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Topic: Master Number Harmonic Astrology
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evanski Knowflake Posts: 213 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 05:40 AM
Hi Raymond 11th Harmonic ... Sun conjunct MC 0 Mars conjunct Ixion 2 True Node conjunct Varuna 0 Moon conjunct Anti-Vertex 2 Uranus conjunct IC 2 (True Node conj my natal POF exact). --- 22nd Harmonic ... Sun conj MC 0 Mars conjunct MakeMake 1 True Node conjunct Varuna 1 Haumea conjunct Orcus 0 --- 33rd Harmonic ... Sun conjunct MC 1 Saturn conjunct AC 0 True Node conjunct Varuna 2 IC conjunct Neptune 2 --- 44th Harmonic ... Sun conjunct MC 1 Mars conjunct MakeMake 2 True Node conjunct Varuna 2 Haumea conjunct Orcus 1 Anti-Vertex conjunct Quaoar 2 Haumea conj West Point 1 Orcus conj West Point 2 --- 55th Harmonic ... Venus conjunct DC 0 Sun conjunct Varuna 1 Sun conjunct MC 2 Mercury conjunct Neptune 0 Jupiter conjunct Saturn 1 Jupiter conjunct Haumea 1 Moon conjunct West Point 2 --- 66th Harmonic ... Sun conjunct MC 2 Saturn conjunct AC 0 Haumea conjunct Orcus 1 Venus conjunct Anti-Vertex 0 Pluto conjunct West Point 1 --- 77th Harmonic ... Saturn conjunct MakeMake 1 Orcus conjunct Sedna 2 Sun conjunct West Point 1 --- 88th Harmonic ... Sedna conjunct DC 1 Mercury conjunct Jupiter 1 Saturn conjunct Neptune 0 Uranus conjunct Ixion 1 Haumea conjunct Orcus 2 Haumea conjunct East Point 1 --- 99th Harmonic ... DC conjunct Moon 2 IC conjunct MakeMake 2 Sun conjunct Mars 0 Mercury conjunct Orcus 2 Saturn conjunct AC 1 Vertex conjunct Eris 1 Ixion conjunct Orcus 1 (Edited, adding East and West Points) IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6060 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 05:48 AM
Lara,harmonic to harmonic. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6060 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 07:18 AM
I checked the synastry (only 33th, 66th and 99th harmonic) with a soulmate of mine. We`ve never been in a relationship with each other, but he facilitated an INCREDIBLE emotional and spiritual growth inside of me. I used the same orbs as in natals; only for Sedna I only used 30 minutes, and probably even that is still too far.
33th harmonic --------------
(my Moon conjunct his Chiron 1-47) my MC conjunct his Ceres -19 my Mars conjunct his NN 1-46 (my Mars conjunct his Pluto 1-34) (my Ixion conjunct his Mars 1-13) my Haumea conjunct his Orcus -45 my Varuna conjunct his Chiron -03 my Varuna conjunct his Orcus - 51 66th harmonic -------------- my MC conjunct his Ceres - 39 my Varuna conjunct his Chiron -02 my Orcus conjunct his Sedna -30 my NN conjunct his Eris -58 99th harmonic ------------- my Sun conjunct his Juno -06 my Moon conjunct his Saturn 1-21 (my DESC conjunct his Pluto 1-56) my MC conjunct his Ceres -58 my Varuna conjunct his Chiron (-03) my Sedna conjunct his Mercury (-10) my Ixion conjunct his Varuna -01
reiterated aspects ------------------- my MC conjunct his Ceres (33th, 66th, 99th) my Varuna conjunct his Chiron (33th, 66th, 9tth)
aspects with Sun, Moon, ASC, MC, Vertex (unfortunately his ASC is not known to the minute, though his Moondegree is known) --------------------------------------- my Moon conjunct his Chiron (33th) my Moon conjunct his Saturn (99th) my Sun conjunct his Juno (99th) my MC conjunct his Ceres (33th, 66th, 99th) IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6060 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 09:37 AM
BTW in aspects like Mars-Ixion, we are using 1 degree orb, because Ixion is present, too? Or are we using 2 degrees because of Mars? Anyway, since I seem to be always doing the synastry with Jude Law, I checked it here, too. It`s become a bit of a habit.
