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posted December 26, 2010 08:04 AM            

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That is OK Hmmm

My aspect in Synastry is His Neptune oppose my Venus

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posted December 26, 2010 08:05 AM            

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Dear Got Gemini
Could I ,please, ask you an off the subject question?
What does it feel like to have a Libra moon?
I am trying to feel out Libra
Thank you for any help!

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posted December 26, 2010 10:26 AM            

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I was the Venus, not sure if it was as strong since it's my Venus @ late degrees of Scorp and his Neptune in early Sag. But for the most part it was a good relationship, lots of unconditional love. It wasn't that I couldn't see HIS faults, it was that I was accepting. We had a lot of Neptune aspects in synastry + composite so I'm not sure I can tell which aspects was more likely causing it. But I think he felt vulnerable with me, my Saturn sat right on his Neptune as well.

Here's a link that describes Neptune in synastry really well for anyone who is interested. http://d.scribd.com/docs/1btqcdqf2mg7kjkq938i.pdf

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posted December 26, 2010 11:05 AM            

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Ami Ann sure! :-)

With my Libra Moon (@ 14* and conjunct Pluto), I must say I react MUCH more like a Libra than a Gemini Sun in relationships. I feel one of my most emphasized traits is the need for fairness, reciprocation, and partnership (which can be hard being a guy lol).

I will say that reciprocation is probably the most important. We don't keep score but we definitely know when there's some uneven reciprocation going on. We absolutely NEED our feelings to be reciprocated to at least an acceptable degree. Libra Moons sound like watery planets lol :-)

Oh, I absolutely, unequivocaly DO NOT LIKE ARGUING lol! We try to avoid confrontation at all costs and work hard during crisis to restore peace and harmony. This at times may come off as being passive or being a people pleaser but in all honesty, we just prefer peace and we love harmony in our relationships. We also see both sides of any given situation really well which leads to why we are very understanding. This also unfortunately makes us seem passive and like we are people pleasers sometimes.

Oh yeah, forgot to add the negatives lol! Sometimes we can be very indecisive! This is due to us wanting to make our partners happy though! Imagine the following conversation:

Libra Mooner: So what do you want to eat tonite?

Other Mooner: I dunno, what do you have a taste for?

Libra Mooner: I dunno what do you have a taste for?

Other Mooner: Hmm why don't you pick?

Libra Mooner: hmm, I don't have a specific taste for anything, what about you?

Over, and over, and over again lol!

If you want to ask anything else go right ahead :-)

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posted December 26, 2010 11:14 AM            

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As far as my experience with this aspect, I have it with a Scorpio. My Neptune conjuncts her Venus/Neptune conjunction which sextiles our double whammy (both ways) Moon/Pluto conjunction in Libra.

I recognize her faults and understand them and her. I feel like I know what makes her tick. I dont put her on a pedastal though. Shes done some detestable things that would give most people serious pause but i feel like I understand why she did them and forgive her accordingly. No one is perfect. I also feel she is my soulmate. She has feelings for me also but I never ask to what extent. For some odd reason I believe she and I will end up together, but only much later, like when we are in our late 40's.

We also have an exact Saturn square Sun double whammy both ways. We have other good and bad aspects but hey, I've loved her loooooong before I knew anything about astrology.

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posted December 26, 2010 11:31 AM            

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About Libra moon

So cute,Thanks, Got Gemini !

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Ah, great topic , venus/neptune in synastry is to me very vague..could go either way really. I have a hard time believing that venus CONJUCT neptune is a bad thing though...I only panic when I see venus square/opposed/semi-square and quincux neptune? And the only reason I panic is because with the harsh aspects its too hard to tell unless your already in the relationship to see how they will play out...I have this with my current boyfriend. His neptune is square my venus and the orb is 0.01 degrees so its pretty much exact lol..its the tightest aspect we share along with my pluto conjunct his venus (orb 0.3 degrees) its very intense the relationship, we're only together 2 weeks...I think so far its me putting him on the pedestal lol, damn neptune, I hope everything goes okay although I do have my mind on that square.

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posted December 26, 2010 12:29 PM            

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Whats the difference of Venus/Neptune to Moon/Neptune

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How do you get past Neptune, and see clearly?

