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Topic: Chariklo 10199
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Peri Knowflake Posts: 1848 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 30, 2010 04:54 PM
Chariklo was the wife of Chiron. She was discovered in 1997, and is about compassion and emotional connection, among other themes. She is about the "Need for definition between intimacy and personal space. Seeking definition of human interaction and boundaries. Desire to help without co-dependent interference. Negative: invasive, manipulative, solicitous without intent to respond, aloof. Positive: an shoulder to cry upon, well defined relating agenda, counselor of independence vs. intimacy.Key words for Chariklo: intimacy and personal space, compassion and emotional connection planetwiki.planetwaves.net/index.php Chariklo: In Greek myth, Chariklo was the wife of Chiron. She offers relief from the dictates of patriarchy, through the safeguarding of sacred sexuality. Chariklo can represent balanced, active feminine expression, however she also serves in protection of social boundaries including those that are transgender or sexual in nature. The polarization of woman into virgin or ***** that characterizes many cultures, can be left behind for mature, self-fulfilled, maternal yet sexually active womanhood. As expressed by astrologer Philip Sedgwick, Chariklo is all about learning to maintain two important personal boundaries; one that would promote quality relations with other people and another that protects personal, sacred space, namely the enclosure of your own spirituality and individuality. http://www.mysticmarguerite.com/WebDocs/Texts/Asteroids.html so where is Chariklo # 10199 in your natal chart? can you relate to the description above? how about synastry? any chariklo/chiron aspects with your loved ones? IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 30, 2010 05:11 PM
Interestingly I mentioned her just today.anyway so I have: AURA on 4.4 Aries: Isolda on 3.1 Aries IC on 4.5 Aries Centaur Chariklo (chiron´s wife) on 6.3 Aries Magion on 6.5 Aries sirene on 8.1 Aries Actually it is making a Grand trine with Hypnos on 6.0 Leo and Mars on 5.1 Sag Polyhymnia on 6.1 Sag Beatles on 6.3 Sag ASC on 7.0 Sag Angel on 7.3 Sag Lust on 7.4 Sag Wisdom on 7.5 Sag I think I remember that my Chariklo is exactly conjunct PA`s Chiron. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 6274 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 30, 2010 05:24 PM
From what I remember, mine is in early Cancer, conjunct Saturn, square Jupiter and Pluto, trine Mars, Uranus and ascendant (depending on orbs used). IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted September 30, 2010 05:37 PM
Chariklo on 13' pisces cj chaldea trine adonis 15' scorpio trine cupid 12' cancer opp wisdom 13' virgo pallas 14' virgoIt conjuncts my mans chiron and opp his pluto lol His chariklo opp my AC/Kaali and semi sextiles my chiron I didn't bother looking at other aspects. IP: Logged |
Peri Knowflake Posts: 1848 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 30, 2010 08:38 PM
I checked 5 married couples, only 2 of them have Chiron /Chariklo aspects, the rest have Chiron or Chariklo in aspect to the synastry luminaries, angles or angle rulers.my brother - his wife Chariklo 1'47 aries - 12'09 aries Chiron 15'38 aries - 24'04 aries his Chiron conj her Chariklo (3) and Moon (3) my dad - my mum Chariklo 25'45 scor - 0'52 cap Chiron 18'25 scor - 17'16 cap his Chiron sextile her Chiron (1) his Chiron sextile her Moon (1) couple 1 him - her Chariklo 23'37 tau - 20'28 tau Chiron 2'16 gem - 28'05 tau his Chariklo is widely conj her Chiron (5) and Sun (1) couple 2 him - her Chariklo 19'05 aqua - 28'04 aries Chiron 10'35 pisc - 8'29 tau her Chiron sextile his Chiron (2) conj his ASC (0) his Chiron sextile her Saturn (1) her Chariklo opp his Sun (2) his Chariklo conj ner MC (1) square Venus (2) trine ASCR Merc (1) sextile Moon (3) couple 3 him - her Chariklo 16'43vir - 8'21 lib Chiron 19'26 can - 10'28 leo his Chariklo widely conj her NN (5) trine Mars (1) her Chariklo conj his Sun (0) her Chiron conj his ASC (0) sextile his Sun (1) my most serious relationship him - me Chariklo 11'35 ari - 21'58 ari Chiron 24'30 ari - 2'18 tau his Chiron conj my Chariklo (2) and SN (0) his Chariklo conj my Venus IC R (2) trine my ASC R Saturn (1), opp my MC R Pluto (0) my Chiron trine his MC (2) IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 30, 2010 10:35 PM
Chariklo is actually a larger,brighter centaur than Chiron too. I have a grand trine of
Venus in 21'47 Scorpio in 3rd Centaur Chariklo in 23'53 Pisces in 7th Transneptunian Dwarf Planet Candidate Orcus in 22'28 Cancer R in 11th Raymond
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 01, 2010 04:31 AM
Lara,your Chariklo is conjunct my Jupiter on 11 Pisces. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 01, 2010 04:35 AM
Peri,I am going to check on this later. IP: Logged |
Peri Knowflake Posts: 1848 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 01, 2010 07:57 PM
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Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9536 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 02, 2010 12:27 AM
