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Topic: Natal 5th house Neptune and the impossible romance
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mir Knowflake Posts: 411 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 09, 2010 11:25 AM
Wow.. Amphitrite, many of your words are soo extremely close to what I saw and experienced with my Pisces-ex, who has;Sun (= chartruler) square Neptune in 5th. (only aspect his Sun AND Neptune make within reasonable orb) The first few months deeply in love with me.. but.. not really with *ME* but with his own dreams of 'living together with someone'.... and as soon as he became aware that I could never share this dream, that he couldn't get me to that point.. his love was.. GONE.. (simply said)
HIS big dream was 'living together with someone'.. and why? Well, there's just one answer on that; he's convinced he needed someone to escape his addictions. I've thought a lot about it and asked myself the question; COULD this (living together) REALLY help him to overcome his addictions? IP: Logged |
BanxManx Knowflake Posts: 220 From: Venus Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 09, 2010 11:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by mochai: The energy you were describing earlier.. the cold.. is feminine energy banx. I seem to be having the opposite with masculine energy and understanding men. Sometimes my room is very hot for no reason when the entire house is freezing.About misrepresenting in relationships, I can kind of see that and I have it in the 5th also exact conjunct station merc (being a truth seeking type.. -hate- that aspect). Sometimes I feel like I'm so influenced by a belief or energy I channel that out there and say something along those lines because empathically it feels like me even though it isn't. I'm just caught up in some energy. I also go into relationships feeling like I need to morph myself into more of what they want and maintain that, however I get tired of doing that and that's when I leave. I don't do this liberally.. there's economy and conservation to it to. How much I can change in what ways vs what kind of return I get. I don't consciously play it out but it's instinctual. I tend to not be disappointed in relationships short of disbeliefing this soulmate I had problems with was bipolar and destroying me in the eyes of everyone I met. I never dated him. I didn't want to believe he was a soulmate either (pluto transit neptune ath the time) but I couldn't not obsess about him as scary as it was. I tend to believe everyone will abandon me and hurt me, and so far that hasn't happened except with one relationship.. and no abandonments  Almost forgot, my neptune is unafflicted and wide trine to my taurus moon in the 10th. I do also enjoy healing people in relationships when I can and enjoy dating the hurt type.
I get that too Mochai. The entire house will be freezing and then when you walk into the room that I was in it is extremely warm and there are no electrical appliances or anything that could have heated it up. I noticed how strange that was. When I meditate I always had a cold wind coming down to my crown and third eye and cold air coming from my body and hands. I have on a few occasions felt a warm energy in my third eye but it is rare. Wow, are you female? I always thought that you were a guy. IP: Logged |
Amphitrite Knowflake Posts: 165 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 12, 2010 07:57 AM
Hey mochai,I can really relate to what you said about going into relationships feeling like you need to morph into what they want and maintain it. I think I do that as well. And I don't like it. It's not really sustainable, and I get tired of it as well. It can be cause for resentment almost. Amph  IP: Logged |
Amphitrite Knowflake Posts: 165 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 12, 2010 08:07 AM
Hey mir,That's interesting what you say about the similarities between my words and your experience with your ex. I'm not sure how somebody can so easily take their love like that. I seem to have the problem of not really being able to let go even when I know its not really want. But I think that my venus in scorpio doesn't give up on the possibility that my 5th house Neptune square moon creates... or something. Not sure what it is, but there have been so many times when I should have let go alot earlier than I did. And as far as your ex and his addictions, I think that overcoming his addictions is something he probably needed to work on for himself. Something he needed to do in his own space and his own time. Amph  IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 4769 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 12, 2010 08:52 AM
My mother has Neptune in Libra in 5th trine Sun in Gemini in 12th, sextile Haumea-Pluto conjunction in Leo in 3rd, and square Venus-Uranus conjunction in 2nd as well as square her Sedna in Aries in 11th and Chiron in Capricorn in 8th.My mother hasn't had a good love life. My biological father was a drug addict,and the relationship ended up being volatile and destructive. She was in a marriage of convenience with my stepfather. He lied to her boyfriend at the time that he was in a relationship with my mom when my mom was in the hospital recovering from being shot. My mom didn't find out about it until she ran into her exboyfriend almost 30 years later. She was in a brief secret relationship with her step-cousin,and my older half brother was a result. over 20 years later, they got back together. He had drug problems. She had a platonic relationship with a man who was a recovering drug addict, and he had Lupus. He died of a heart attack in 2008. My mom is white,and she's never been with a white guy. She was mainly interested in older black men.
