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Topic: Venus-Mars or Venus-Pluto in Synastry
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raspberri
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From: venus
Registered: Jan 2010
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posted November 28, 2010 08:07 PM
  
Actually it wasn't just a Venus/Mars square..
My Venus 14 Gemini (my chart ruler)
My SN 16 Virgo
My Karma 12 Virgo
My Vertex 12 Taurus
His NN 9 Taurus
His Venus 13 Virgo (his chart ruler)
His Mars 14 Virgo
His Uranus 14 Sagittarius
His Chiron 14 Gemini
Also:
My ASC 12 Libra His Vertex 14 Libra
His Aphrodite 13 Libra My Jupiter 25 Taurus
My Aphrodite 24 Taurus His Moon 24 Taurus
His Eros 24 Virgo
His Sun is opposing my SUN/MOON MP and I think this is actually stronger than everything else when it comes to synastry.
Both our chart rulers are Venus and we have an abundance of Venus planets being aspected in each others charts. This is a very deep love for me.
OMG I just realized we have Venus trine Vertex DW!
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GrlyGirl20
Knowflake Posts: 410
From: USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 28, 2010 08:53 PM
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I feel the pluto from left and right.. I feel the obsession.... Thank god my cancer venus can hide it well, cuz he has no clue... The same I have no clue if he's obsessed with me.. but I do know he cant let go either, so I do suspect the obsession, lucky for us, we keep our cool about it
You are right. I have Pluto pretty prominent in my chart. I've had Pluto with a lot of guys...but I do admit that certain things trigger it. My Pluto aspects:
Trine my Asc/Sun
Square my Moon/Mer
Opp my Venus by Sign Inconjunct it by aspect Jupiter in the 8th, and Pluto in the 5th I've written A LOT about an Aqua ex that things ended badly. We had a LOT of Pluto both in the Synastry and Composite. Obsessiveness along with the intensity was something we didn't deal with, so much so that I think that's why he wouldn't deal with me. Even now I do the typical tracking thing Pluto people do haha (I also did that to a double Sag ex with Venus and Mer in Scorpio who we had some in the Synastry Venus Conjunct Pluto...it was intense needless to say). With the Aqua ex it's been VERY hard getting over him. And while I am a double Cancer...I am pretty good at not making a big deal about things after a breakup a la my 11th house Venus and Sun/Mars/Mer Uranus aspects. I have the ability to stay friends minus any emotional gunk or past romantic feelings coming up again (which is so very Aqua-ish). But with this ex I still miss him romantically, (and not only as a friend or person) and we broke up in JANUARY lol. And haven't actually spoken since June. It's just been some back and forth between us. And I'd done the typical Aqua reaction of claiming "friendship" but I still had deep feelings for him. And he couldn't be my friend. In the synastry we have:
A DW of Mars/Pluto
A DW of Sun/Pluto
a DW of Mercury/Pluto
Venus-Pluto aspect
My Pluto is Parallel his Moon. This is also on top of:
My Venus is Conjunct his Moon/Asc
His Venus is Trine my Moon
His Venus is opp my Mars
His Venus is Conjunct my Dsc
His Moon is Trine my Moon
His Moon is Conjunct my IC
My Sun/Mars/Asc is Conjunct his Dsc
His Jup is Conjunct my MC
His Juno is Conjunct my Moon
My Juno is Conjunct his Moon (loosely) And in the Composite:
Sun is Opp Pluto
Moon is in Scorpio in the 8th
Venus Square Pluto
Mars Inconjunct Pluto
Pluto in 7th house
Saturn in the 8th
Vertex is Parallel Venus
Juno/Eros is Parallel Moon
Juno is Conjunct Saturn
NN is both Conjunct and Parallel the Sun So things are still very icky between us. It just felt like I was destined to meet and be with him. As corny as that sounds. Plus he isn't your typical Aqua (he has a Cap Rising and Venus Conjunt Neptune, Mer is in Pisces, and his Venus/Mer/Moon touch Pluto as well). And as much as I hate him I do still adore him and wish I didn't feel the way I do. But yes obsessiveness is the worst part of Pluto stuff...plus its always done in private and secret. I will say though that Pluto doesn't hit all the time...but when it does its so hard to get untangled. IP: Logged |
easternbutterfly
Newflake Posts: 8
From: United States
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 28, 2010 11:20 PM
Lioness, I have pluto in the 7th house too.IP: Logged |
easternbutterfly
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From: United States
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 28, 2010 11:23 PM
raspberri, I never looked into all those aspects such as Aphrodite and Karma. How significant are they? I wonder what aspectss my fiance and I have with those. I'll have to look into it. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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Registered: Mar 2010
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posted November 28, 2010 11:33 PM
@girlygirl..