^ that's the cutest lil smiley picIP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9536 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 02, 2010 12:48 AM
quote: intimacy and personal space, compassion and emotional connection
She sounds like my kind of gal!Awhl rite, Chariklo is @ 10¯¯°13" Taurus in the 10th So she shows where you're an independent, yet connected woman..the inner you that acts in that manner... Mine's in Taurus so when secure and balanced I act in an earth mother manner, striving to achieve in the outer world (10th) but also seeking spiritual fulfillment through staying grounded and seeking pleasure (Taurus). Or I may act in these ways and divide my energies in this manner to achieve mature feminine balance. Does that sound right, Peri? Well I guess it's true, altho I *do* have Venus and Moon in Earth, and in an Earth house..so I can't comment too much as it's v.similiar... In synastry, I never attract early or mid Taurus placements. It's square my Mercury in the 7th, and Mercury there rules a lot of what I'm attracted to/attract. I will have to say that those men do not really allow me to be nurturing in relationship. But then again, my Moon and Venus hardly ever receive positive aspect in synastry. With my most serious relationship: -his Chariklo conj my Chiron, 2° (don't ask me what that means) IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 02, 2010 11:34 AM
orbs would need to be tight, as the centaurs (including Chiron and Chariklo) move pretty slowly - they are the bridge between Saturn and the transpersonals after all.IP: Logged |
popcorn Knowflake Posts: 3297 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted October 02, 2010 11:42 AM
Interesting. Totally unexpected meeting. I just meet someone I thought I never will meet again. This man have his chariklo 19,01 in pisces conj my chiron 18,01 in pisces(0-1) . My chariklo 26,22 in aqua conj His N.N 26,27 in aqua Transit chiron in retro conj my Chariklo conj his N.N. Talk about surprise!!!!. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 6274 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 02, 2010 11:46 AM
I don't know what asteroid I was thinking of before, but I've just keyed in Chariklo, and found it at 11*Aries, in my 5th, square my Saturn (almost exactly), trine my Midheaven and Neptune. Widely conjunct Jupiter and opposed Pluto. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 02, 2010 12:38 PM
Just a quick rundown through some synastries:my parents: His Chariklo square her Mars exact (but no angle ruler) her Chariklo square his ASC (1) her Chariklo conjunct his Chiron exact! Paul Newman - Joanne Woodward ------------------------------ his Chariklo square her Sun exact his Chariklo conjunct her Jupiter exact her Chariklo no aspects Paul Mc Cartney - Linda Eastman ---------------------------------- his Chariklo conjunct her Sun-Chariklo-conjunction Johnny Cash - June Carter -------------------------- his Chariklo conjunct her Pluto her Chariklo trine his Sun
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popcorn Knowflake Posts: 3297 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted October 02, 2010 01:12 PM
My mothers chiron 8,34 in cancer My fathers chariklo 10,58 in cancer they met each other when my mother was 16. My father is 80 today. They was separete in 10 year. Today it looks like both of them find one's way home again. IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 1995 From: Firey Jupiter Registered: May 2009
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posted October 02, 2010 01:35 PM
I ordered Sedwick's galactic report a while back and luckily Chariklo doesn't form any aspects in my chart. Which according to Sedgwick's means: "Automatically you know where you need to stand next to another person for perfect impact. Perfact impact suggests having the full attention of the other person without overwhelming your sensors."I guess those who have a unaspected Chariklo are prone to give others more personal space. Yet this asteroid is widely conjunct the Desc. Just adding further detachment to my already detached Gemini Desc. IP: Logged |
popcorn Knowflake Posts: 3297 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted October 02, 2010 02:21 PM
My friend of my childhood and his whife who been married since she was 17. She is 50 today and he 53.His chiron 12,15 in aqua Hers chariklo 7,15 in aqua IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9536 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 02, 2010 08:07 PM
Well DD this asteroid is square to my Mercury, but the orb is 5 degrees so I guess it's too wide. Wait......... It's opposed my Jupiter by less than 1 degree. Darn it, Vertiver I wanted to be part of your club, lol.IP: Logged |
amelia28 Moderator Posts: 3643 From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 23, 2014 09:06 PM
My venus/mars conjunction oppose Lilith and all square Chariklo making Chariklo the focul point of a tsquare.Beatiful huh. Chariklo would be the key of my opposition between venus/mars and lilith. Very neat. I also have chariklo trine my sun. ADD: My chariklo conjuncts exact the apex of a composite YOD in chiron. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 42935 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 25, 2014 08:44 PM