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posted December 27, 2010 02:59 PM            

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Dear Lioness,
This is just my sense of Venus/Pluto and Moon/Pluto and the difference.
Venus/Pluto is your deepest love nature(Venus) bound with his deepest primal nature(Pluto)

Moon /Pluto is your warmest, deepest heart(Moon) bound with his deepest primal nature (Pluto)

You know what Moon/Pluto feels like to me?
I want to wash his hair,give him a bath,put powder and oil on him and wrap him in a blanket.
I am making myself cry lol

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posted December 27, 2010 03:10 PM            

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Lioness, I think Moon/Neptune is more, emotional love (very unconditional). With Venus/Neptune, it's more like they are your romantic ideal. I had both in my last synastry so it feels pretty lumped together lol.

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From the link I posted earlier

"Neptune-Moon Aspects in Synastry

Contacts between Neptune and the Moon involve many dimensions of the
archetypal experience of mother. This encompasses a vast spectrum of emotional
states, from the infant's fusion-needs to the feeling of being loved
and needed which is so essential to us all. A great degree of mutual dependency
may be reflected by these contacts, and also deep mutual empathy.
Often there is a powerful need on the part of both people to nurtute, cherish
and even "save" each other from the loneliness and darkness of the
world "out there." But these aspects can also reflect very murky undercurrents,
through unwillingness to be anything except mother and child for
each other. Neptune experiences the Moon as an idealized comforter and
container, totally responsive to all the unvoiced needs and longings of the
child within. Neptune's feeling of being held and contained in a kind of
womb-state transcends the genders of the people involved. The Moon,
because it is related to the body and the instincts, has an earthiness and
stability which make Neptune feel safe. Neptune perceives in the Moon
person (even if a man) the maternal redeemer of one's earliest dreams and
fantasies. This redeemer understands without explanations, has compassion
regardless of the severity of one's transgression, loves without judgement
and testing, and will always be there to provide emotional warmth
and shelter, food and forgiveness.

Those liPs are thine-thy own sweet smiles I see,
The same that oft in childhood solaced me;
Voice only fails, else, how distinct they say,
"Grieve not, my child, chase all thy fears away!"

The Moon may respond positively to this role of mothering-at least initially-
because the need to be needed is a fundamental aspect of the lunar
side of us. The Moon will often sense Neptune's vulnetability and helplessness,
even if the Neptune petson has succeeded in masking it from others
and even from himself or herself. Neptune feels that, at last, one has
found a person to whom one can reveal one's whole heart. Much healing
can emerge from this cross-aspect, especially if the Moon person's early life
involved emotional deprivation. In experiencing the maternal role, the
Moon person may redeem his or her own childhood, as well as providing a
container for Neptune's longings. Through this connection with a powerful
healing archetype, Neptune-Moon contacts in synastry may create a
profound and lasting bond of empathy and trust which can help to assuage
the hurts in both people, and redress the wounds of the family past.
Problems may arise when any separateness is threatened by either party.
Neptune may become too dependent on the Moon's special empathy, feeling
lost and bewildered at the intrusion of friends, spouse, or even one's
own child. If the contact occurs between a couple who have a child, hurt
and unhappiness may arise around the issue of the child's claim on the
Moon parent, because the Neptune parent wishes to be the best-loved
child himself or herself. Neptune is not jealous in the usual sense; jealousy
is too individual and passionate an emotion. Lack of obvious jealousy in
the Neptune person may in fact be a source of resentment for a partner who
feels devalued by it. The Neptune person may simply feel bereft and
empty, and may, from this place of hopeless passivity, become extremely
manipulative in order to reclaim the Moon's attention. This may be
reflected in failure, depression or illness-all unconsciously geared toward
reestablishing the primal fusion of mother and child.
The Moon is itself capable of considerable possessiveness (Cancet
being equal to if not more intense than Scorpio in this respect). The Moon
person may also feel an exclusive claim, resenting Neptune's need of others
and desiring to be the one and only caretaker of this special, magical
child. The Moon may express its possessiveness in very concrete ways,
demanding the Neptune person's constant physical presence. Neptune
may feel overwhelmed, both by the Moon's demands and by the feelings of
dependency which the Moon person invokes; and the Neptune person may
become angry and frightened, and reject the Moon. Or, disillusioned by
the Moon's own neediness (the redeemer is not supposed to need anything
himself or herself), Neptune may feel aggrieved and betrayed, and justify
deceit or retaliation. Sometimes the climate, in a relationship involving
Moon-Neptune cross-aspects, can become somewhat humid and swamplike.
Both people may resort to manipulation in order to preserve closeness in the relationship; neither person may be aware of doing so. The Moon
may secretly wish Neptune to remain permanently childlike, and may
resent any independent endeavour which could herald the end of the symbiosis,
or any happiness in Neptune's life that has not arrived there
through the Moon person's agency. The Moon person may unconsciously
try to undermine the Neptune person's confidence, emphasising Neptune's
weaknesses and underplaying its strengths. All the rewards and problems
of the mother-child bond may be enacted in this cross-aspect; and gender
is not relevant. The contact may occur between male and female partners,
homosexual partners, friends, or an actual parent and child. Sometimes the
parent's Neptune and the child's Moon make a strong cross-aspect. Then
the parent's own unformedness may reach our to the child, who is unconsciously
called upon to parent the parent.
Moon-Neptune cross-aspects can create an exquisite feeling of "twinship"-
the sense of a "soul-family" which transcends biological bonds.
Moon-Neptune contacts can generate a safe, warm, and trusting atmosphere
which supports both people through life's difficulties. The relationship
has more of the ambience of "soul-friends" than of "soul-lovers," and
may contain considerable idealisation of each others' imaginative and sensitive
qualities. It can become clinging and claustrophobic if either person
is unable to sustain an independent individuality apart from the relationship.
If the aspect is "hard," there is more likelihood of impossible idealization, a mutual misunderstanding of needs, and greater disappointment
and resentment. Neither planet is known for its directness, and the disillusionment
and hurt are rarely expressed overtly; therein lies the potential
destructiveness of the contact. Moon-Neptune cross-aspects can offer nourishment,
peace, and a healing of many early hurts. Acted our unconsciously,
they can also unleash between two people the devouring maw of
the ancient water-mother. Their expression depends in large part upon
whether the two individuals have managed, at least to some extent, to cur
the umbilical cord in their own lives. If either or both have not, then sooner
or later the bliss of Eden will be disrupted by the serpent of possessiveness,
manipulation, and deceit."

