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Ami Ann
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posted June 19, 2010 01:47 PM
  
I am going to give my impressions and see if you agree/disagree--etc
I think Pluto/Venus feels like a tidal wave
Pluto/Moon feels tender
Pluto/Mars feels like you could lose control and hurt them LOL
My only personal experience with Pluto/Mars conjunctions is my Mars being violated by an exact conjunction from both of my parent's Pluto's (pulling hair out icon)
My only personal experience with Pluto/Neptune is both of my parents Neptunes in exact conjunction with MY Pluto.
This made me eat so many lies that I could not see straight 
 Ami
PS If you care to elaborate with personal stories--that would be great! IP: Logged |
Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted June 19, 2010 06:25 PM
Pluto-VenusWhen I was Venus in the opposition it felt like he was very insecure and manipulative due that insecurity. When I was Pluto it felt like I was suddenly being shown SO much affection. This guy was just in love - period. But I had a bf at the time and this drove him to attempt suicide. Mind you - I've had these aspects dozens of times with dozens of people (since I have it in natal).. I'm only talking about those times when it was activated for whatever reason. Very often, it wasn't activated at all. Pluto/Moon I have this with someone and he is the Pluto. It just feels emotionally understanding and supportive. I know that I can count on him. I know that he gets my earthy emotion. It also feels healing. Pluto/Mars I'm usually the Pluto in Pluto-Mars conjunctions and oppositions.
In the oppositions I get frustrated.. because I see the Mars person as a "rebellious child" who has no clue what they are doing and sometimes carelessly hurts others. I have a drive to stop them - and give them a dose of *depth* to match their superficiality. In conjunctions I feel like I found a best friend who is there - like a "right hand" person - a "partner in crime" lol
Many significant people in my life have Mars in Scorpio conjunct my Pluto (my mother, my grandmother, my childhood friend, my first real love, a VIP whose work I am intently studying right now). IP: Logged |
Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted June 19, 2010 06:27 PM
Just wanted to say - it's difficult to take these aspects out of context.. because many things come into the synastry - and the vibe is a mixture of so many different aspects (positive and negative).For instance my Pluto is already molded and changed by my natal aspects..
Pluto trines Jupiter in Pisces.
Pluto sextiles Mars/Neptune in Capricorn.
Pluto is opposite Taurus Venus.
Pluto is conjunct SN
So my Pluto acts with all of this planetary mix behind it.. That might be very different to another person's Pluto. IP: Logged |
raspberri
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posted June 19, 2010 08:44 PM
I'm not a fan of Pluto badly aspecting Venus in synastry. Someone's Pluto was square my Venus and It was simply unrequited love. Sometimes I would wonder how someone could love me so much, but then I just realized that he just loved the way I looked. Maybe he didn't love me; Just loved my femininity way too much. But I have someone new whose Pluto is trine my Mercury/Venus (wide) and he speaks three languages which turns me on! Pluto is only good with trines I think. I don't like the bad aspects. They are doomed!!! IP: Logged |
A_L_F
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posted June 20, 2010 03:04 AM
Yes good aspects good, bad aspects bad.
You gotta harness in the good energy. Block out the bad.
Harness energy, block bad.  Ok? ------------------
I came here to learn, but soon realised i was the teacher, and that i was going to learn nothing except perhaps tolerance. IP: Logged |
Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted June 20, 2010 03:42 AM
 ^^ Serenity Now. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted June 20, 2010 03:44 AM
Much like "wipe on, wipe off"?IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted June 20, 2010 03:47 AM
I agree with raspberri about the trines. I find them more settled, much easier to deal with. Oppositions, squares and conjunctions cause me too much stress and I don't like them - too much questioning and I like to feel more secure than that.IP: Logged |
Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted June 20, 2010 03:47 AM
haha  Man - I missed you guys! IP: Logged |
hodad
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posted June 20, 2010 04:13 AM
I think when you have Pluto conjunct,square or opposite someone's Sun both of you are utterly obsessed and completely fascinated with the other person.I think it overrides all aspects as far as passion and intensity are concerned.If I have this with someone I will be completely smitten regardless of all other aspects.IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted June 20, 2010 04:22 AM
hodadDo you find that also has the potential to become equally an intense hate relationship (after the love)? IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
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posted June 20, 2010 04:29 AM
I don't think pluto + sun aspects are that important.
