posted February 02, 2011 10:11 PM            

well, in regards to al pacino, i don't think he's INTJ like in real life, but his character as michael very much is. in a very pluto/saturn way. in al pacino, he clearly has chart energy to manifest this - gemini for mercury,

pluto asc in leo - power thirst, control.

and sun square pluto, so his asc ruler is in strong contact with pluto, stron leo-scorpio, sun/pluto square energy.

as for other signs,

i agree with virgo, for Mercury (thinking and judging) but this is more pronounced, as Earth is much more of a judging energy. for complexness, virgo is more reletive to that kind fo thing (details) than gemini imo.

i think don't think Air and Earth are the main culprits alone. i strongly feel its Fire energy that seeks control and Doing things, iniation.

earth on how, strategy, introvert, i liken to an analogy i once used to describe myself - a volcano, deep fire inside, earth shell. reserved fire.

Air is thinking, ideas.

i think water is important aswell, Water knows how t odo things underhanded.

pluto i nparticular, desires control similarly to fire (scorpio, ruled by pluto, is afterall the traditional sign ruled by mars - aries.)

i think earth and air are the ideas/judging, control area.

i think Fire is the desire to be in control and Do, acheive. Think of Fire signs in general - Aries strives to BE someone, much like capricorn.

i think intj's uusally lack water, but shouldnt be surprised to find some pluto in there for control.

i think the big players are Fire and Earth. the msot important element in an INTJ is Earth energy, i beleive that is criteria-must have.

Air somewhat but not necessarily by signs, i think more by planets (uranus/mercury)

in my chart, i have alot of Fire.

my ASC is in leo, but it squares pluto.

my Sun is in leo but it trines uranus (air)

my moon is in aries but it squares saturn (earth)

i have alot of earth in my chart - neptune/uranus/saturn in capricorn, Mercury and mars in virgo, thats mercurial earth energy combined. my mars trines saturn.

my mercury is in the 3rd house, along with Venus, venus is in libra (air) (square uranus - air, and square saturn (earth)

and my mars i in the 2nd house. (earth emphasized again).

i think an INTJ personality is one that contains a strong fire placement (moon or sun or asc)

mxied with strong earth aspects by planets or plaents in signs (such as aries sun with mars/venus in taurus for example)

as for clarcie and hannibal, i didn't say that they aren't INTJ's, i just think the reasons to label them INTJ's is speculative, iv seen on youtube for example, a guy thought he was an intj based on one result and he related to it so well, but he ended up taking a more advanced one with the help fo someone who's more well versed into thes tuff and he turned out to be an INTP, close but not quite.

the point is, they were very much like INTJ's, but certainty is out of the question.

posted February 02, 2011 10:17 PM              

Instant assessment/new plan reaction.

Never went past season 3, boring.

That show, like so many others, follow the same story pattern, over and over and ove...

~yawn

posted February 03, 2011 01:54 PM            

It's my first post on the forum. I've been reading it for a while.

I'm also an INFJ.
Some of the descriptions fit me, some don't. But I must say, I like what it says

I vs E: in my behaviour, always more I than E, although I have E-tendencies as well. Tricky thing to explain... In my soul, rather E. In behaviour, rather I.

N vs S: absolutely N, like all good Scorpios

F vs T: that's also an 55-45% kind of thing.

posted February 03, 2011 07:59 PM            

And I'm confused, as I remember reading that INTP is the rarest type. Anyways, here's my other half....

The Thinker

As an INTP, your primary mode of living is focused internally, where you deal with things rationally and logically. Your secondary mode is external, where you take things in primarily via your intuition.

INTPs live in the world of theoretical possibilities. They see everything in terms of how it could be improved, or what it could be turned into. They live primarily inside their own minds, having the ability to analyze difficult problems, identify patterns, and come up with logical explanations. They seek clarity in everything, and are therefore driven to build knowledge. They are the "absent-minded professors", who highly value intelligence and the ability to apply logic to theories to find solutions. They typically are so strongly driven to turn problems into logical explanations, that they live much of their lives within their own heads, and may not place as much importance or value on the external world. Their natural drive to turn theories into concrete understanding may turn into a feeling of personal responsibility to solve theoretical problems, and help society move towards a higher understanding.

