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bopbop
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posted June 25, 2010 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bopbop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What Ruben says.

Though I might also interject "mutable" signs might be more prone to indiscretion. If there is a problem they just whatever and move on with or without you... Gemini being both air and mutable... probably, based on that, the most likely dirty rotten two faced cheatin' Mars. If Mars was to be cornered all by his lonesome.

Okay hopefully no one with this placement will come an egg me now...

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posted June 29, 2010 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heh heh, I have a mutable mars, and I was completely monogamous for 15 years! However, once I found out that it was not reciprocated, I did cheat.
However, being a sag sun, I never lied about it.
I wasn't being vindictive either, it was just like, ok, if it's acceptable for you to do, then it's acceptable for me to do.
I think this is the fairness thing that comes with a Libra moon.

RE: what someone said about the masturbation thing..
My Scorpio ex wanted nothing to do with sexual toys, hearing about masturbation, having a threesome (which was FINE with me, I didn't want to share him anyway, but after awhile almost every guy I've ever been with brings this up. HEY! maybe I'm boring in bed, just thought of that!) AND, my favorite thing about him was, he was into giving oral sex, but didn't want to get it!! He said that "that is what (fill in your own derogatory female term here, so I don't get edited) do!"
He had a Virgo Mars.

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posted June 29, 2010 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No eggs, but I have a mutable Moon, Venus and Mars, and I'm all about honesty, not cheating.

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GypseeWind
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posted June 29, 2010 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No I don't have a mutable mars, what the heck am I thinking. Oh, just ignore me, this is what overwork gets you, sheesh. I have a mutable sun and venus. oops.

Good for you Teasel. I admire that ALOT.
(Are we having mutual insomnia these days or what??)

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posted June 29, 2010 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol Gypsee!

I was with a mutable Mars for a long time and I am pretty sure he did not cheat. He had a long history of avoiding relationships though, which is different. Once he was actually in one, he didn't cheat (not that i know of lol).

It does depend entirely on the person.
This is one of those things where I go, astrology is not going to tell you if someone is a liar/cheater/whatever - everyone's chart works differently !

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posted June 29, 2010 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Good for you Teasel. I admire that ALOT.
(Are we having mutual insomnia these days or what??)

I fell asleep on the couch this afternoon, and was in and out of sleep for about eleven hours.

I got up around 12:30am, and don't know what to do with myself. I checked the website that had been left open for my aunt and uncle's flight, and refreshed every so often, until I knew it landed safely. Now I need a shower, and to get on with things - difficult when I need to be as quiet as possible, because everyone else is snoozing.

(I understand what you said above, about cheating being okay for you, if it was okay with your husband, by the way. I was trying to remember what your Mars was ~ I thought it wasn't mutable. )

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posted June 29, 2010 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a mutable moon and venus but I'm not a fan of mutable mars due to personal experiences.

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posted June 29, 2010 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OH, YEAH, this guy, the Virgo Mars was an expert at avoiding relationships as well.

But, see, his thing was, and I guess it's maybe part of being a sco sun, was that he would never let go of any of his ex's.
I don't know for sure that he cheated with all of them, I just know that he would always have to contact them every so often, usually with some comment referring to their shared pasts, or a pix text of the two of them (he's doing this to me now, since he's with someone else) WHICH is a major mind game and a form of emotional manipulation. He has a cancer asc, NOT that I'm blaming that, but with his venus/moon in sag, and the age that he is, he just shouldn't get himself in the position to have to commit, but yet he always does!
Sorry if that's off topic!

(wow, Teasel, you WERE tired!! :heart

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posted June 29, 2010 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

My ex was a Scorpio Sun with a Virgo Mars square Neptune. Before I got to know him, and even now, I had the feeling he was a serial monogamer or whatever you call it. To be fair, he had a Libra Venus too...and he did use to attract people who treated him pretty badly (dang pisces moon). Anyways, it was okay for him to have female friends/be an outrageous flirt, yet if I was seen talking to a guy I may casually know...he'd sulk and get all moody. Like WTF?

Men with mutable mars I've found to be tricky/doublestandardish...particularly when arguing a point, and that gets on my nerves. Another example is all the gemini mars' I've come across. Oh God.

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posted June 29, 2010 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh definetly, BM

This guy use to flirt with waitresses right in front of me, to the point of my embaressment.
Then one night we went to a club, and we were just sitting there watching tv, and this guy next to me asked a simple, random question (like the weather, news update, whatever) and I answered him.
When I turned around my ex was GONE!

He called me from the parking lot and said I was being disrespectful. Lord have mercy, how did I put up with that for 3 years!

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posted June 29, 2010 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in Scorpio gets problematic between 18 and 20 degrees Scorpio, where it meets the Node of Mars and the Fixed Star Alpha Serpentis.

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** Gemini being both air and mutable... probably, based on that, the most likely dirty rotten two faced cheatin' Mars. If Mars was to be cornered all by his lonesome. .. Okay hopefully no one with this placement will come an egg me now... **


gemini moon 12th
gemini mars 11th
gemini jupiter 11th

have never 'cheated' on a lover ..
don't aim to change that personal value either ..

taurus sun 11th ..

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posted June 29, 2010 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HD

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posted June 29, 2010 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While we're on the topic of Mars-in-Scorpio bashing, I can speak from experience that they *can* be loyal, and my fiance, a sun sign Gemini, with Mars in Scorpio and Mercury&Venus in Taurus is very loyal, and definitely only a one-woman dude. He's warmly possessive, but nowhere near neurotic or psychotic like some of the other Mars in Scorp dudes described. The two serious relationships he's ever had were with an Aquarius (4.5 years) and myself (4.5 years and counting), and he's just turned 26.