She was forced to give her firstborn son up for adoption , and her second born son (me) had special education needs.
My father was Neptunian with stationary Neptune and Moon in Pisces her father had Moon in Pisces I am Neptunian with Moon in Pisces square Neptune
all that fits with her Neptune in 5th and its aspects
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BanxManx Knowflake Posts: 220 From: Venus Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 12, 2010 10:31 AM
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 3945 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 12, 2010 10:45 AM
This is really interesting about Neptune in the 5th, squaring the moon, and Neptune ,in general I think I have some wisdom on Neptune.I have it in the 12th with trines to Merc and the Sun in the 8th. I have experienced the best and worst parts of Neptune. My mothers Neptune was on my Pluto, making my Pluto impotent until now  I was too Neptunian in that I saw life in a very distorted way. I was in a fog. In that fog, I found I was psychic and a medical intuitive. I am exploring more realms of my psychic ability now by pushing boundaries with it to see just how far I can go. I am a musician, too. These parts of Neptune are good. The fog is horrible. I hate that numb Neptune fog with a passion. I think the antidote for any Neptune fog is to force your Pluto to deal what what you are fogged on. For example, if you are fogged on relationships, keep forcing yourself to see them in stark black and white terms as Banx described. That is MY goal for life, to see it as "real", not fogged. I did not know Banx was Sanchy when I wrote the prior posts. Banx has a Scorpio moon which may account for his ability to see life in a very real way. That is my goal and my singular passion, to see life as it is,not as *I* want it to be i.e.Neptune lol ------------------ If I am not for myself ,who am I? If I am only for myself, what am I? IP: Logged |
BanxManx Knowflake Posts: 220 From: Venus Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 12, 2010 10:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: This is really interesting about Neptune in the 5th, squaring the moon, and Neptune ,in general I think I have some wisdom on Neptune.I have it in the 12th with trines to Merc and the Sun in the 8th. I have experienced the best and worst parts of Neptune. My mothers Neptune was on my Pluto, making my Pluto impotent until now  I was too Neptunian in that I saw life in a very distorted way. I was in a fog. In that fog, I found I was psychic and a medical intuitive. I am exploring more realms of my psychic ability now by pushing boundaries with it to see just how far I can go. I am a musician, too. These parts of Neptune are good. The fog is horrible. I hate that numb Neptune fog with a passion. I think the antidote for any Neptune fog is to force your Pluto to deal what what you are fogged on. For example, if you are fogged on relationships, keep forcing yourself to see them in stark black and white terms as Banx described. That is MY goal for life, to see it as "real", not fogged. I did not know Banx was Sanchy when I wrote the prior posts. Banx has a Scorpio moon which may account for his ability to see life in a very real way. That is my goal and my singular passion, to see life as it is,not as *I* want it to be i.e.Neptune lol
Keep digging Ami. You are getting closer IP: Logged |
Amphitrite Knowflake Posts: 165 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 14, 2010 06:53 AM
Hi Glaucus,Thank you for sharing all of that history. It seems the both you and your Mum share a very large Neptune influence. It is really interesting how Neptune in the 5th fits with your Mum, and how it has all played out in her life. I'm sorry to hear that your Mum hasn't had such a good love life. I don't think that Neptune in 5th square a venus-uranus conjunction can be easy for anybody in the realm of love. Where is your Neptune situated, Glaucus? Amph  IP: Logged |
Amphitrite Knowflake Posts: 165 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 14, 2010 07:00 AM
Hey Ami Anne, Thank you for sharing the influence you have felt from Neptune. I can very much relate to the way that the Neptune fog can allow you to distort reality, it is horrible and can force you to learn some very cruel lessons. Lessons that I am only now really identifying and extracting true meaning from. I think it is both my long term and short term goal to successful navigate my way through that fog to distinguish truth from fantasy. Amph  IP: Logged |