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firecracker
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posted January 03, 2011 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jwhops, why are you letting these people call you jwop? i don't find it cute. Wop is a U.S. pejorative slur for people from Italy, i can add the "s" making you jwhops plural with all of the resepct in the world. however, jwop, i find offensive, unless you are ok with it, people who can't be bothered to address you properly.

unrequited love, huge waste of time, time is our most valuable commodity, so wasting it yearning for someone who doesn't return feelings...is well, nonsense.

personally i think a lot of unrequited love is due to the fact of someone not being ready for or wanting a real relationship, so to be in love with someone who is unavailable really fits the bill....same as falling in love with a married, gay or incapacitated man, prison, hospital, long distance emailationship....whatever. somewhat self delusional.

not trying to be cynical, just honest. i would look for badly aspected neptune, 12th house venus, or hard transits to either. sometimes we tell ourself that we don't want what we seek out, and we seek and find what we do for a reason. just my 2 cents.


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posted January 03, 2011 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini??     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honestly, I think the unrequited love thing is due more to non-mutual attraction, non-compatible types, and differences in perceptions of the interactions between the two people.

Personally, I think synastry is activated by attraction and interaction. If one person is attracted to another, the synastry is activated for them but if the other person is not attracted the synastry is not activated for them. I'm sure we come across lots of people who have great synastry with us that aren't our types and that we aren't attracted to.

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kfn327
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posted January 04, 2011 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kfn327     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blue way more in love than red:

Red way more in love than blue:

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posted January 04, 2011 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for britterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the first chart, Red's Venus and Mars are in Blue's fifth house, which is supposedly an aspect that causes person Blue to view person Red as a romantic "ideal". The Red's Sun and Mercury and Uranus are in Blue's fifth as well, but I am not sure if that enhances the effect.

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posted January 04, 2011 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for britterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The second one has some Moon/Pluto double whammies going on, and I guess if your Moon is opposed by someone else's Pluto then you are going to be deeply emotionally drawn to that person. Not sure what the deal is with the Moon/Pluto trine, but I guess since the one who's Moon is trined by Pluto isn't feeling it as much as the person who's Moon is opposed Pluto, then it's probably not that strong of an aspect. Perhaps Pluto is more strongly felt in oppositions, squares and conjunctions?

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posted January 05, 2011 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"jwhops, why are you letting these people call you jwop?"...firecracker

Well firecracker, I didn't react because I didn't perceive Ami Anne to be...shall we say...wising off. Was I just being naive and unperceptive?

However, posting in Astrology has brought to the surface something that some of the longer standing members have dealt with before and which decided them to not engage in answering astrology questions.

In a nutshell, it's this:

Members ask astrology questions...sometimes complex questions and when the answer(s) come, there's no response or even acknowledgment the questioner(s) has/have read the information they requested.

It's like posting into a cyber vacuum.

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Doreen
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posted June 19, 2011 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read somewhere that Venus square Uranus was an indicator
BUT that's not true
I know a couple they have Venus square Uranus DW and are doing just fine
One of them has Venus in Aquarius maybe that could be a reason they are still together ?

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iliketurtles
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posted June 19, 2011 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iliketurtles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^
I had this with two people an both times it was love at first sight it's electrifying!


quote:
Originally posted by Got Gemini??:
Honestly, I think the unrequited love thing is due more to non-mutual attraction, non-compatible types, and differences in perceptions of the interactions between the two people.

Personally, I think synastry is activated by attraction and interaction. If one person is attracted to another, the synastry is activated for them but if the other person is not attracted the synastry is not activated for them. I'm sure we come across lots of people who have great synastry with us that aren't our types and that we aren't attracted to.


absolutely spot on

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Doreen
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posted March 11, 2012 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Once again brilliant work Lotis White
Thank you

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Betty Boop
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posted March 11, 2012 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like Lonake's projection idea. It makes sense!

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Doreen
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posted March 11, 2012 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Betty Boop:
I like Lonake's projection idea. It makes sense!

Yeah that part was very interesting too

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posted March 11, 2012 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwhop:
For issues of "unrequited love", look for Venus square or oppose Pluto in a synastry chart.

Pluto has the power in this relationship since this is a karmic aspect/relationship and the Pluto person was wronged by the Venus person in the past.

So says Linda Goodman in "Relationship Signs".


So what would Pluto get out of this "karmic" relationship after it's all said and done? Lol

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posted March 11, 2012 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Can Neptune do the same thing, if Neptune hits one person and maybe not the other, then Neptune see's that person as perfect... lol


What about Venus in someone's 12th.. I read that, but Im not sure..


You're right I read it too...Venus square Neptune or Jupiter square neptune

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posted October 25, 2013 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoVeLy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwhop:
For issues of "unrequited love", look for Venus square or oppose Pluto in a synastry chart.

Pluto has the power in this relationship since this is a karmic aspect/relationship and the Pluto person was wronged by the Venus person in the past.

So says Linda Goodman in "Relationship Signs".