Mars-in-Scorpio doesn't share well, but if you're attracted to these dudes, you probably aren't looking for just a fling either. They can be a bit brooding, and do hold onto old hurts, but they are more than capable of investing in the long-term because like many Fixed signs, they don't particularly like change, so why enter into something unless it's worthwhile?

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posted June 29, 2010 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey there! I haven't been here for a while so for self-punishment I'll come to the Mars in Scorpio bashing thread. Haha ... yes, I confess, I have Mars in Scorpio, and my ... uhm ... history isn't ... uhm ... pretty. So I'll read through the thread and try to give some insight into the mysterious and cruel mind of Scorpio Mars-ers ...

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posted June 29, 2010 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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never trust someone with Mars in Scorpio because they are prone to having secretive affairs and are cheaters in general
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Well, let me put it this way, if I had a relationship with me, I would totally trust me ... to surprise me out of the blue with a sudden interest in someone else or a fling with someone else or something like that ... In every relationship I've ever had I have had secretive affairs ... sometimes for real, sometimes in my mind only. Actually I thought this was my Saggitarius sun or Uranus in my seventh ... but if Mars in Scorpio indicates cheating in relationships, I guess I'd go along with that, yep. Maybe I'm a bit of a psychopath or a sociopath in that way because I didn't feel this as a burden on my conscience and in fact I got angry with my partners for being jealous. But I've also not gotten extremely upset if I felt someone cheated on me. The thing is, with me it's hard to tell, because I have a huge sexual trauma of incest in my past, and in my twenties I was very promiscuous ... Personally I think it was a s a result of the trauma ... Anyway, the strange thing is, sex never really satisfied me ... I think I was like searching for the thrill but I was always like ... uhm, yes, OK, but I still don't feel like I'm riding a comet's tail you know ...

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posted June 29, 2010 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faitinkerbell
Are you a male or a female?

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posted June 29, 2010 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tink is female Ami.
I'm only answering for her because she has limited computer time.

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posted June 29, 2010 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars in Scorpio conjunct Neptune and MC
I could relate to much of what tink said minus the incest...
Although, with a loaded 8th house... trauma nonetheless.

iq...
I have the dreaded 19' degree... any further thoughts on this?
Problematic doesn't even begin to cover it.

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fatinkerbell
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posted June 29, 2010 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 29, 2010 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aaaw Gypsee ... wow you're covering for me and that is really wonderful : ) It's true I've been uber busy but I'm really sick and tired of primary school children and this grown up topic is appealing to me so I'm neglecting summer camp preparations in order to bare my Marsy Scorpio Soul ...
So I'm gonna read through the topic and say what resonates with me (I never knew Mars in Scorpio had such a bad rap!!!) Anyways Gypsee how are you? Is yout grandbaby huge yet? : D

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posted June 29, 2010 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The other one I knew was very manipulative in how he went about things. But he had a lot of Scorpio, not just Mars. He was good natured (lots of Jupiter). Usually the "deviousness" was omitting important details of a situation that completely changed the meaning... so he'd always be truthful but at the same time you wouldn't actually know what was going on unless you investigated further.
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OK when I read this the following came into my mind: The scene from A Few Good Men where Jack Nicholson goes: "You want the truth? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!"

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posted June 29, 2010 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I forgot to mention that I don't really have problems with Scorpio Mars women. In fact, one of my good friends has this and while she's tiny, she's not to be trifled with.
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posted June 29, 2010 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, there you are, K, I will let you speak for yourself now!! (grandbaby is huge, I can barely lift him, OMG, and she won't feed him baby food, of course, I plan on feeding it to him next time she turns her back, otherwise he wants a bottle every 45 minutes, k, carry on!!)

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posted June 29, 2010 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So ... confessions of a Scorpio on Mars. Or a Scorpio from Mars. Or ... well, just picture it ... Mars = War and Scorpio = Poison. Sheesh sometimes I don't want to meet myself in a dark alleyway! One thing with me though is that in the relationships I've had where my 'faithfullness' or 'commitment' or 'distance' was at issue, I actually discussed it (a lot) with my partners ... And that's a sign that those relationships were VERY serious for me ... I would say I've basically had two important relationships in my life ... first, (after the promiscuous phase) with a Cancer dude two years older than me ... It was very intense and very good and the 'problem' at that time was that when I first met Cancer I had a huge crush on his friend. Said friend was one of my last 'flings' because when I started going steady with Cancer I was totally committed. What happened though is that I went on a university archeology dig where I met a guy who reminded me of my boyfriend because he had long hair and then I became a bit obsessed with him for a couple of days and it blew over ... but nothing happened. It was just weird for me that I would feel both 'hey my bf is soooo the best' and ' hey, this guy's interesting' as if there were no conflict ... I think maybe because I knew I was in a relationship I knew I wouldn't want to start another relationship so my bf was safe and I thought a little harmless mind-wandering could do no harm ... However my Cancer BF's main problem with me was what we called my 'confusion' - where I felt like I really loved him and would love him for ever, but on the other hand it was as if something was just not quite right. Actually that something is something I can totally put my finger on now that I think of it ... I wanted a relationship that was all-consuming, tempestuous, suicidal even, the kind of 'lets f%#@ in the flames and shock hell with our passion' kind of thing : ) Yeah I know I know. So it was simply that although the relationship was really a good one it was too intellectual for me. So like Goldilocks I was like ... this is not quite right. We ended our relationship very amicably and continued to be extremely good friends for many more years than we were actually in a relationship ... I mean were in a relationship for two years and a friendship for more than ten years.

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