33th harmonic --------------- my IC conjunct his Sun 2-01 my IC conjunct his Vertex 1-56 my Mercury conjunct his NN -35 my Venus conjunct his Ceres -50 my Jupiter conjunct his MC -52 my Neptune conjunct his Mars -15 my Haumea conjunct his Moon -06
66th harmonic --------------- my Mercury conjunct his NN 1-09 my Venus conjunct his Ceres 1-40 my Jupiter conjunct his MC 1-44 my Neptune conjunct his Mars -30 my Varuna conjunct his Neptune -29 my SN conjunct his Chiron 1-35 my Haumea conjunct his Moon -12
99th harmonic ------------- my ASC conjunct his Ceres -52 my BML conjunct his Varuna 1-03 my Mercury conjunct his NN 1-44 my Jupiter conjunct his Ixion -04 my Neptune conjunct his Uranus -19 my Neptune conjunct his Psyche -37 my Neptune conjunct his Mars -45 my Haumea conjunct his Moon -19
the most "persistent" aspects seem to be between:
my Mercury / his NN my Neptune / his Mars my Haumea / his Moon and to a certain part my Venus / his Ceres What is it about Ceres?
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Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 4645 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 10:11 AM
East Point/West Point is the 1st/7th house cusp of the Meridian house system chart. Change the house system to Meridian House. Then check the 1st and 7th house cusps, then you will known your East and West Point. In synastry, I would use much smaller orbs for the transneptunian objects including especially Sedna. I'd use much smaller than half a degree.....something within just a few minutes of arc for Sedna with its over 11,000 year orbital period.
Raymond ------------------ No..I am not a Virgo. Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 4645 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 11:15 AM
Here is the Master Harmonic synastry between Julie and MeHer Stuff to my Stuff MASTER NUMBER HARMONIC SYNASTRY 11th harmonic Messenger, Inspired, Intuitive, Channeling, Inventive, Mystic, Spiritual, Teacher, Idealistic, Romantic, Artistic, Energetic, Enthusiasm, Angels of creative communication, Christ-like Love, Visionary, Joy-bringer Neptune conjunct Ceres - '10 Saturn conjunct IC - 1'58
22nd harmonic Idealist, Expansive, Visionary, Master Builder, Material Master, Government, Bridge Builder, Alchemy, Universal Transformation, Philanthropic, Angels of Inspired Creativity, Genius, Inspired, Trouble-Shooter, Champion for a Cause, Tycoon Saturn conjunct Moon - 1'05 Neptune conjunct Ceres - '20 33rd harmonic Christ-like, healer, compassionate, protected, blessing, teacher of teachers, martyr, inspiration, honest, monk, Angels of healing and guidance Moon conjunct Saturn - 1'34 Venus conjunct IC - 1'15 44th Harmonic Impeccability, desire with insight, wisdom with reason, intensity, conviction, adeptship, heroism, self-control, discipline, controlled energy focussed. MC conjunct IC - '13 IC conjunct MC - '13 55th harmonic Number 55: Way shower, leader to the light, whole-brain thinking, quantum spirituality, universal mediator, mental telepathy, clairvoyance, ultimate freedom, ultimate oneness, integral consciousness. Sun conjunct Moon - 1'54 Saturn conjunct Venus - '44 Asc conjunct Vertex - '17 Desc conjunct Antivertex - '17 88th harmonic Spiritual atomic energy in balance, thought power with discrimination and responsibility, truth with honest simplicity, initiation, Master Disciple, impeccable discipline, mastery of self control, transmutation of emotional and physical temptation. MC conjunct MC - '26 IC conjunct IC - '26 Venus conjunct Uranus - '47 Saturn conjunct Desc - '49 Desc conjunct Jupiter - 1'16 Antivertex conjunct Asc - 1'04 Vertex conjunct Desc - 1'04 99th harmonic Holistic healing, wholeness, body as temple of Spirit, ultimate regeneration, resurrection, immortality, illumination, Divine communion, cosmic love, pure awareness, ego annihilation, Agape Love, Enlightenment. Asc conjunct Sun - '19 I think that's because her Asc is binovile (9th harmonic) my Sun exact Mars conjunct Desc - '38 The only minor planets that I looked at were Pluto,Ceres,Eris,and Sedna.
