posted January 15, 2011 06:34 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Well,guys,have u noticed among ur fervent conversation,where u bash all social hypocrisy and staled opinions,that u bring affirmation to the subject as well?
Let's break all rules! Love knows no age!! And again,that magical number 18... Why 18? 18 doesn't do anything. It is law. Work of men. Against society and yet working by society's laws. Even scientists say so. Brain ends its formation at 21 and its peak has at 22,while progresses up to 27yrs. Nature says our sexual life can begin at 12. At that point we sexually mature. In middle centuries, girls blossomed into womanhood at age 20-24.
I must say,for me love knows age.

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Not in my case, I'm in the UK and the age of consent has always been 16 yet I'm not attracted to teenagers...apart from the one I like now who is 22 ( he was 19 when I first met him),
we may be biologically equipped to have sex at 12 but emotionally we are not, a child of 2 can by rights cross a road alone but we would not let them do so. (sorry not the best analogy but I'm low on caffeine)

posted January 15, 2011 06:56 AM            

In a capsule,it all boils down to your perspective towards this relationship

1) Never expect any sense of permanence other than enjoying your present moment. In other words always be prepared for the possibility of changes on either sides.The lesser your expectations are, the more your chances will be of a potentially happier life. This does not mean you don't get to enjoy a normal ;all I am saying is do not spend your present by fearing your future that did not even happen yet.

3) My suggested approach towards ANY relationship is to take it more as an opportunity for both to teach and/or learn something from each other; just because he is older than you does not mean he has nothing to learn from it. I believe in synchronicity; there is always some reason why we attract people into our lives. People in general, have this polluted this word called 'soul mate', as if it something that only certain set of people are qualified to be your 'chosen soul mate'. Every person that you interact with at that point in time, is your soul mate. Nothing happens by accident. If you can grasp the intrinsic meaning behind my words, you will see what kind of a paradigm shift it will bring upon you, and from then on nothing will remain a puzzle anymore.
Again, it is all a matter of your PERSPECTIVES.

posted January 15, 2011 10:49 AM            

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wait. I am probably just reading this wrong, just ignore me if I am but did you say that when you were 20 you got with 90 year olds?

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Now what I am going to say may sound weird or kinky...but I do not feel that way. It was very tender and surreal in some ways. But
I feel it was a gift both given and received.
This older gentleman I had know for 12 years...was approaching his 96th birthday. He was spry and fit as a far younger man. Sharp of mind also. Well I was sitting with him one day on a steps behind his barn. We were just sitting there and he suddenly began speaking very softly of his first and second wives. He told me how he never saw either one of them in their all together. Nude that is. How they both dressed and undressed and slipped into bed. How they did this in a closet so he never saw them. I kept listening...wondering where he was going with this. I was 27 years old at the time. He told me how neither one let him touch their breasts. They wore binders instead of bras. Still trying to keep the image of a flat chested 1920s flapper or a girlish Victorian figure.
He told me how his mother was an ample bosomed woman and was not afraid to let him lean against her chest and be held by her when he was a child 90 years ago.
He spoke of being faithful to them both.
(the wives)
He then looked deeply into my eyes and took both my hands and said.."What I would give to feel a woman's breast on my hands or to lean my face against."
He was so serious, and pleading was in his eyes. I lifted his hands to my chest...he was trembling...I put one of his hands gently inside my shirt(I was not wearing a bra)....and then he closed his eyes and a look of such reverence and peace...not lust ...crossed his dear sweet handsome old face. I opened my shirt and he opened his eyes. His hands drew back slowly...he had tears streaming down his face but he was no longer trembling. He breathed a thank you softly and most heartfelt...and like some sacred ritual he slowly closed my shirt and buttoned each button ever so slowly and gently. Then he began crying in big shaking sobs and laid his head upon my now covered chest. I held him and for many minutes we sat like that...then to my amazement he began to snore!!!!! I let him sleep there on my bosom as I held him(he was a small man). Then he stirred and opened his eyes, and looked up at me, and said:
I dreamt of my mother. I don't think I will be here long after my birthday(the 96th. one)
and I want a birthday party. He had his birthday party! It was very nice!
Three weeks later he quietly slipped out of this life.(As I write this..it still chokes me up...I loved him )
Love is not always about sex. Touching is not always about sex. Intimacy can be precious, sacred, and a gift of love, compassion and caring for another person.
This memory of that special encounter still brings tears of sweet joy and sadness to me after so many years.

