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amowls*
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posted September 14, 2010 01:01 PM
  
Ooo good idea DD on the SN persona chart.Unfortunately, I do not have the birth time of the person in question, does this hinder a persona chart? IP: Logged |
racole12
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posted September 14, 2010 01:07 PM
Lara~I have that connection too with someone... His Drac Venus/Valentine conj my Tropic NN/Valentine/Angel/Boda IP: Logged |
DD
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posted September 14, 2010 01:11 PM
Amowls,since the SN is moving very slowly it shouldn`t make THAT big of a difference, though the angles could be off.
Why don`t you make a chart using 00°01 a.m. and one 11.59 p.m. to see how much the difference is?
I forgot to mention that conjunctions to the ruler of 12th house may be relevant, too.
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posted September 14, 2010 01:19 PM
I tried it out with a chart with unknown birthtime:I am posting the degrees / minutes of difference between an early and late birth: Sun: 00°01
Moon: 00°08
Venus: 00°01
Mars: 00°01
ASCC: 02°31
I am actually surprised HOW little has changed, I think even the ASC-sign is in an okayish- practicable range, which means the persona charts give us an ASC for the person!
(of course if you make a Venus-Persona chart, the differences might be bigger example: Sun: 1°14
Venus: 1°34
Mars: 00°30
ASC:125°48 Well, I think except for Moon and the angles it is still applicable, though it would be better to have a birthtime. IP: Logged |
DD
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posted September 14, 2010 01:29 PM
BTW since Moon represents our past and memory, too, the Moon Persona could illuminate this further.Personally I still find the Draco chart, if applied reasonably, more accurate though. IP: Logged |
amowls*
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posted September 14, 2010 01:35 PM
Hmmm...well I tried it out with Vertex boy (which I have the exact time of birth for) and this is what I found: His SN Persona/My Tropical:
Karma opposite Sun (0)
Venus conjunct Moon (0)
MC conjunct Jupiter (1)
Moon conjunct Venus (3) My SN Persona/His Tropical:
ASC conjunct Vertex (0)
Moon conjunct ASC (0)
Sun conjunct Moon (2)
MC conjunct Sun (2) IP: Logged |
DD
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posted September 14, 2010 01:43 PM
I thought you wanted to check the natals first?Anyway, if you want to know about shared past lives, I would check SN to SN- chart, as it represents in both cases your past lives.
if you compare SN to tropical chart you get an idea about how the past life still influences the present (which is very interesting, too, jsut the emphasis is different) IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted September 14, 2010 02:16 PM
Cool idea!
SN persona is desc lunar node option on astro, right?  Thanks for this thread DD. I needed to get my research teeth into something... i get bored if i don't dissect something interesting on a regular basis lol IP: Logged |
DD
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posted September 14, 2010 02:27 PM
Yes,And yes, I am the same.
Just currently I am swamped in work. Tr Saturn conjunct MC and squaring Venus, ruler of 6th and 10th house, raising its head.
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raspberri
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posted September 14, 2010 02:53 PM
Hmm Im gonna try the SN persona synastry...IP: Logged |
DD
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posted September 14, 2010 04:14 PM
My SN persona chart  IP: Logged |
DD
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posted September 14, 2010 04:25 PM
Some possible past life connections:
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I had the strong feeling of past life interaction, spontaneious recalls in the form of sudden images and sceneries like "real" memories, but not through dreams or meditations.
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I`ve had ONE very strong recall, happened on the verge of falling asleep, complete with physical sensations and perceptions.
Very dramatic and shocking recall.
Vesta:01°52 Cap
Juno: 18°01 Libra
Ceres: 04°17 Libra
Vertex: 20°26 Leo
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posted September 14, 2010 04:34 PM
C:
Past life dreams (also with physical / emotional sensations and perceptions) from two different eras. SEveral dreams like a "continuation story"  D:
No past life recalls.
But dreamed of him days before meeting him.