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Both from, http://d.scribd.com/docs/1btqcdqf2mg7kjkq938i.pdf

Neptune- Venus Aspects in Synastry

"Neptune- Venus contacts are as, romantic in synastry as they are in the
natal chart",Venus is both sensual and aesthetic, reflecting its dual rulership
over Taurus and Libra; and it is this combination of physical charm
and mental grace which powerfully constellates Neptune's longing. The
sexual dynamics of this cross-aspect may, however, pose certain difficulties
in a love-relationship. Venus-Neptune exchanges have provided inspiration
for poetry and fiction since time immemorial, for the ancient conflict
of carnal versus spiritual is often implicit in them, a,.sis the pain of illicit
desire. Neptune differs from Venus because it reflects devotion to an idealised
image, rather than appreciation of one indi~idual for another, separate
individual. Neptune often fantasises the physical consummation of
love as a mystical union; but the more coarse aspects of the sexual act, with '$
its noises and smells, and the transience of its pleasure, may seem a violation
of something sacred. As Catullus once wrote, after coitus all animals
are sad. Venus may inflame Neptune's fantasies, but may have to wait a
long time before Neptune does anything about them; and Neptune may
even run away at the critical moment, or inexplicably cool off during or after the act of love itself. Venus' appreciation teqds to be earthier (even if
placed in an airy sign), and more related to the qualities of the other person,
including the qualities of the other person's body; and Venus loves
being adored for her own body as well. Neptune loves the soul in the other.
Venus simply loves the other, and wants to show it in every possible
human way. This can generate exquisite tenderness between two people;
but it may generate bitter disillusionment as well.
Sometimes Venus-Neptune relationships are not "consummated" in
a physical sense, or may prove a disappointment on this level. One of the
partners may, from the outset, seek sexual solace elsewhere and indulge in
considerable deception; or the sexual relationship may be limited or severed
because of previous obligations. Sometimes the cross-aspect occurs
between people who are separated by the conflict of different racial or religious
backgrounds, or who live in different countries and are unable to
uproot. Sometimes one person is willing, but the other has taken religious
vows. Yet Venus' power to invoke Neptune's dreams arises from an erotic
fascination which is firmly rooted in the body. Neptune's idealisation may
make the Venus person feel more beautiful and worthwhile; the experience
of having one's Venus strongly aspected by a lover's Neptune can be, at
least initially, wonderfully healing to many childhood wounds, and may
assuage those feelings of physical flawedness which every human being
experiences. Venus-Neptune in synastry may reflect the state of being "in
love" par excellence, aItd a close aspect between these planets is often strong
enough to burn through previous commitments and overturn even a hardbitten
Saturn's cynicism about love and life. Some of the feeling of VenusNeptune
is superbly expressed in the poetry of John Donne.
When love, with one another so
I nterinanimates two soules,
That abler soule, which thence doth flow,
Defects of lonelinesse controules.
Wee then, who are this new soule, know,
Of what we are compos'd, and made,
For, th'Atomies of which we grow,
Are soules, whom no change can invade .
. . . And if some lover, such as wee,
Have heard this dialogue of one,
Let him still marke us, he shall see
Small change, when we're to bodies gone)

