posted August 26, 2010 08:31 AM         

The big question: is it really physical or psychological? You can imagine what the psychiatrist told and kept telling him after a few physical check-ups and wormcures..
I pushed him to fight for more solid physical exam. We went to his family doctor together and I convinced her that he absolutely needs more physical clearness.
(which wasn't easy!)

I've seriously thought about starting a new topic about it, but well ..

Sun-pisces (which chart-ruler) square to Neptune .. (only aspect his Sun makes)

posted August 27, 2010 01:44 AM         

I would try to move near a sea-side area - for some time -(ocean would be even better)with this man and encourage him to swim daily.

Whether it is psychological or physical - he will self-heal, if given the right environment.
He needs calm, quiet + large body of water and no judgments whatsoever regarding his mental sanity - which will probably only serve to infuriate him and make him feel alone.

I understand that a doctor (any doctor - BUT in particular a family doctor, as they are not the brightest or friendliest tools in the shed in my experience) can make you feel quite silly at times, simply FOR walking through the door and say "HEY-I think I have a problem".

Were I to be in your shoes I would not give two cents about this kind of condescending doctor-ly behaviour.

Please do not call yourself or Mr Pisces crazy.. I have heard many stories of patients being correct while their doctors were COMPLETE and UTTER morons.

And whatever you do - DO NOT - let him catch on that you believe he has psychological problems and that you are trusting doctors (specially ones who seem patronizing, hard-nosed, know-it-all and condescending). This will only worsen the situation and he will distance from you & lose trust in your friendship.

Not everyone trusts modern medicine. I sure as hell don't and have many reasons not to.
If he does not trust these particular tests, that is his prerogative.

A doctor who makes you FEEL like an idiot for coming in and asking for help - is not a doctor I would bother with at all.

That is why HE or SHE is there. That is their purpose. That is what they are paid for. If as a patient you want to have some particular tests and you have reasons - it should be your choice. You should not have to "convince" anyone.

I knew a man who died of a pulmonary embolism - because they refused to test him for blood cloths - although he insisted he needed to be tested.

I know another girl who has a recognized shoulder problem and is in excruciating shoulder pain - and NO medical tests/exams she had have come up with anything.
Docs are simply throwing their hands in the air saying "well it could be anything. continue physio and it should go away".
That's all they do.
Sometimes they simply do NOT know.. and the tests are not 100%.

Unfortunately doctors are not wizards. Many times they have NO clue.

What I would say to Mr Pisces - My Mercury is Pisces so maybe this can help -- is:
Even if he had 100 tests and eventually they FOUND what he thinks has.. they STILL wouldn't heal him imo

So it is entirely pointless.

Only he can HEAL himself in this situation.
(whether the problem is physical or psychological).
I believe this is the message he can take away from this situation.

posted August 27, 2010 06:13 PM         

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And whatever you do - DO NOT - let him catch on that you believe he has psychological problems and that you are trusting doctors (specially ones who seem patronizing, hard-nosed, know-it-all and condescending). This will only worsen the situation and he will distance from you & lose trust in your friendship.

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Very well said!
In the beginning it was very hard to believe this parasite-in-body story and I reacted just like his parents, friends, psychiatrist & family doctor (but they never stopped not taking hem seriously - the all-alone story!)
It's mainly the cause that made it hard to believe.
A few years ago he took a pill with 2 parasites in it in a cafe when he was a 'little' drunk.
It was a sort of bet-for-money and even the cafe owner was involved.
Freaking detailed they told him there all about the consequences; hospital-info, creepy ways the parasite could leave your body, what it could do to your body and much more - he still knows (and is afraid for) everything they've said, he even keeps repeating it.

The first impression/reaction; you're being badgered!! *Can't you see that!!??*
He('s feeling): you talk like my psychiatrist (and everyone who's not taking me seriously)!
I could very well imagine me playing this 'funny game' with another. It's too weird for words, so ... do you expect anyone to believe it?
Well I wasn't there so I cannot really speak for this event but what I do notice (uncoupling the event) is that he's a very credulous nature (I will never say that ofcourse).

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What I would say to Mr Pisces - My Mercury is Pisces so maybe this can help -- is:
Even if he had 100 tests and eventually they FOUND what he thinks has.. they STILL wouldn't heal him imo

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Yea, I've also thought about this.
I wouldn't exactly say it's entirely pointless because IF they find something (or not) and its effect is more physical clearness it can help him to get further.
And yes.. then the real Self-healing is just at a starting point - imagine all the emotional tension of the previous 3 (likely more) years that must be processed.

Hm.. let's see, except for an applying sextile to Uranus, T Pluto is not making any aspect to his angles/planets.
After that one the first will be a square to natal Pluto (10'58 libra).
The most striking thing is T Neptune exactly (few minutes past) on his Mercury in the 8th.

posted September 19, 2010 11:30 PM         

racole, I understand your confusion. I can tell you that I have found out it is best to give him his alone time to figure out whatever he is dealing with in life (big, small, significant, not so important). He will come back. I offer mine that opportunity of personal space. He will sometimes take me up on it, otherwise he will say, "I am good. We do not need a break." It do have to admit the separations are tough. However, I know we will pick up right where we left off. The backing away only last a few days.