Feels very familiar and gets under my skin. Vertex:14°02 Sag
Juno: 08°04 Sag
Vesta:25°56 Cancer
Ceres: 4°26 Sag 
Vertex:3°41 Taurus
Juno:16°09 Cancer
Ceres:23°28 Aries
Vesta:14°11 Taurus
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posted September 15, 2010 04:33 PM
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Lara
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posted September 15, 2010 05:37 PM
Interesting how you have venus/saturn/karma on your SN persona. Are you comparing your SN persona to their moon persona's? I'm a bit confused  EDIT: Ok i get it, my german is rubbish 
Your comparing SN/SN persona lol Here are mine: My SN persona moon cj his SN persona NN 2’
My SN persona moon opp his SN persona atlantis 3’
My SN persona venus cj his SN persona Neptune/spirit
My SN persona Pluto cj his SN persona mars 1’
My SN persona eros cj his SN persona eros 1’
My SN persona valentine cj his SN persona mars/vesta
My SN persona MC/vesta cj his SN persona DNA 1’
My SN persona vertex cj his SN persona sun 3’
My SN persona juno cj his SN persona Neptune 1’
My SN persona Neptune/karma/ceres/juno cj his SN persona AC
my SN persona atlantis cj his SN persona ceres 2’ They don't seem to indicate any past life! IP: Logged |
DD
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posted September 16, 2010 01:11 AM
I think my SN persona implies that I have been a pretty naughty girl, or in that case priestess (Atlantis exact conjunct Vesta on MC in Pisces, trine Karma and ASC AND Siva).Venus on 24 Cancer conjunct Kaali on 23 Cancer, trine Siva on 22 Scorpio.
T-square of
Pluto/aphrodite/Adonis in Libra (6-8 Libra) opposing Mars on 8 Aries squaring lust in 8 Capricorn.
VERY naughty. 
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raspberri
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posted September 16, 2010 01:18 AM
DD, those points are aspecting my Sun 8 Cancer, Moon 8 Capricorn, Neptune 8 Capricorn.... Sun/Moon Mp 8 Aries... IP: Logged |
DD
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posted September 16, 2010 01:35 AM
Rasperri,I am sorry. this wasn`t my intention. But interesting it is.
BTW I think conjunctions to tropical planets DO have relevance. I see it as Sam Neill explained the working of a wormhole in "Event Horizon" (I think it was a wormhole, not entirely sure).
It`s like you are folding two charts, putting them over each other (in this case tropical and Persona chart), and the conjunctions are the meeting points.
Usually you cannot "live" on the level of the SN persona chart, as you are living on the side of your tropical (present), but the conjunctions are hwere both charts merge and opening up a channel, through this channel you can access your SN Persona. Of course this is a two way street. Example: my SN Juno on 15 Gemini conjuncts my tropical Karma on 16 Gemini (in 7th house, too!). I take it that it means, that I still have karmic business, mostly in relationship context (tropical Karma in 7th house) with a past life spouse (SN Juno).
Or at least that people I committed to in the past are popping up in my life now, too. IP: Logged |
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posted September 16, 2010 01:42 AM
lara,"They don't seem to indicate any past life!"
You`re kidding me, right? IP: Logged |
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posted September 16, 2010 01:43 AM
SN to SN synastry can be interpretet like normal tropical synastry, only under the consideration that it is a past life synastry.So if these aspects appeared in normal synastry, would you think these people stayed unaffected by each other? IP: Logged |
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posted September 16, 2010 01:45 AM
Lara,I find it interesting that both of us have MC conjunct Vesta in the SN chart.
We both must have been very much in the public eye, probably as priestesses (Vesta). Mine is also conjunct Atlantis and Amor, do you have other asteroids or planets conjunct it?
And where is yours? (mine is at 20 Pisces) IP: Logged |
raspberri
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posted September 16, 2010 01:54 AM
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teasel
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posted September 16, 2010 01:55 AM
I had SN/SN with someone, who was born on the same day as me (obviously ). We were teenagers, and weren't unaffected by each other... I was thinking about him earlier, and was thinking of going into more detail in Jane's thread, but I'm too tired. Although his Moon was in Taurus, we had a mutual Moon, Venus, South Node conjunction, square Mars. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted September 16, 2010 01:56 AM
What's up, raspberri? (I haven't read the whole thread.)IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted September 16, 2010 05:28 AM
Morning DD Yes i was being serious... i just can't see it. Not sure i'm really understanding the aspects in truth. I'll look at them again. V interesting that our vesta and MC's are both cj.
SN vesta 29'37 aries
SN MC 0'07 taurus
BOTH conjunct my present life sun/moon MP at 0' taurus! Nothing else in SN persona cj's it but i found these from other charts of mine n briede/groom MP 1' taurus
dr n persephone 28' aries
dr n mars 2' taurus
n antiscon AC 28' aries
n sidereal MC 29' aries (hmmm) Interesting how the angles link up!
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