However, these feelings of eternity and the union of souls may prove
to be so overwhelming that the Neptune person unconsciously avoids the
sexual act-although not fantasies about the act. Neptune's longing for
dissolution may create a profound reluctance to participate in the individual
give and take which the act of love requires. The Venus person may
then begin to wonder what has gone wrong, and may become more direct
in initiating physical contact, sometimes expressing overt seductiveness. If
Neptune becomes too fearful of losing control, then Venus may be accused
of sexual manipulation, and Neptune may become insufferably moral and
project all those shameful bodily longings onto the baffled and hurt partner.
Because Neptune is connected with our most primal feelings toward
the mother, Neptune's erotic fascination may carry an incestuous or illicit
taint; and the guilt arising from such unconscious feelings may cause the
Neptune person to perceive Venus as an archetypal tempter or temptress.
If there have been disturbances in the Neptune person's relationship with
the mother, such a response, after the initial attraction, is not uncommon.
Neptune may react to the terror of falling under Venus' sexual power by
finding fault with Venus' physical reality. Neptune may find the fantasy
preferable to the wart on Venus' left shoulder, or the three grey hairs, or
the slight bulge which appears around the waist and hips after an enjoyable
holiday. This may herald loss of sexual interest, or pursuit of another
erotic object who promises to be closer to the ideal-until the new love object
turns out to have a wart on the right shoulder, or flat feet. One of
the most unhappy dimensions of Venus-Neptune contacts lies in this
Neptunian flight from the bodily reality of Venus' love, for it can lead to
considerable pain. Some consciousness of what lies behind these defence
mechanisms may help both people to work with the dilemma; Venus can
learn greater compassion and sensitivity, and Neptune can learn greater
appreciation of the physical dimension of love.
Equally, Neptune may respond to the power of Venus' fascination by
attempting to bind Venus, first through trying strenuously to please, and
then through self-victimisation. Neptune may attempt to blackmail
Venus into greater declarations of love and loyalty, becoming needy and
clinging, or even ill. Venus in myth is not a particularly patient or compassionate
goddess; she is vain, capricious, and intent on her own pleasures.
Venus within the individual may react to Neptune's manipulative
ploys with increasing distaste, and a tendency to look elsewhere for a less
pathetic companion. This unfortunate scenario may be glimpsed in those
established relationships where one partner suffers rejection and humiliation
in full knowledge of the other's infidelities, unable to break the grip
of the idealisation, and colluding with the partner's acting out of archetypal Venusian shallowness and disloyalty. Here Venus plays the role of the
seducer and deceiver. Or the Venus person may simply walk out, angry and
hurt, leaving Neptune bereft with all its longings unfulfilled, victim to
another's sexual wiles. The subtlety, complexity, and intensity of VenusNeptune
contacts in synastry emphasise the importance of ego-boundaries
and emotional directness, so that both people can deal with their responses
honestly and sensitively. Venus can offer Neptune the opportunity to
bring exquisite and inspiring emotions into physical life; Venus' earthier
love and capacity for contentment can help Neptune to heal much of its
deep loneliness and distaste for incarnation. With Venus-Neptune crossaspects,
sexual love may become a vehicle for ecstatic feelings of unity with
all life. Neptune can open Venus' heart with a compassion based not on
individual merit but on the sadness, beauty, tragedy, and nobility of all
human love."

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posted December 27, 2010 03:31 PM            

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shrugs

I had a gay landlord/roomate.

My Venus conjunct his Neptune within 1 degree in Scorpio.

There definitely was no romantic attraction.