I checked mine with Solar Fire, and Solar Fire has glyphs for those objects. Raymond
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DD Knowflake Posts: 6060 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 11:47 AM
Cool synastry, Glaucus. I actually don`t agree with using different orbs for synastry than to natal anymore. The only reason I have ever heard for this difference is that we are dealing with two charts, and thus we have to keep the total amount of aspects narrow. That imo is a practical reason, but not a logical one. I also think that the reasons you are using (1-2 degrees) are very reasonable. Anyway I still think that the major aspects are, well, major. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 4645 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 11:58 AM
I just think the orbs should be smaller when using long orbital period objects like the outer planets,transneptunians, and the centaurs. Raymond
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DD Knowflake Posts: 6060 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 12:17 PM
Smaller in synastry than in natal? Or smaller than the major objects?What is the reason for using smaller orbs in synastry? BTW thanks for explaining how to find the East point easily. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 4645 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 12:20 PM
I always believed that the orbs should be much smaller for slow moving,long orbiting objects in synastry than in natal because of their generational influences.Raymond ------------------ No..I am not a Virgo. Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6060 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 12:29 PM
But they are just as generational in a natal. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 4645 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 12:39 PM
It's different in natal thoughif a person has strong personal aspects to a generational object ,he/she is strongly connected to generational matters if a person has strong personal aspects to heliocentric node,then he/she is strongly connected to collective matters it wouldn't make sense to use the same orbs for those things in synastry
it wouldn't make sense to use heliocentric nodes in synastry either the orbital periods have to be taken into account in synastry........because so many people born during a certain time in that period
common sense,logic Raymond ------------------ No..I am not a Virgo.
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 4459 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 02:06 PM
wow Raymond and DD, impressive synastry charts I wanted to share my 99th harmonic chart because i think it looks rather beautiful. 2 grand trines, a triangle and a few other groovy configurations.
What do you guys think it says please? IP: Logged |
jane Knowflake Posts: 1067 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 04:21 PM
On a whim, I looked at the 66th & 99th harmonics for my Davison Chart with my SO.In both we have: Venus cnj Chiron (0*) Sun cnj Karma (0*) I was inspired to look bc the synastry for those two harmonics was astounding! My Natal Harmonics Conjunctions: 11th Venus cnj NN in Sco. (1*) Merc cnj Chiron in Gem. (1*) 22nd No conjunctions under 2*. Tightest ones... [Venus cnj NN in Cancer. (2*)] [Mercury cnj Chiron in Virgo. (2*)] 33rd Merc cnj Jupiter in Sco. (0*) Neptune cnj Vertex in Aqua. (0*) [Venus cnj NN in Pisces. (3*)] 44th Mars cnj ASC in Cancer. (1*) 55th Neptune cnj Pluto in Sag. (1*) [Jupiter cnj Vertex in Leo. (just under 3*)] 66th Saturn cnj Chiron in Cancer. (0*) Uranus cnj Neptune in Sag. (1*) [Venus cnj Mars in Pisces. (3*)] 77th Moon cnj Mercury in Libra. (1*) 88th NN cnj Vertex in Gemini. (0*) Pluto cnj Karma in Gemini. (0*) [Neptune cnj Asc in Libra. (3*)] [Venus cnj MC in Cancer. (3*)] 99th Pluto cnj MC in Cancer. (0*) Neptune cnj Vertex in Libra. (0*) [Venus cnj Jupiter in Pisces. (2*)] In all harmonics except the last two, Venus and the NN are in the same sign and cnj (orb varies). In the final two they're in different signs, but still widely cnj. Natally I have Amor exactly cnj my NN (to the minute), so maybe this is a repeat of that energy. IP: Logged |
jane Knowflake Posts: 1067 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 04:23 PM
Lara, that is beautiful. I especially like the Venus-Saturn cnj in Pisces that forms a grand trine with Uranus-Vertex in Cancer and Eros in Sco. The NN-MC action in Taurus (including Ceres & Mars) looks loving and strong.IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 4459 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 05:02 PM
Thanks Jane Yes, its a lot better than my tropical natal chart and i agree, the grand water trine looks magical.These are my synastric aspects: His 11th karma cj my 11th AC His 11th AC cj my 11th mars/NN
His 22nd Pluto cj my 22nd DNA His 22nd NN cj my 22nd sun His 22nd karma cj my 22nd NN/AC His 22nd AC cj my 22nd NN/mars His 22nd AC sq my 22nd DNA His 33rd moon/NN cj my 33rd NN/mars His 33rd venus cj my 33rd venus His 33rd Pluto opp my 33rd sun His 33rd karma opp my 33rd NN/mars His 77th sun cj my 77th valentine His 77th moon cj my 77th karma His 77th venus opp my 77th valentine His 77th NN cj my 77th valentine His 77th AC cj my 77th valentine His 88th sun opp my 77th karma His 88th venus opp my 77th DNA His 88th DNA cj my 88th AC
His 99th sun cj my 99th DNA His 99th moon cj my 99th NN His 99th moon cj my 99th MC His 99th moon opp my 99th moon His 99th venus opp my 99th venus His 99th mars cj my 99th mars/ceres his 99th AC cj my 99th Jupiter his 99th IC cj my 99th sun 77th and 99th really stand out to me as major soul mate aspects. Notice how his emotional core (moon/venus) opposes mine. Yin and Yang? IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 6060 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 05:10 PM
Glaucus,I `think I don`t agree on this one. I don`t see the difference to synastry. In the natals it is the person themselves who are connected to a generational energy, in synastry another person becomes the "carrier" of that energy, and in a way becomes a condensed form of that energy (for the person, whose personal planets they aspect). But anyway, we donīt have to agree on everything. And in practice I think the whole difference consists in a degree or so. Lara,
I don`t think other aspects than conjunctions are used with the harmonics, as they are just highlighting the aspects of a certain series. Take the 9th harmonic for example. All aspects of the 9th harmonic like novile or binovile or trine will appear as conjunction in the 9th harmonic. Anyway I agree, beautiful synastry, as it was to expected. In my personal chart it seems that the 55th and 77th are pretty prominent, if I recall that right.