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ilunatique Knowflake Posts: 106 From: uranus Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 26, 2014 07:53 AM
The following is from Philip Sedgwick's site: Centaurs: Cosmic High Horses Centaurs are a unique group of bodies more or less part of the Kuiper Belt, a region of icy dust and asteroid-like bodies near the edge of our solar system. There may be hundreds of thousands of Kuiper Belt Objects. A smaller subset of this collection, Centaurs, by definition, must possess a perihelion distance greater than that of Jupiter and a semi-major axis that does not exceed Pluto's aphelion distance from the Sun (originally defined as a semi-major axis less than that of Neptune, but ignored as definition of the bodies continued). Chiron: The wounded healer who possesses insight, wisdom and grace. Orbital Period: 50.27 yr. Positive - healing, just, wise, fair, insightful, knowledgeable, skilled in arts, medicine, healing, philosophy, focused, positively full of one’s self, sense of soul’s purpose Negative - opinionated, teaching others the lessons needed by oneself, wounding, corrupt, illicit, irritating demeanor, clinging, feeling homely or unwanted, estranged from parents Mundane - healing of all types from allopathic medicine and surgery to chiropractic and all forms of homeopathy and naturopathy, soul retrieval, justice, mentoring programs, cave exploration, illegitimate offspring, archery Ceremonial - soul retrieval, any natural healing modality, chiropractors, retreats - especially in caves, ceremonial chambers or kivas, making a talking stick or ceremonial arrowPholus: Keeper of the sacred wine and host to Hercules. Orbital Period: 91.95 yr. Positive - just, wise, nurturing, meeting the needs of others while keeping own needs in balance, conscious of choice, ceremonial, pacifism, self nurturing, attentive Negative - opinionated believing rules of cosmic forces do not apply to oneself, addicted to food or alcohol, careless regarding weaponry (or security tools), ignoring spiritual needs, indulgent, reclusive, meddling Mundane - food and drink - especially regarding celebrations, daily ceremony and ritual Ceremonial - toasting, blessings and grace, celebrations, creating a daily hour of power Nessus: Ferryman at the River Evenus. Orbital Period: 120.76 yr. Positive - generous, benevolent, compassionate, willing to lend a helping hand, cooperative, respectful of boundaries, aware of the power of life force energy, healthy use of sexual energy Negative - coveting, possessive, jealous, vengeful, manipulative, resorting to negative alchemy for personal gain, negative use of sexual energy Mundane - bad blood between parties, feuds over money especially regarding relationship dissolution, diseases transmitted by blood, transport ferries over water, potions, tonics and elixirs designed to cast spells, therapy specifically designed for healing sexual or monetary issues Ceremonial - prosperity ceremonies, sexual healing rituals, ceremonies involving Earth fertility Asbolus: An intuitive Auger. Orbital Period: 75.78 yr. Positive - intrepid, courageous, leading the charge, motivated to reach the top, intuitive, wise, common sense insightful, solid advice Negative - lack of sensibility, blind action, failing to follow instincts, intuitions, omens or sensors, easily intoxicated, unable to receive advice from self or others Mundane - common sense, intuitive forces, mountain climbing - specifically in the face of obvious danger, risk taking especially under the influence, abstract logic, extreme sense of smell Ceremonial - meditation, visualization of tasks before setting to action, climbing to reclaim a sense of nature Chariklo: (Female) Consort to Athena and healing assistant to Vesta in the temples. Orbital Period: 63.05 yr. Positive - boundary sensitive, wise, just, non-assumptive especially regarding personal relationship, interrogative about touchy or delicate issues Negative - judgmental, feeling of being victimized at a glance, assumptive, intolerant, biased by gender archetypes Mundane - swimming in the nude, eyesight, hearing, flirting, sexual harassment, motivation oriented Ceremonial - a see no evil, hear no evil scenario, energetic healing, work to clear intent and motive Hylonome: (Female) Grief stricken at the loss of her mate in battle. Orbital Period: 125.25 yr. Positive - relationship devotion, sense of self with or without relationship, accommodating Negative - grief stricken, co dependent, sacrificial, self esteem based upon relationship, self destructive in the face of relational difficulty Mundane - grief counseling, bereavement work, relationship healing Ceremonial - bonding ceremonies between couples, cathartic emotional relief regarding lost love, lost money or missed career opportunities Pelion: Self-confidence for effort and the climb to accomplishment in life. Sacred Space, professional status, gratitude and sense of destiny. Orbital Period: 89.05 yr. Positive - driven by dharma, balanced ego in professional status, giving, nurturing and sharing with co-workers with an extraordinary generosity Negative - Demanding, infantile in work relationships, flaunts social status as a result of accomplishments, showcases with past laurels Mundane - job recognition, awards and accolades, merits, medals and certificates