INTPs value knowledge above all else. Their minds are constantly working to generate new theories, or to prove or disprove existing theories. They approach problems and theories with enthusiasm and skepticism, ignoring existing rules and opinions and defining their own approach to the resolution. They seek patterns and logical explanations for anything that interests them. They're usually extremely bright, and able to be objectively critical in their analysis. They love new ideas, and become very excited over abstractions and theories. They love to discuss these concepts with others. They may seem "dreamy" and distant to others, because they spend a lot of time inside their minds musing over theories. They hate to work on routine things - they would much prefer to build complex theoretical solutions, and leave the implementation of the system to others. They are intensely interested in theory, and will put forth tremendous amounts of time and energy into finding a solution to a problem with has piqued their interest.

INTPs do not like to lead or control people. They're very tolerant and flexible in most situations, unless one of their firmly held beliefs has been violated or challenged, in which case they may take a very rigid stance. The INTP is likely to be very shy when it comes to meeting new people. On the other hand, the INTP is very self-confident and gregarious around people they know well, or when discussing theories which they fully understand.

The INTP has no understanding or value for decisions made on the basis of personal subjectivity or feelings. They strive constantly to achieve logical conclusions to problems, and don't understand the importance or relevance of applying subjective emotional considerations to decisions. For this reason, INTPs are usually not in-tune with how people are feeling, and are not naturally well-equiped to meet the emotional needs of others.

The INTP may have a problem with self-aggrandizement and social rebellion, which will interfere with their creative potential. Since their Feeling side is their least developed trait, the INTP may have difficulty giving the warmth and support that is sometimes necessary in intimate relationships. If the INTP doesn't realize the value of attending to other people's feelings, he or she may become overly critical and sarcastic with others. If the INTP is not able to find a place for themself which supports the use of their strongest abilities, they may become generally negative and cynical. If the INTP has not developed their Sensing side sufficiently, they may become unaware of their environment, and exhibit weakness in performing maintenance-type tasks, such as bill-paying and dressing appropriately.

For the INTP, it is extremely important that ideas and facts are expressed correctly and succinctly. They are likely to express themselves in what they believe to be absolute truths. Sometimes, their well thought-out understanding of an idea is not easily understandable by others, but the INTP is not naturally likely to tailor the truth so as to explain it in an understandable way to others. The INTP may be prone to abandoning a project once they have figured it out, moving on to the next thing. It's important that the INTP place importance on expressing their developed theories in understandable ways. In the end, an amazing discovery means nothing if you are the only person who understands it.

The INTP is usually very independent, unconventional, and original. They are not likely to place much value on traditional goals such as popularity and security. They usually have complex characters, and may tend to be restless and temperamental. They are strongly ingenious, and have unconventional thought patterns which allows them to analyze ideas in new ways. Consequently, a lot of scientific breakthroughs in the world have been made by the INTP.

posted February 03, 2011 08:25 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by joyrjw:
Thank you Glaucus!

You have a real knack for these types of things....astrology, mbti, spiritual matters etc. Jupiter quindecile Neptune and Neptune quindecile Ascendant
but I don't understand quindeciles well enough to put them among my aspects.

I have Moon trine BML(I don't think makes a person more sensitive, maybe psychic though)

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I am very glad that I have helped you.
Thank you for the compliments.

I would say that Moon trine BML could indicate more sensitivity too

BML is actually the lunar apogee which is the most distant point of the Moon's orbit from the Earth.

Therefore, BML has influences like the Moon.
It's like a shadow moon.

It be associated with sensitivity,intuition,emotions,unconcious,women
there is a feminist,nonconformist,independent nature to it

I have Moon trine Sun-true BML conjunction.

