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Topic: Is it too hard to say, "I Like You." for a Pisces Sun/Venus male?
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 1752 From: Ohio Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 01, 2010 06:53 PM
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eskimono Knowflake Posts: 637 From: uk Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 01, 2010 07:03 PM
ooh - now Teasel, you can't just leave it at that! That is my biggest fear. People are attracted to us because we are strong (generally their words). I am strong, but like any normal human I have moments of weakness, self-doubt, irrationality. So, for the people that are attracted to us, dare we show this? I am intrigued as to your experience. IP: Logged |
StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 90 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 01, 2010 07:12 PM
Dynamitee~ Actually he and I became close friends due to him 'counseling' me. I have even told him ... You saved me at my lowest and are still saving me. However, I am independent and display self-esteem. I think it is a balance with me. I can handle my own most of the time, but need/want to lean on him when I am having a bad day, feeling sad. Another thing he has mentioned is that he loves my confidence. I can tell he does not mind helping me get through anything. It comes natural to him.After this reflection, I suppose we are doing all right. Key: * be mysterious * have him believe he is a savior with a blend of your own confidence (very smart) * sex is beautiful * allow him space to do his thing * deep glances, intense eye contact = sexy * does not think he is worthy even when you insist he is the best * when a jerk does not realize it, but when brought to his attention will say, "It was never my intention to hurt you. I'm sorry." Get this one ... Today he said, "I have not figured you out." I'm still fishin' girls! IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 1752 From: Ohio Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 01, 2010 07:22 PM
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posted July 01, 2010 07:33 PM
Teasel - About you & Taurus - I have a feeling it's nowhere near over. But it's just a hunch. You seem very compatible sign-wise. That was immature of him, but maybe it was a spur of the moment comment. Is that possible?eskimono - That's very true. I have the same self-doubt problems etc but it's interesting from the outside they are never noticed. I think I deal with them, myself.. Maybe what appears as strength is the fact that I'm usually self-healing, self-helping, self-sufficient lol Rather than asking another. I think this is what Pisceans ^^ interpret as "strength" - and when they begin to feel like they are no longer needed. Even the most jerky Pisces you can imagine can get coaxed into being a saint, if you have a problem. For example, one of my Pisces friends stayed married for another 3 years (after the point when he said he wants out) because his wife faked ailments, problems, illnesses, she often pretended she collapsed and dragged him to the hospital. She was casually laughing with someone on the phone and telling them how gullible Mr Pisces is. Even though we overheard a lot of that (me and another friend), the Pisces guy -still- believed her. In contrast to something like that ^ I guess I'm a strong person.. because even if I HAD those problems, I still wouldn't completely rely on him. That's what Pisces sees as "she is OK without me.." Stellium - That sounds really good! I think it's great that you have a balance. It's all a give and take. They definitely need to feel needed, those Pisces boys. While he feels he can help and "save" you, it's likely he won't be going anywhere. IP: Logged |
StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 90 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 01, 2010 07:35 PM
Has anyone had a long, successful, and happy relationship with a full-blown Pisces guy?? Oh my!IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 1752 From: Ohio Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 01, 2010 07:36 PM
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posted July 01, 2010 07:43 PM
Stellium -- I had a long unsuccessful one... I don't know if I'd call it a relationship though. We were each others' first love and it lasted almost a decade from school to early 20s. But very on and off and stormy. He is actually a double Pisces (Sun & Moon). I do know a couple who have been together about 30 years (family friends).. I don't remember the rest of their charts, just that she is Aries and he is Pisces. I love this woman though so she might have something in common with me (like Capricorn.. it's possible.. I'll ask for their birth dates again). Teasel - You know... I think it's just passionate with both of you. Would you say that's the case? I think this is the guy who had Aries Mercury as well.. Your mutual Aries could get fiesty in an argument. I think it's very possible that it will blow over.
:edit: OH ok I didn't realize it was an older comment LOL IP: Logged |
enchantress299 Knowflake Posts: 163 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 01, 2010 07:51 PM
quote: The problem is - Pisces much prefers playing saviour, to being the one "saved".. Astrologers always refer to Neptune/Pisces placements as having a saviour-victim complex. But it's interesting that many of the Pisces I know strongly want to be the *saviour* - It's a much stronger drive and desire..