Yes we are in the same boat here.. I feel the pluto for the first time in my life... Never really felt obsessed with some one ever.. Not like this.. With me though we have alot of Pluto and even MORE neptune.. So It's just like he's super wonderful... lol.. Its hilarious.. I cant seem to get past it... I forgot about Scorpio also... In the composite Uranus,NN,psyche,Mars are in Scorpio... Which is opposite that Taurus Sun,and mercury....
We also have 12th house Synastry so it really cuts deep into my conciseness.. There has been a few times,where I was so freaked out about it.. I RAN and I ran and ran... Feeling I couldnt even be in his presence.. yet also feeling I had to.. When I went away... I felt worse.. really really bad... As if I lost something... Very explainable... @eastern
Do you feel pluto in your relationships? Or is is just something you are comfortable with??? For me I think it was comfort until this one...
I do have power struggles, only its not as bad as it seems...At least for me...  IP: Logged |
easternbutterfly
Newflake Posts: 8
From: United States
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 28, 2010 11:52 PM
Lioness, I think for me it comes up when I feel that I'm losing the person.I have moon opposite pluto natally and I do have power struggles, repressed emotions and sometimes I'm detached emotionally. But with this relationship I'm very involved emotionally. We also have a lot of 12th house stuff in synastry which I think has something to do with the spiritual and psychic connection that we have. I believe initially, it was very scary for him. With you, is it his planets in your 12th house or the other way around? IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted November 29, 2010 12:17 AM
For me the energy is a little different.. I do fear loosing people.. I have abandonment issues.. But now Im just use to it.. I go in thinking it will be over soon.. This person is going to leave anyways.. (I also have Uranus in the 7th, so everyone comes and goes quickly).. Only I dont express this fear... I have moon parallel pluto so maybe the energy is easier.. IDK... I kinda assume everyone will leave anyways.. Which is why this guy is torture for me because he wont LEAVE.. Its very hard for me to understand, why is he still around.. What does he want from me... It just doesnt make sense to me... When they go away.. it makes sense...
He activates my 12th.. His Sun,Mars and mercury are in my 12th..... I can honestly say because of him I've had to deal with emotions that I wasnt even aware I had...
Yes we do have a spiritual and psychic connection.... It confused the hell out of me.... At some times it was completely unbearable... I wanted to talk to him, but when I did it would send me into an emotional spiral... He would get mad bc I would not answer some of his questions... But he just didnt understand what he was asking.. I just couldnt... Then I had no choice but to "think" about things.. The why the hows....
OO and my dreams... O man.... I feel as if he comes and talks to me in my dreams.. Like if he tells me what he wants me to do, or say to him.. No I dont recall any dreams like this.. But when I wake up, thats how I feel... Like if I just had a conversation with him...
Your dreams are apart of your subconscious, so I guess it makes some sense of it playing out in my dreams.. Only I dont remember having these dreams.. Its just feelings I have when I first wake up.... I also feel like he "needs" me.. But I think I need him... But for some strange reason I feel I HAVE to stay around.. I feel its not my choice... I have had no say in the matter... Cuz if it were up to me.. I would have sooo been outta there.. IP: Logged |
easternbutterfly
Newflake Posts: 8
From: United States
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 29, 2010 01:14 AM
Lioness, I can totally relate to what your saying about the 12 house stuff. My guy's venus, mercury and sun is in my 12th house and I have all of the same planets so mines are there as well.Much of what you said happens to me too except I'm not really scared. When we weren't together, it's the only way I knew what was really going on beyond the surface and how he was feeling about me. I believe it's what kept us connected. Sometimes though, it gets overwhelming and I just want it to stop but it never does so I can understand how you feel. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted November 29, 2010 01:18 AM
Scared really isnt the correct word.. Its more like confusion... Trying to understand.. Yeah I could see how you would be more comfortable, since you have planets already in your 12th... My 12th is empty, so I never felt these before.. Its new to me... I guess you can say my 12th was just laying in wait dormant.. Then BAM!!!!! LOOK WHAT U FEEL!!! FEEL THIS... Smacked me in the face... Its definitely an eye opener.. IP: Logged |
easternbutterfly
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Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 29, 2010 01:23 AM
If what the two of you have is special, then just embrace it IP: Logged |
raspberri
Knowflake Posts: 2550
From: venus
Registered: Jan 2010
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posted November 29, 2010 01:29 PM
easternbutterfly, you should look and tell me what you find!IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 34204
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 29, 2010 01:32 PM
Are you talking about your Pisces, Lioness?