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posted February 03, 2011 09:31 PM            

Got ENJF- The Teacher. I do also remember the professor telling me that my score was somewhat balanced- I didn't get very high scores for the E, N, F or J. In fact, they were quite low-from a 1 to 5 range.

posted February 04, 2011 08:28 AM            

ENTJ ________________________________________
ENTJs are bright, energetic, sociable individuals who are keenly interested in other people's ideas, theories and perspectives. They love nothing better than to participate in quality conversation with other people who share similar views to their own, or who have something new to teach the ENTJ. They make stimulating, interesting, and dynamic friends and peers.
The ENTJ thoroughly enjoys lively, intellectual conversations - welcoming such interaction as a learning opportunity for all parties involved. They have a tendency to be direct and challenging when interacting with others, which tends to put people on the defensive. This is in fact exactly what they're after - the ENTJ wants to learn what you know, and understand as many of the nuances of your knowledge as the context of the conversation will allow. They go after this knowledge in a very direct, confrontational manner. With this approach, they will learn not only the facts of the knowledge, but also the background of the individual's stance on that piece of knowledge. How well does the individual understand the topic? How invested is the individual in their stance? This method of "unsettling" people has the effect of livening up conversations and stimulating learning, when the other conversationalists are able to easily withstand the interrogations of the ENTJ. People who are uncomfortable with being challenged, or who are less than confident in the topic being discussed, are likely to be subdued into not expressing themselves with the ENTJ. This is a bit of a shame, since many people have valuable things to offer, but are not always willing to stand on top of a mountain and strongly shout their views to the world.
The ENTJ is likely to seek the company of people who have similar views and interests to their own. They have no patience with people who have very different lifestyles and perspectives from their own. However, as individuals with a great deal of personal power, ENTJs are highly attracted to interacting with other individuals with a powerful presence. They admire such people, although they may not agree with them. ENTJs are likely to form their closer friendships with other iNtuitives - especially Extraverted iNtuitives, such as ENTJs, ENTPs, ENFJs, and ENFPs. The ENTJ will enjoy the other iNtuitives' stimulating company, who share their enthusiasm for ideas and learning.

ENTJ Strengths
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• Genuinely interested in people's ideas and thoughts
• Enthusiastic and energetic
• Take their commitments very seriously
• Fair-minded and interested in doing the Right Thing
• Very good with money
• Extremely direct and straightforward
• Verbally fluent
• Enhance and encourage knowledge and self-growth in all aspects of life
• Able to leave relationships without looking back
• Able to turn conflict situations into positive lessons
• Able to take constructive criticism well
• Extremely high standards and expectations (both a strength and a weakness)
• Usually have strong affections and sentimental streaks
• Able to dole out discipline
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ENTJ Weaknesses
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• Their enthusiasm for verbal debates can make them appear argumentative
• Tendency to be challenging and confrontational
• Tend to get involved in "win-lose" conversations
• Tendency to have difficulty listening to others
• Tendency to be critical of opinions and attitudes which don't match their own
• Extremely high standards and expectations (both a strength and a weakness)
• Not naturally in tune with people's feelings and reactions
• May have difficulty expressing love and affection, sometimes seeming awkward or inappropriate
• Can be overpowering and intimidating to others
• Tendency to want to always be in charge, rather than sharing responsibilities
• Can be very harsh and intolerant about messiness or inefficiency
• Tendency to be controlling
• May be slow to give praise or to realize another's need for praise
• If unhappy or underdeveloped, they may be very impersonal, dictatorial, or abrasive
• Tendency to make hasty decisions
• Make explode with terrible tempers when under extreme stress

posted February 04, 2011 01:06 PM            

HUMANMETRICS

Jung Typology Test

Your Type is

INFJ

Introverted Intuitive Feeling Judging

Qualitative analysis of your type formula
You are:

* very expressed introvert

* distinctively expressed intuitive personality

* moderately expressed feeling personality

* moderately expressed judging personality

Custom Keirsey Temperament Report

Your Keirsey Temperament Sorter Results indicate that your personality type is that of The IdealistTM.