I'm a virgo, and both of my parent's pluto's are like tightly conjuncting my sun.They are protective and aren't the most lenient of all parents, but I wouldn't say they're obsessed with me. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted June 20, 2010 04:31 AM
mintI think that it plays out differently in a romantic or sexual dynamic. The needs, expectations and feelings aren't the same as a parental relationship. Of course, there have to be other binding factors/aspects too, and not just one aspect. IP: Logged |
Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted June 20, 2010 04:37 AM
I felt love-hate with Mars-Pluto - but only the squares and oppositions. quote:
there have to be other binding factors/aspects too, and not just one aspect
V. True! IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted June 20, 2010 04:41 AM
Pluto confuses me in synastry. Does the Pluto person become infatuated or consumed by the other or does the Pluto person bring that out in the other person? I've read different things on this one and have experienced it varyingly.IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted June 20, 2010 04:51 AM
I've always found Pluto to be stubborn and controlling to the point of being stifling.I can appreciate it in other people but I'm thankful it's not prominent in my chart. as for inner-aspects, if it touches on a sensitive point in my chart I feel it and shy away. (actually, run) Fire signs don't deal well with that kind of intensity, (we're spontaneous) it makes us self conscious.  Out babes IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted June 20, 2010 05:12 AM
Wonderful answers . Thank you  ! x o Ami IP: Logged |
Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted June 20, 2010 05:16 AM
PA - quote:
Does the Pluto person become infatuated or consumed by the other or does the Pluto person bring that out in the other person?
I've seen stories going either way ^ But in my personal experience, it's the other planet - not Pluto.
The most obvious example was the guy with Scorpio Venus conjunct my Pluto at 0' deg and Leo Moon square my Pluto who attempted suicide. I did care about him, but not in the same way he did.. I was not obsessed. He also told me that he felt "degraded" by his love for me, because of the things he did to get my attention. He said he "sunk" very low. From my perspective I was minding my own life, completely unaware that I had this impact.
But when I was Venus I felt that way myself. I found the Pluto person very depressing, after a while - and I felt betrayed. With the negative aspects there can often be a feeling of "betrayal". Lala
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Fire signs don't deal well with that kind of intensity, (we're spontaneous) it makes us self conscious.
I know what you mean. I have Venus-Pluto in natal and I do like the intensity - but there's a part of me that wants something lighter and less problematic lol IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted June 20, 2010 05:17 AM
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I agree with raspberri about the trines. I find them more settled, much easier to deal with. Oppositions, squares and conjunctions cause me too much stress and I don't like them - too much questioning and I like to feel more secure than that
This was my impression ,too,about the conjunctions. My Pluto conjunctions in Synastry practically killed me but they were with my parents
However, I don't think I would like them in a romantic relationship.
Perhaps, as Dy-na said,with a close friend or business partner where the meeting of the minds and souls could be intense but not so overpowering that you could not breathe LOL.
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Ami Ann
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posted June 20, 2010 05:25 AM
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I think when you have Pluto conjunct,square or opposite someone's Sun both of you are utterly obsessed and completely fascinated with the other person.I think it overrides all aspects as far as passion and intensity are concerned.If I have this with someone I will be completely smitten regardless of all other aspects.
Dear Hoodad,
This is so interesting that you say this cuz I just did a synastry for my friend and his ex-wife.
It was like a forensic synastry lol
The marriage was long term but not close. The woman loved the man but the man did not return attraction at all and love very little.
It was sad.
The man, my friend, and I wanted to SEE what a synastry for a marriage that fell apart would like and how we could reconcile the aspects with the failure of the marriage.
What struck me was a DW of Sun/Pluto (1-3 degrees)
To me, there were no attraction aspects to the whole chart and he agreed with this--from his side.
To answer your question of why he got married when he was not attracted--if you have that question lol.
He felt pressured cuz he was older and not married. He as drinking too much--at the time--too--which impaired his judgment but it was social pressure.
Ami
PS I am NOT saying this did not work as an attraction element for you, Hoodad, or anyone else.
For this man--it did not.
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posted June 20, 2010 05:26 AM
Ami - I think my case is different because I am the Pluto person, in situations where the Mars person is the one in a position of "power".. So that levels the scores. Maybe you'd like a Leo Mars person conjunct your Pluto. A lot depends (I find) on how Pluto uses their insight into the other persons psychology and whether they choose to be protective & helpful.. or not. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted June 20, 2010 05:32 AM
Hi Dy-na.
I wish they had a waving icon lol.
I was thinking about your natal chart.
You have a strong "negative" Pluto/Venus aspect--the opposition.
I am thankful to God--lol--- that Pluto was good to me in the natal chart.
I have only sextiles and Pluto conjunct MC.
I don't have hard Pluto power to deal with in the natal chart.
Ami
PS --Yes--to answer your question about a conjunction with a different sign and a different person---I won't rule it out IP: Logged |
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posted June 20, 2010 05:50 AM
lol About my Pluto/Venus.. I've had it my whole life - I'm used to it.
I don't think much about it - I guess I just live with it.
It's extra emphasized by my NN-SN which are conjunct Venus and Pluto respectively. It's an OK aspect though.. It definitely doesn't come close to being as dramatic as Liz Greene portrays it. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted June 20, 2010 05:52 AM
Dyna
How would you interpret the Pluto--Venus being conjunct NN and SS?
Thanks so much! Ami IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted June 20, 2010 05:56 AM
DynThat's interesting. I was with someone whose Pluto (and Sun) opposed my Moon and even though at times I really hated him and hated being with him, it was a very hard tie to break, but when I did (and it was very definite and final) he threatened to kill himself. I was so tired of him and the whole dynamic by that stage that I just told him that I didn't care. IP: Logged |
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