It was platonic.

He and I shared some spiritual interests. He was a buddhist.

He and I shared Moon in Pisces aspecting Neptune in 3rd in common. His was a trine. Mine is a square.

He and I were both diagnosed as having bipolar disorder. He also believed that he had ADHD like me.

He had a history of drug problems. He regularly used marijuana for medical purposes.

any ways
Venus conjunct Neptune in synastry doesn't necessarily mean romantic attraction. It doesn't necessarily mean an idealization.
There was no idealizing on either of our parts.

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posted December 27, 2010 03:48 PM            

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Lol and I'm sure I probably won't have any attraction to every single person (especially females) who has their Neptune conj my Venus or vise versa. I was just speaking from my experience with an ex.

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There's a conjunct between my Neptune and my boyfriend's Neptune. His Venus conjuncts my Mercury, and both those planets are opposite our Neptunes. He definitely puts me on a pedestal a little too often, but it doesn't hurt when I can't meet his expectations. There's a sense of knowing how to forgive our shortcomings, and I try to reel him in if I feel he's getting carried away. He does the same for me, too. I definitely put him on a pedestal. Still, we seem to find a way to see that it's all getting a little too flighty, and dial it down.

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posted December 27, 2010 03:56 PM            

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What's up Glaucus! Happy Holidays!

I feel that synastry is activated by attraction. So, while you may have had the aspect with your landlord and probably loads of other people, you aren't attracted to all of them. That's just my very humble take on it all. I know your a LOT more (understatement lol) knowledgeable about astrology than I but that's just the way I see it.

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What's up Glaucus! Happy Holidays!

I feel that synastry is activated by attraction. So, while you may have had the aspect with your landlord and probably loads of other people, you aren't attracted to all of them. That's just my very humble take on it all. I know your a LOT more (understatement lol) knowledgeable about astrology than I but that's just the way I see it.

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Good point

Like I pointed out earlier, he and I shared spiritual beliefs in common.

oh ....he offered me some marijuana,but I refused

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"oh ....he offered me some marijuana,but I refused"

LOL

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posted December 27, 2010 06:43 PM            

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Pisces Sag moon conjuncts my Neptune by 1 orb..

No wonder he keeps telling me, he would do anything for me... He said and you can bet money on that!!

Ahhhhhh.....

Isnt he dreamy... (lol) never thought I would say that...

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posted December 28, 2010 09:47 PM            

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@ Soulful.. Thanks for that article.. I sat and read it, it makes alot of sense, and it is pretty close to what has happened with me and Pisces.. Geez way to much Neptune going on between us..

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Guys,u that have experienced this conjunction,have neptune person ever felt venus person too carnal 4 him/her? What is the point when idealisation bubble would burst?

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posted December 28, 2010 11:19 PM            

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I have this aspect with pretty much everyone born around late 1978/early 79. I was born with a natal exact Venus/Neptune conjunction.

I think it is probably is a platonic aspect -- I have never had a relationship with anyone born within a year of me. They are always 2 - 5 years older or younger.

I have Libra rising, so Venus is also my ruling planet and it also exactly sextiles Pluto -- another generational, meaning my Venus sextiles a lot of other people's Pluto that are my own age. It's hard for me to pinpoint what effect it has because i'm s used to it.

I can tell you, I don't date people born at that time (not on purpose, just never happens), but I do make deep friendships with them and I've always been somehow idealized by them and admired as a good, trustworthy person. I've always been a popular "friend" amongst my age group and thought of with lots of affection.

I'm drawn to men born in 75/76 and interestingly that puts their Pluto right on or just after my ASC @ 7 Libra. @ssholes. LOL.

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Guys,u that have experienced this conjunction,have neptune person ever felt venus person too carnal 4 him/her? What is the point when idealisation bubble would burst?

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With miss Scorpio, I'm the Neptune person and no, I've never thought she was too carnal for me. I've read that the Neptune person sees the union as being very spiritual and transcends above making love and that the Venus person just wants to get it on. I think a good mix of the two couldn't hurt ;-)

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Got Gemini,no,it wouln'td hurt,but i prefer openess to physical/spiritual love in one person,not devided. So,u didn't mind that she wasn't in the same love department as u? Was there indeed spiritual love and connection or were u the element that made it like that? Whose who prefer spiritual form of love don't need reationship,don't need it to be realised,after all it is spiritual.

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