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posted January 15, 2011 10:56 AM            

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Magus!
Thank you!
I was trying to show that love has many ways of being expressed and age is not a factor.
But I really like how you pointed out the fact that my experience very well expresses the societal and dogmatic warpings of our natural instincts of love and sharing tenderness..and yes...even wild mad passionate sexual ecstasies with whomever we choose and how and what we do.

Yes...he and I had alot of long talks over the 12 years I knew him. He called me his barefoot girl or angel of mercy...depending on his mood and all. I often went without shoes...and this for some reason fasinated him.
He was a very sweet but sad man. He had long but very proper marriages but never passion.
That was the only time things became that intimate physically with him. I would not have minded if he had come on to me...but I was afraid I would give him a heart attack.
I know this sounds strange...but he was still handsome...he smelled great and had lovely soulfull eyes. I would have been honoured if he had wanted to be more intimate with me. I did not find him repulsive in the least. Perhaps I even gained some good Karma because of how I felt about him and other old people when I was young.
I am not young...yet I find the gifts I gave of myself to those who were much older is now returning to me in so many ways.
I feel blessed.
I treasure the memories of my old loves now passed on...and it is nice to be able to share that after so long...
You know...that story of my experience could be called..the first time..the only time..the last time...
Spooky!
For it was his first and his only and his last touch and sight of a breast bared and allowed to see and touch.
Yes...he loved his mother dearly...and the nearer to his dying day..the more he spoke of her and how she held him so long ago..90 years for him...until societal mores dictated that a boy over 6 should not lay his head upon his mother's bosom because that was not nice and all that crap.

Yes..mores..societal dictates..customs...dogmatic views...
all serve quite often to limit unfairly and warp our natural inclinations to love and give.
Thanks again Magus!

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posted January 15, 2011 12:21 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Well,guys,have u noticed among ur fervent conversation,where u bash all social hypocrisy and staled opinions,that u bring affirmation to the subject as well?
Let's break all rules! Love knows no age!! And again,that magical number 18... Why 18? 18 doesn't do anything. It is law. Work of men. Against society and yet working by society's laws. Even scientists say so. Brain ends its formation at 21 and its peak has at 22,while progresses up to 27yrs. Nature says our sexual life can begin at 12. At that point we sexually mature. In middle centuries, girls blossomed into womanhood at age 20-24.
I must say,for me love knows age.

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Exactly!
We must obey the laws of society.
And yes, I was very sexually aware as young as 4, I KNEW what orgasms were and had them via self pleasuring.
However, emotionally I feel I was not mature enough for any serious relationships with sex until I was 18;
and in retrospect, more likely 23 or so.
So yes, there is a big difference betwixt the age of sexually aware and emotionally ready for such.
That is why there are laws to protect the very sexual but emotionally immature minor age folks under age 18.
Also, without such laws, the sexual predators would get away with far more than they do already.

posted January 15, 2011 05:33 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
I could swear I posted an answer earlier today...! Never mind...
Lexx,very noble of you.

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posted January 15, 2011 07:12 PM            

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Originally posted by LEXX:
Thank you!
Yes you posted here; http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/207000-3.html
next to last post on that page.
I quoted you too on this page.
Or did you post again and it vanished?
Lots of posting glitches lately.

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posted January 16, 2011 12:12 AM            

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Originally posted by LEXX:
VenusDiSirius
Physically I was in puberty beginning at 8 years old, and knew and had orgasms as young as 4.
However sexual and emotionally maturity together, did not hit what I would think of as "adult",
until about age 23 for me.
I feel much happier with my sexuality now, than when I was younger.