That's right on. The Pisces guy that I'm good friends with LOVES to play savior. Usually he finds some very scattered/messed up air signed women or very self-centered/messed up fire signed women to play savior to. (I'm not saying all air signed women are scattered/messed up or that all fire signed women are self-centered/messed up... It's just that the ones he finds ARE that way). I *think* that the reason he does this is because he doesn't think very highly of himself (you all were talking about the Piscean self-criticism) and so he doesn't feel that he can take care of a woman who is more confident or self sufficient. I think, for Pisceans, the romantic ideal tends to be that the man takes care of the woman in some way, or has to fulfill some need in her that no one else can fulfill, so when he sees a woman who is fulfilled on her own, he gets scared and runs off thinking that he's not needed. Pisceans like feeling needed. Now that I think about it, I actually think it's the 'being needed' part that is more important (over playing savior). IP: Logged |
GypseeWind Moderator Posts: 3965 From: Dayton,Ohio USA Registered: May 2009
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posted July 01, 2010 08:04 PM
Re: long sucessful relationships..The Pisces guy that I talk to was with the mother of his kids for 15 years. He said the last 7 or so were awful, and he just stayed for the kids. He had his own bedroom, etc.. Then he went on a business trip to Dallas, met a girl on an airplane and married her before the month was up. She was a total mess, and she did a number on him, honestly, I don't think he'll ever get over it. He never married the first girl, btw. IP: Logged |
StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 90 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 01, 2010 08:09 PM
Enchantress~ Yes! I remember saying to him more than once, "I am so glad you came into my life." Now, this comment is absolutely the truth, but not knowing that this really does make him feel extra good! Wow!  IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 284 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 02, 2010 08:11 AM
I totally agree about that "being needed" part. I've a 12th house Sun and even as a woman I don't like the strong powerful perfect man because they simply scare me off, they won't need me or maybe they need me on THEIR terms which ofcourse could be the effect of being not-really-needed and I'm absolutely allergic to that. My guy is a Pisces and he has and experienced the same thing. The girls before him just wanted sex (that's how he saw it, he felt 'used' and not really needed) or/and were trying to change him & his way of life to fit him into their lives (not really needed; in their eyes he was the victim that must be saved) aaaghhhh! There must be balance ofcourse. IP: Logged |
bopbop Knowflake Posts: 248 From: USA Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 04, 2010 03:08 AM
This thread is so helpful! Good stuff on Pisces... I am glad Stellium asked because I don't have experience with them and this is quite insightful. Some of the things I've said to make the Pisces I'm with "swoon" is always along the lines of being needed/appreciated. Also I could say I am famished and he'd jump to find me a meal... and as long as I am grateful for this (which indeed I am, I'm not used to being treated this way at all) he gets buttery. It's cute.A super-Pisces statement of the day: "I say, give people their fantasies. They like to delude themselves anyway." Which I replied, "Oh, I see you are combining your arrogance with your need to please others." He liked that. See, thanks to you all this is getting easy. lol IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 284 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 04, 2010 07:11 PM
Lol. You know, I said to my Pisces; "You, as a Pisces, you are EVERYTHING!" (explained; you carry all the !@#$% & lovely things of the 11 signs before yours with you)Since he has a Chines tattoo symbol for zodiac sign Pisces on his arm - without knowing anything about astrology - I feel very justified to give him MY playful introduction to astrology. And guess what.. he's soo proud of being EVERYTHING and repeates it time after time. Leo-ascendant? Ofcourse! The first time I saw his parents, his dad said to me; "He ALWAYS wanted to be in the limelight!" For this Pisces, it absolutely isn't/wasn't too hard to say: I LOVE YOU! (like you etc.)
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 1752 From: Ohio Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2010 07:18 PM
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StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 90 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 08, 2010 09:40 PM
I was hanging out with my Pisces pal today and he was distant and preoccupied. At that moment I tell him, I want to kick your a$$. You p me off. He says back, I don't mean to.He tells me that I should clear my mind. His mind is clear enough for the two of us! A few hours later, now I am seeing the situation through his Pisces brain. I have to keep remembering ... he'll 'come back' again!
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StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 90 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 16, 2010 06:56 PM
I have learned that Pisces males need time with their thoughts and to recharge alone. They like short intervals of lively conversations.Well, today I opted in giving him his space. I said, "I know you need your own time, so I will let you be and get back in the swing with work." He responds back, "No biggie." and continues to ask me a question about my week. Is that a step for him and us?  IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 284 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 17, 2010 08:38 AM
"No biggie"  Well, that's the first step to fire off a regular row of rhyming diminutives POLLYLOLLYFOLLYROLLYTROLLEYDOLLY.. (in my pisces-experience) be prepared on a caricature of that part of your body you hate most, like "pot belly piggie" 
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StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 90 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 17, 2010 12:28 PM
Hi Mir. I am not following you. Showing my ignorance regarding the Pisces male I guess.My intrepretation of "No biggie." was that it was ok I was interrupting his work day (which is very important to him)and that he did not want to conclude our chat. Am I being optimistic?? IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 284 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 17, 2010 02:30 PM
Oow...I interpreted (just) "biggie" as a sort of sweet nickname for you at that moment (there was reason enough for him to call you that way), and so it rang a bell here of all those sweet nicknames for you in the offing. Maybe "biggie" is just a real/your name? Hm.. this isn't my mother language so I may have it wrong.
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 1752 From: Ohio Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 17, 2010 05:09 PM
I think by "no biggie", he meant it was no big deal. IP: Logged |
StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 90 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 17, 2010 06:33 PM
I think so too Teasel. Thanks Mir for responding.  So, is that a step in the right direction for my Pisces friend when I was prepared to offer him his freedom for the afternoon and he declined? I noticed his answer was not explicitly straightforward ("No biggie." Not a big deal.), though that is common behavior for a Pisces. When I read his words a huge smile and chuckle came out as I am starting to understand better! IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 581 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted August 17, 2010 08:04 PM
"No biggie." and continues to ask me a question about my week. In my opinion, he's saying.. IT's not a big deal you interrupted, but I do have a few minutes so its fine.. Its not a problem. Im in no way upset..
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mir Knowflake Posts: 284 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 17, 2010 08:47 PM
Thanks Teasel.. and o f c o u r s e !Lol Stellium, it's so nice to be a witness of your subtle Pisces-exploration... I haven't really gone through that phase with my pisces. It was an immediate YES (clear but less exciting). We knew what we wanted I guess - both totally done with the vague confusing connections we shared with others, both aware how hard it is to find someone to get along with in the genuine romantic sphere.. without all the (unspoken) requirements to change/../... And yes, your behavior (great! and.. with FEELING) and his reply could definitely mean a step in the right direction. I will tell you that for me it's the first time that I'm involved with a Pisces (romantically), and I really, never really experienced such a pure vulnerable honesty in a man. The fact is, that's why I love him. Taking advantage of him is an easy thing to do (he confirmed it).
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StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 90 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 18, 2010 12:38 PM
Thank-you, Thank-you! It is a stable, sweet hold we have together. Happy there is hot sexuality mixed in there too! My personal fire signs need that, no doubt!IP: Logged |