Is it venus who experiences the unrequited love and why ?

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Lotis White
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posted October 25, 2013 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exciting this thread got bumped again!

quote:
Originally posted by Got Gemini??:
Honestly, I think the unrequited love thing is due more to non-mutual attraction, non-compatible types, and differences in perceptions of the interactions between the two people.

Personally, I think synastry is activated by attraction and interaction. If one person is attracted to another, the synastry is activated for them but if the other person is not attracted the synastry is not activated for them. I'm sure we come across lots of people who have great synastry with us that aren't our types and that we aren't attracted to.


I actually agree with this as well. Aside from the 'love house' activation theory, involving overlays and house-ruler synastry with the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, and sometimes the secondary 5th, 7th, and 8th houses (One of my favorite astrological topics, in case anyone couldn't guess).

I think our charts give a pretty good idea of the type of synastry we'd like, and if someone can't fulfill this it may turn out to be a mismatch. My thoughts are that that the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, along with certain other important parts of our chart, like the positions and aspects of Sun, Moon, Venus, and Mars, are very telling about the kind of synastry we prefer in general.

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posted October 25, 2013 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ash20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwhop:
For issues of "unrequited love", look for Venus square or oppose Pluto in a synastry chart.

Pluto has the power in this relationship since this is a karmic aspect/relationship and the Pluto person was wronged by the Venus person in the past.

So says Linda Goodman in "Relationship Signs".




I've had this aspect with someone. I was pluto and yes at first i had the upper hand but once i fell in love venus was in complete controll of the relationship. Idk if thats because he had it natally though. Venus person broke it off with me and i wasn't able to let go.
I think pluto only has controll if pluto doesn't actually care about the venus person.

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LoVeLy
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posted October 26, 2013 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoVeLy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ash20:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jwhop:
[b]For issues of "unrequited love", look for Venus square or oppose Pluto in a synastry chart.

Pluto has the power in this relationship since this is a karmic aspect/relationship and the Pluto person was wronged by the Venus person in the past.

So says Linda Goodman in "Relationship Signs".




I've had this aspect with someone. I was pluto and yes at first i had the upper hand but once i fell in love venus was in complete controll of the relationship. Idk if thats because he had it natally though. Venus person broke it off with me and i wasn't able to let go.
I think pluto only has controll if pluto doesn't actually care about the venus person.[/B][/QUOTE]
Oh okay

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posted October 26, 2013 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most of the times unrequited love doesn`t show in a particular aspect, but in that which is NOT there. A lack of resonance.

I haven`t found Venus-Pluto-squares to be about unrequited love UNLESS there were some other testimonies of this.

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I know this is pretty random and I could be totally wrong but I have this theory that it will show in the SR chart for that year... (SR personal planets/angles of the person who feels it more conjunct the other persons natal planets). Assuming of course this doesn't span out for years and they actually have some amount of contact

I've had unrequited experiences going both ways, and noticed that when it was me who didn't reciprocate the feelings, his solar return chart for that year had SR Mars conjunct my natal Mars exact, and SR Moon conjunct my natal Sun exact. When I was pining after my Aqua ex (he wanted someone else at the time but we ended up getting back together the next year) my SR ASC was conjunct his natal Moon, and SR Moon was conjunct his natal Venus. My SR chart for this year has MC exactly conjunct the Sun of the Cancer guy I used to obsess about all the time on this forum lol

So idk that's just been my experience but I'd be curious to know if anyone else has noticed anything similar??

Also I've noticed if planets in the progressed composite conjunct one persons natal planets, this can sometimes also show the timing of it being unrequited...

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posted July 01, 2014 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Most of the times unrequited love doesn`t show in a particular aspect, but in that which is NOT there. A lack of resonance.



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posted July 03, 2014 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FireMoon:
I know this is pretty random and I could be totally wrong but I have this theory that it will show in the SR chart for that year... (SR personal planets/angles of the person who feels it more conjunct the other persons natal planets). Assuming of course this doesn't span out for years and they actually have some amount of contact

Yep, very good point. Noticed the same thing. It's fascinating. SR planets/angles falling on someone's natal placements. It's basically like they're tuned into that energy for a while (during the SR) and someone comes along and displays that energy fully (natally) and bam! There's a sort of feeling there... sometimes, haha.

I suppose, like you said, that the person with the SR placements conjuncting someone's natal placements would be more affected.

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Also I've noticed if planets in the progressed composite conjunct one persons natal planets, this can sometimes also show the timing of it being unrequited...

Yeah, if someone's natal or progressed placements conjunct the composite or progressed composite placements, they're usually quite affected by the relationship itself. This needs more investigation.

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posted July 03, 2014 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for viiv28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me unrequited love happened when the person was very close to "my ideal partner", that is his sun was on my descendant, his mars on my moon and so on. Also, I agree, Neptune needs to be involved, because it is the planet of illusions.

With Pluto /Venus I notice more "bad" love versus unrequited one.

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