 11, 2010 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I'd have to say that for some people the "being used by others" energy of the 6th house is pretty important.

Maybe you can relate to that side of the 6th house Rasberri, judging by how much this acute observation from Diana has made you appear pretty defensive?

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raspberri
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posted June 11, 2010 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
How did I get defensive?

I just am not being used so you understand why I was skeptical, ya kno.

I'm tired of this shiz

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Lara
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posted June 11, 2010 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah and it's totally your problem that you PRESUMED that every comment was aimed at you, your majesty!

Sometimes we do generalise, ya know. I never said YOU in my own realisation through Diana's observation. I simply agreed with her so take a chill pill...

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Winged Leo
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posted June 11, 2010 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Winged Leo     Edit/Delete Message
OMG stop provoking people, Lara. Why can't you once be a peace restorer instead of coming up with stupid assumptions about people you don't even know to stir more arguments. lol

Raspberri, Diana said "sometimes" so she wasn't really black and white about her 6th house statement. It's just her one experience of 6th house, that's all. There's nothing to argue about it here.

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Lara
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posted June 11, 2010 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
touche 'freak-ing' turtle

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MyVirgoMask
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posted June 11, 2010 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, this thread really got out of hand. I really like Jane's take on it, btw. It makes a lot of sense to me and it fits perfectly .

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teasel
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posted June 11, 2010 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
I liked Jane's post, as well. I referenced it in my post below hers, but then edited out my own example.

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Winged Leo
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posted June 11, 2010 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Winged Leo     Edit/Delete Message
I won't go down to your level, Lara. You stay where you are. I'm above all that childish crap of yours.

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Diana
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posted June 11, 2010 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
I just wanted to say that wasn't MY experience. I study charts of many people and that is where I come up with my observations on just about everything I comment on in any thread. My answers are generally from a scientific/research POV and not personal unless I say so. Unless I specifically say that it's my experience, it is not. I do research on many charts to become better able to practice astrology, especially for prediction. I think taking myself out of it (in general) makes it more accurate, because I will usually have a pattern of many charts that i have studied to come up with a viewpoint.

I just wanted to clartify this wasn't a personal experience of mine.
Not saying it makes my views better, just clarifying.


I am not commenting on anything unrelated to astrology that has been discussed since my last post, nor will I, in the future.
Carry on.

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Cheshire Kat
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posted June 11, 2010 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cheshire Kat     Edit/Delete Message
"..Travel the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused.."

Doesn't that just sound more 8th house then 6th house though, dealing with other people's resources..?

Don't you ever feel used or felt like using the sign on your 8th house?

Strange how the 6th and 8th house seem similar they both use and heal..I guess..

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jane
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posted June 12, 2010 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
This thread go t the subject on my mind. Tonight my sister and I had our most meaningful and productive convo on this subject.

Thanks LL!!!

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MyVirgoMask
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posted June 12, 2010 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Jane, you said this:
"By serves, I mean cares for and heals. Even dotes. Usually the planet person looks up to the house person in this domain and trusts their care."

You have no idea how much this resonates with me. My Venus - chart ruler - is at the end on my boyfriend's 6th (while my Mars is in his 12th) - he heals a lot of my wounds just through even day to day little things, trust, etc.

...btw, though my asc falls in his 6th (the end of it anyway), we did not meet at work as I've read here. So I don't know if I buy that 100% only because i haven't found it true all the time.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted June 12, 2010 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Egads, I think Diana just repped one possible scenario. Then IQ came in and was all thumbs-up to it which is why it might seem like she's saying that's the way it is, but i don't think she means it that way 100% black or white at all. She did say sometimes, and maybe her own experience hasn't been all peachy, so who knows.
I hate HATE HATE black and white interpretations for astrology myself and they really annoy me, so I understand why it would be annoying to come in and ask about synastry and then hear something which might seem negative at first glance. But I really don't think it was intended that way. It's not like Diana is going, WHATEVER, IT'S NEGATIVE, YOU PEOPLE ARE DELUSIONAL (that's actually more my tone if I don't agree lol).
Anyway...
There's definitely a give and take energy with the 6th (and as per usual, anything 6th house or Virgo related is completely hard to interpret since it's always been glossed over in astro writing as like the house of janitorial service or something. Did anyone see UHF? Michael Richards as the janitor who gets fired then hosts the kid's show and his damn mop becomes a symbol for human struggle? ...Where the hell am I going with this???? Never mind, I'll just have another sip of prosecco....).

Anyway, I call it the house of energy exchanges and experiences. You're actively learning and engaged with life and others with this house.
Nothing negative.
The sweetest houses in synastry also have a dark side too. Two sides of the same coin and all that.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted June 12, 2010 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Cheshire - 6th and 8th seem similar, and the symbols for Scorpio and Virgo are also very similar too

I have felt used more by 8th house experiences. But I've also had some seriously cathartic experiences too. My ex-husband's Mars fell into my 8th while my Pluto, Uranus, and Mercury fell into his 8th. Our composite was in the 8th with an 8th house stellium.
We both walked away feeling used. But alternatively, relationships that end badly tend to have people walking away feeling used on some level too.... 8th house or not.
In this case it was more like we both undid one another to such an extent than neither of us will ever be the same, for better or worse. That's what the 8th house does, if you let it. Not that it matters if you 'let' it. I feel the 8th house kind of has the 'this is happening TO me and I have no control' energy and can turn ugly with some real power struggles unless both people surrender to the powers that be (a higher power which is not the earthly power of either person in the relationship) and allow themselves to be transformed.