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DD Knowflake Posts: 6060 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 05:23 PM
I did a complete check of all harmonics for synastry with my "transformational soulmate".I used 2 degrees max. most of the time; and checked Sun, Moon, ASC/DESC, MC/IC, VX/AVX, Eastpoint/Westpoint, nodal axis, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Ceres and Juno. Only conjunctions of course. 11th harmonic ------------- my IC conjunct his NN 1-37 my Ceres conjunct his ASC -38 22th harmonic -------------- my Antivertex conjunct his NN -03 my Sun conjunct his DESC -04 my Ceres conjunct his ASC 1-16 33th harmonic ------------- my Moon conjunct his Chiron 1-59 my Mars conjunct his Pluto 1-33 my Mars conjunct his NN 1-47 my Ceres conjunct his ASC 1-54 my Eastpoint conjunct his ASC 2-22 my MC conjunct his Ceres -10 my DESC conjunct his East Point -50
44th harmonic --------------- my Sun conjunct his ASC -07 my Vertex conjunct his NN -07 my Ceres conjunct his ASC 2-32
55th harmonic --------------- my Venus conjunct his Venus 1-00 my Neptune conjunct his Venus -48 my Jupiter conjunct his Pluto -14
66th harmonic -------------- my Sun conjunct his DESC -10 my Jupiter conjunct his MC -52 my Uranus conjunct his DESC 1-47 my Antivertex conjunct his NN -11 my IC conjunct his Ceres -21 my ASC conjunct his ASC 1-51
77th harmonic ------------- my NN conjunct his Antivertex 1-23 my NN conjunct his Westpoint 0-00 my MC conjunct his Moon -58 my IC conjunct his Mars 1-54
88th harmonic -------------- my Sun conjunct his ASC -14 my Pluto conjunct his WEstpoint -56 my Vertex conjunct his NN -14 my DESC conjunct his Ceres - 02
99th harmonic -------------- my Sun conjunct his Juno -09 my Moon conjunct his Saturn 1-58 my Venus conjunct his Westpoint 1-09 my MC conjunct his Ceres -32 my DESC conjunct his Pluto 1-37
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 4459 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 05:26 PM
oops! Sorry DD, i just thought they looked significant I forgot to check east point and vertex too. My heart number in numerology is 7 and so is his so i thought the 77th would be important. My life path is a 9 and his is 11 so too spiritual numbers which would add to the 99th harmonics. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 4459 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 05:27 PM
How do you find the harmonic EAST point? In meridian its the same as the harmonic sun!IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 4645 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 06:37 PM
DD,We can agree to disagree. I just never felt comfortable using the same orb for outerplanets in synastry as in natal and then considering the transneptunians objects including over 10,000 year orbit Sedna, it's even harder for me to use the same orbs for synastry as in natal Raymond ------------------ No..I am not a Virgo. Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
evanski Knowflake Posts: 213 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted September 20, 2010 10:07 PM
Thanks for that Raymond, will look at East and West Points and get back to you.Like Lara, I have a 9 name and a master number middle name My middle name = 33 My first name and my date of birth = 32. My surname and my birthday = 16.
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evanski Knowflake Posts: 213 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted September 21, 2010 01:54 AM
Okay, I've looked at the Meridian Harmonic chart to get the house cusps. Is the 1st or 7th house cusp the East Point? IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 4645 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 21, 2010 02:00 AM
1st house cusp is East Point 7th house cusp is West PointRaymond ------------------ No..I am not a Virgo. Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
evanski Knowflake Posts: 213 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted September 21, 2010 02:41 AM
Here are my East and West Point conjunctions.44th ... Haumea conj West Point 1 Orcus conj West Point 2 55th ... Moon conjunct West Point 2 66th ... Pluto conjunct West Point 1 77th ... Sun conjunct West Point 1 88th ... Haumea conjunct East Point 1 East Point in my 77th Harmonic is my natal Sun/Moon midpoint.
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