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posted January 16, 2011 12:33 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Is ur sexuality shown in ur chart??

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How do I determine that?

posted January 16, 2011 12:36 AM            

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How do I determine that?

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posted January 16, 2011 01:52 AM            

I noticed you are also Aries/Leo - We have the same sun signs.

I say - the age difference doesn't matter.
But if you asked me before I'd met him, three years ago - I would've answered "what?? no way I'd ever fall in love with someone 20 years older!".

I think I even said something negative about age differences on this website. I've been on here since I was 17 - and from 17 - 22, I thought it was just strange for anyone to be with someone that much older/younger.

But I was extremely wrong & immature to think that way, because it really does NOT matter at all.
You know the connection you have is significant and real, and that's all that matters ultimately.

posted January 17, 2011 05:57 AM            

I have done new Synastry Chart for both of you, without Asteroids.

Very important here are three things:

1. Both of you are ASC Cancer (they are in conjunction)
2. The Moons, rulers of your ASC are in trine: very good.
3. Ruler of both DESC, Saturn: both Saturn have only good aspects.
Your Saturn trine his Sun: you want stable relationship with him;
His Saturn sextile your Venus: stability and love, together.

MC means also partner: here is ruler Jupiter (traditional Astrology).
His Jupiter trine your ASC: very good because he makes you richer (in some kind);
Your Jupiter trine your Mercury, ruler of your IC (home).

Even if there are oppositions and squares their rulers of angles (ASC, DESC, MC and IC) are very important.

Good luck,
Bobbie

posted January 17, 2011 06:05 AM            

I should have you as a counsellor to make the right decisions in my life.

So, I had always wrong decisions (ASC Libra) because I had some computer in my head.
They were younger and much younger and I have never listened to my heart, but to my head.

After all, my chronic pains became worse and worse, so I am blocked for all, as somebody has damned me. I am not going to die from those pains, because I am already dead.

Wl, Bobbie

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posted January 17, 2011 08:12 AM            

Pluto in the 8th. Powerful place for it to be.
Venus in the 11th, you make friends easily and many of them. People are drawn to you.

Also I have to say I like your story. It was very sweet and while the actual thought of me being with a man that much older than me makes me cringe I understand how precious it was. All the poor man ever wanted was some comfort that only a woman can give.

posted January 17, 2011 08:17 AM            

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Lexx,
Bam,wam,thank u ma'am

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Scorpio stellium(saturn!) cappy asc(mars' sexual child) 8th H pluto trans)formative sexuality
;aqua moon:walking aroung braless (=always wanted to do that,but,alas,my cancer venus..and ample bosom...
It passes tease/freedom line and goes into vulgar,if i do that)
And ur t-squares... Impressive! In enjoy the challenge way

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posted January 17, 2011 08:36 AM            

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LEXX- Uranus in the 7th! No wonder you are attracted to relationships outside the "norm". Uranus likes to break rules and go against the flow and create their own version of the rules. All that is shown in your relationships. Normal relationships = boring for you.

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Story of my life. Looks like Uranus really has its way no matter which house it occupies, and 7th house makes it even more trippy.

posted January 17, 2011 10:00 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
It has SUCH a negative conotation?!?!
I apologize,deeply.
I meant quite the opposite.
U sounded very much lady-with-power...
Again,my friends and i(english not our native,but still good) have always used phrase in very flattering and enpowering meaning. Awesome lady,so we thank u for that. I have never considered possible sexual undertone...
So sorry

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Oh!
Here is a very good link for many of the meanings of

Wham Bam Thank You Ma'am

posted January 17, 2011 10:16 AM            

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Originally posted by bonadea33:
Dear LEXX,

I should have you as a counsellor to make the right decisions in my life.

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So, I had always wrong decisions (ASC Libra) because I had some computer in my head.
They were younger and much younger and I have never listened to my heart, but to my head.

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After all, my chronic pains became worse and worse, so I am blocked for all, as somebody has damned me. I am not going to die from those pains, because I am already dead.

Wl, Bobbie

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