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mir
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posted June 12, 2010 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message
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Anyway, I call it the house of energy exchanges and experiences. You're actively learning and engaged with life and others with this house.

That's so very well said. With him, venus/mercury in my 6th, it's like if that/my old familiar pattern/emotion of running away when things become somewhat difficult haven't got a chance anymore.
As if for the first time you feel a responsibility for another that can't be denied.

That's why I can sort of replace myself into his Venus and also the words Jane said about the healing or transforming level of trust and security for HIM.

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lalalinda
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posted June 12, 2010 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
Lara, We love you, you know this

I just got back from a very long, tiresome trip that allowed me very little computer time.
There's no reason to be snippy with each other, and Lara if you have a problem, whether it has anything to do with this thread or not, You can talk to me, either on the boards or privately and I will do my best, but in the meantime please, PLEASE try not to take it out on others, this goes for everybody, ok?

Can we do that?

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Diana
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posted June 13, 2010 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
I've decided I am not posting on LL anymore. This thread isn't really the reason, but it was the proverbial straw.


I feel like I can't read charts here without people freaking out or projecting. Not necessarily the person whose chart i read, but sometimes someone else just reading the thread freaks out.

I don't know if anyone has noticed, but I haven't done a chart reading in depth here in a long long time. I'm afraid to. I feel I'm walking on eggshells regarding readings.

The way I was treated in this thread was RIDICULOUS. I did absolutely nothing wrong. I initially said "sometimes." Then, after people got huffy, I clarified it, but it was like I never even did so, because people just continued to act as if I never clarified what I meant. I can't believe no one thinks some of the people who were outraged at the people with less than glorious reviews weren't rude and can't see they were out of line. Raspberri was so rude to anyone who had a different view than hers and I seriously cannot believe no one said anything. I feel like I am living in the midst of some weird social insanity here. Anyway, it doesn't matter.

I've been feeling this way for a bit now. I've started to post somewhere else and I gave a reading without feeling like I had to be very careful about what I was saying and I was shocked to find out the person was thrilled that I could nail a pattern they had, but didn't realize until I pointed it out. They said I really helped them. I was so humbled and was glad to know that. Here, I would've been yelled at. I was actually scared they were going to yell at me when they responded even though what I wrote was not at all rude or inappropriate. I feel this thread is a metaphor for how I've been feeling for a bit and why I haven't been doing readings. It's a real problem for me that I feel that way and this thread was just a catalyst for me to finally do something about it.


I WILL MISS A LOT OF PEOPLE!!! I'M NOT AT ALL MAD. IT'S JUST TIME TO MOVE ON...HAS BEEN FOR AWHILE, I SUPPOSE. I WILL MOST LIKELY BE BACK, BECAUSE I DO LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE. AND THERE IS GOOD INFO HERE TOO. I JUST WON'T POST AT ALL AS FREQUENTLY AS I USED TO.

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teasel
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posted June 13, 2010 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
I wasn't being huffy with you (I wasn't outraged) - I was serious when I said that I was glad you mentioned what you did - and I'll miss you here.


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Diana
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posted June 13, 2010 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
I know, Teasel. I wasn't talking about you. I'll miss you to!

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Dolphin07
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posted June 13, 2010 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dolphin07     Edit/Delete Message
Diana I really enjoyed reading your insights. I am sorry you are leaving.

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Ami Ann
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posted June 13, 2010 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Don't go away ,Diana. I don't talk to you ,often, but I have SO much respect for you as a serious Astrologer.
I am new and could only hope one day to get as good as you are.
I was amazed how you did on that mystery of the couple.
Please--reconsider that there are silent people like me who appreciate you and all you have to offer on LL!


Ami

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starkiss1
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posted June 13, 2010 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
Diana,
I second Ami.

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Diana
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posted June 13, 2010 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you both, but I cannot stay when I have been feeling like this for awhile. This thread just gave me the push I needed. I was thinking about it (leaving) all yesterday. Then I came back here today and Lalinda's post just totally sealed it for me, because I really feel something is totally wrong here. Or maybe it's just me. Either way, I am glad it happened because it's time to move on. Evolve.


I will most definitely be back, but I don't know how much or in depth I will post.

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Ami Ann
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posted June 13, 2010 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Well, Diana, before you leave, I want to tell you about my experience on another Board.
This was supposed to HELP you with family problems but there would always be a few people just wanting to peck at you to get their ire out.
I vowed NOT to let any of them on this Board bother me cuz they have no power if you don't play back with them
Of course, I am not so bold as to tell you what to do --but it is a shame to let a few people run the show.
That is just my opinion.

Ami

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