Ceremonial - rites of passage, passing of baton, graduation ceremonies into higher spiritual orders Elatus: Expression of self and ego through word and writing. Orbital Period: 42.16 yr. Positive - Excellent communication, articulate, precise. Negative - Verbose, boastful, shallow in conversation. Mundane - creative writing, affirmations, self improvement courses, poetry Ceremonial - reciting affirmations, chanting, writing spiritual treatises, ceremonial magic Thereus: Relational and professional attitudes based upon others. I am what I am in this relationship because of my career status or the ornamentation of this relationship. Orbital Period: 34.63 yr. Positive - Balance between relationship and work, money and sexuality. Negative - Object oriented, status seeking, mercenary in work ethics, stunned by glamour and beauty of partner Mundane - resumes, bios, promotional photos that project an image, any status object whether relational or professional Ceremonial - tandem energy exercises, hiking for spiritual purpose with a partner, sitting in audience with an enlightened person Okyrhoe: Daughter of Chiron and Chariklo she promotes principles of discernment and conscious life skills. Orbital Period: 24.38 yr. Positive - affirming, supporting, common sense based, acute logic skills, organized, detailed Negative - critical, judgmental, whining or whingeing, prophecies of doom, using logic to find fault, works in perpetual worst case scenarios Mundane - mental attitude programs, tapes and other repetitive tools for reminding the psyche of a healthy state of mind, failure analysis in technology, spreadsheets and lists - especially those geared at mental health, affirmations, mantras, chants Ceremonial - chanting, affirming, drumming (establishes cadence), Om exercises, cleaning to promote godliness. Cyllarus: A handsome, devoted centaur, he represents positive sensual expression, willingness to fully embrace life in the physical plane. Orbital Period: 134.48 yr. Positive - artistic, soothing, tactile, healing, comforting Negative - shut down, defensive, protected, lack of creative outlet Mundane - any body healing including massage, rebirthing, Shiatsu and those involving physical contact, artistic work that comes from full expression, such as painting with the hands, musical skill, culinary ability Ceremonial - water rituals that include coming back on shore upon completion, rebirthing, creating ceremonies that involve contact with earth elements and water simultaneously Bienor - This centaur offers a sense of creative spirit, belief in urge of the soul, confidence. His name means literally, “strong man.” Orbital Period: 66.81 yr. Positive - creative, inspired, talented, motivated, burning with creative vigor Negative - repressed, sullen, withdrawn, resentful that life does not respond and bestow rewards Mundane - benefactors, creative sanctuaries, places of recognition (Halls of Fame, etc.), awards, grants and prizes for projects seeking funding support Ceremonial - mediation upon the heart, Hatha yoga, meditation in general, creating while listening to or dancing with music, dance ceremonies. Amycus - The longer period of this centaur seeks longevity and notoriety. Orbital Period: 126.38 yr. Positive - intuitive, questioning, insightful, progressive, determined, reliable Negative - doubtful, skeptical, withdrawn, often late, unreliable, lacking resolve, insecure Mundane - doctrines and policies designed to produce a result (policy manuals, creeds), any mechanical device that enables a shift in energy, for instance a clutch for shifting gears, monuments, commandments (as in carved in stone), pictographs and petroglyphs Ceremonial - stretching, yogas that shift fixed structures, chiropractic sessions, watching storms as a mediation, drumming, descent into the underworld (use of caves or kivas) Crantor - Emotional declaration stands out as the quest for Crantor, not actually a centaur, but killed by one. A bit of the "What did I every do to you?" syndrome applies. Orbital Period: 86.09 yr. Positive - sensitive, emotional expressive, strong sense of emotional boundaries, nurturing and passionate Negative - emotionally abuse, manipulative through feelings, projects guilt, shame and blame upon others, substance abuse Mundane - acute sense of emotional motivations, cathartic therapies and the ability to lead them, comprehension of emotionally based traumas and phobic responses, grief counseling Ceremonial - cathartic ceremony, Wailing Wall-like rituals, water cleansing rituals, baptisms, fervent declarations of faith, ceremonies of emotional renewal Echeclus - The mental balance between the abstract and linear logic. Swift decision making criteria resulting in polarized good idea/bad idea scenarios. Orbital Period 35.24 years. Positive - mentally integrating, solution oriented, non-judgmental, abstract, conceptual, will shift opinion when new information or consciousness prompts a new set of beliefs Negative - critical, opinionated, twisted logic, rationalizing, able to justify anything Mundane - abstract art, conceptual theories, spatial relations, forced decisions under time pressure, close calls, head injuries Ceremonial - celebration of the coyote or trickster, meditation on time/space warps http://www.philipsedgwick.com/ IP: Logged | |