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It is either a lesson or a blessing ,Bruh. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted November 29, 2010 02:03 PM
@ Ami Yeah who else.... lol
@easter.. There's nothing goin on between us.. Well... IDK what u want to call it... just a friendship maybe... It drives me insane..
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Lioness
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posted November 29, 2010 08:56 PM
Ahh today he brought me lunch... IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 29, 2010 09:09 PM
When the bug bite, Girlfriend, it bites  ------------------
It is either a lesson or a blessing ,Bruh. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted November 29, 2010 09:16 PM
Believe it or not, but he's never done that... I didnt say anything to him but today I forgot my purse.. So I had no money.... No wallet no ATm... No ID.. He texted me Im at a Chinese restaurant. u want something... I said sure.. Thanks... He brought me lunch... He just knew I needed it... lol ahhhhhhhhhhhh So I got to eat lunch IP: Logged |
Cecile
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From: NY, NY, USA
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 29, 2010 09:17 PM
@Lioness: I am rooting for you girlfriend! I'm very interested to see how this plays out and I hope all of the best for you. The guy I'm interested in might have a similar synastry with me: my Mars squares his Venus and my Pluto opposes his Venus. The thing is, I don't know for sure since I don't have his time of birth. Anyways, I think we probably have Mars-Venus and Pluto-Venus synastry. I don't know if I'm wrong in that assumption. We haven't hooked up or anything, but it was attraction at first sight. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 29, 2010 09:19 PM
You know, if you love someone THAT much ,Lioness, try to make it work the best you can.
Love is so beautiful and so rare  ------------------
It is either a lesson or a blessing ,Bruh. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted November 29, 2010 09:20 PM
@ Cecile.. Have you been keeping up with my Pisces delima... This has been going on a year... I brought that up today... He says well cuz u dont trip.... lol shrug.... Dont worry even if the time is wrong those aspects wont change.. Unless dates are wrong.. What could be different w/o the correct time is the Moon, Asc and the houses... Everything else will be the same.. So you can at least get most of the aspects... IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted November 29, 2010 09:23 PM
Ami... I try but IDK.... Im just not sure how much more I can take or do.... I cant sit and wait for him to figure things out, yet I feel I am anyways... But if I meet someone else then I guess it wasnt meant to be... Im obsessed but Im not stupid... LMAO IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 29, 2010 09:26 PM
Yes
I was talking to my best friend(guy) today.
He said that to love is so beautiful that even if you lose, you have not.
I get that!!!
To feel that love for someone MAKES you a winner ,right there, even if the relationship doesn't work out.
I get that, Maybe, cuz of my life circumstances.
I don't know but I totally get it LOL------------------
It is either a lesson or a blessing ,Bruh. IP: Logged |
Cecile
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From: NY, NY, USA
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 29, 2010 09:33 PM
@Lioness: yeah I have actually, and I definitely feel for you because I'm going through a similar thing with my guy. To wait or not to wait for him to figure things out?And thank for the tip about birth times. I will definitely keep that in mind. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 29, 2010 09:42 PM
We all have such different life circumstances.
I am so different than I was 10 years ago or 20 years ago.
I looked for such different things in a person.
If I do not find the right person, I am happy to be alone, too.
I won't settle.
I have a clear definition of what I want and if I can't find it, I will be OK.If I love and lose, I would rather do that,also. I guess when you have a horrible circumstance like I did, you change in very deep ways. You become very different than before. ------------------
It is either a lesson or a blessing ,Bruh. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted November 29, 2010 09:46 PM
Yeah its weird.. We have this strange bond.. Yet we both assume each other are seeing other people (true, when it comes around) We just cant severe this tie... I wish I could so I could get rid of these feelings.... No matter what he is right there... As long as he's around I will always feel the Pluto and the pull to him....
OOO AMI! the Scorpio that I briefly dated during the summer (yikes) he's trying to come back... I havent seen or talked to him, but its just a matter of time.... He was at my friends house over the weekend (with her husband) and when she got home he was drunk and telling her to CALL LIONESS right NOW! Tell her to come here!!! She said No I will call her tomorrow, he said yeah call her tomorrow but call her tonight also.... LOL.... OMG!! He even tried to get her phone...... I have a feeling this is not going to be good.... I changed my number before so he couldnt contact me anymore...
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raspberri
Knowflake Posts: 2550
From: venus
Registered: Jan 2010
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posted November 30, 2010 05:17 PM
With the person with Venus conjunct my Pluto, he says things like:"Nobody deserves you more than me"
"Someone is always thinking about you"
"don't ever feel like you're alone"
"do you think im obsessed with you"
"you were made for great things" IP: Logged |
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