All Idealists share the following core characteristics:

* Idealists are enthusiastic, they trust their intuition, yearn for romance, seek their true self, prize meaningful relationships, and dream of attaining wisdom.

* Idealists pride themselves on being loving, kindhearted, and authentic.

* Idealists tend to be giving, trusting, spiritual, and they are focused on personal journeys and human potentials.

* Idealists make intense mates, nurturing parents, and inspirational leaders.

Idealists as a temperament, are passionately concerned with personal growth and development. Idealists strive to discover who they are and how they can become their best possible self--always this quest for self-knowledge and self-improvement drives their imagination. And they want to help others make the journey. Idealists are naturally drawn to working with people, and whether in education or counseling, in social services or personnel work, in journalism or the ministry, they are gifted at helping others find their way in life, often inspiring them to grow as individuals and to fulfill their potentials.

Idealists are sure that friendly cooperation is the best way for people to achieve their goals. Conflict and confrontation upset them because they seem to put up angry barriers between people. Idealists dream of creating harmonious, even caring personal relations, and they have a unique talent for helping people get along with each other and work together for the good of all. Such interpersonal harmony might be a romantic ideal, but then Idealists are incurable romantics who prefer to focus on what might be, rather than what is. The real, practical world is only a starting place for Idealists; they believe that life is filled with possibilities waiting to be realized, rich with meanings calling out to be understood. This idea of a mystical or spiritual dimension to life, the "not visible" or the "not yet" that can only be known through intuition or by a leap of faith, is far more important to Idealists than the world of material things.

Highly ethical in their actions, Idealists hold themselves to a strict standard of personal integrity. They must be true to themselves and to others, and they can be quite hard on themselves when they are dishonest, or when they are false or insincere. More often, however, Idealists are the very soul of kindness. Particularly in their personal relationships, Idealists are without question filled with love and good will. They believe in giving of themselves to help others; they cherish a few warm, sensitive friendships; they strive for a special rapport with their children; and in marriage they wish to find a "soulmate," someone with whom they can bond emotionally and spiritually, sharing their deepest feelings and their complex inner worlds.

Idealists are relatively rare, making up no more than 15 to 20 percent of the population. But their ability to inspire people with their enthusiasm and their idealism has given them influence far beyond their numbers.

* Mohandas Gandhi (Counselor/Idealist)

* Eleanor Roosevelt (Counselor/Idealist)

*Carl Jung (Counselor/Idealist)

* Siddhartha [Buddha]

*Plato
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* James Earl “Jimmy” Carter (U.S. President)
* Martin Van Buren U.S. President)
* Adam Sandler
* Amelie Poulain
* Anthony Kiedes-Red Hot Chili Peppers Band Member
* Aristophanes
* Billy Crystal
* Bob Dylan (Robert Zimmerman), folk singer
* Calista Flockart
* Carl Jung-Psychiatrist
* Carol Moseley-Braun (U. S. Senator, IL)
* Carrie Fisher
* Charles Xavier, X Men
* Chaucer
* Eleanor Roosevelt (Wife of Franklin D. Roosevelt)
* Evangeline Lilly
* Fanny Crosby, (blind) hymnist
* Fred McMurray (My Three Sons)
* Garry Trudeau (Doonesbury)
* Gary Dourdan
* Goethe
* Hitler-Politician
* James Reston, newspaper reporter
* Jamie Foxx
* Jerry Seinfeld
* John Katz, critic, author
* Lady Gaga
* Leonard Cohen
* Luke Skywalker
* Mahatma Ghandi-Indian Politician, Spiritual Leader
* Marg Helgaberger
* Mark Harmon
* Martin Luther King, Jr., civil rights leader, martyr)
* Martin Van Buren (U.S. President)
* Mel Gibson
* Michael Landon (Little House on the Prairie)
* Mischa Barton-Actress
* Mother Teresa of Calcutta
* Mulan, Disney Princess
* Nathan, prophet of Israel
* Nathaniel Hawthorne
* Nelson Mandela
* Neve Campbell-Actress
* Nicole Kidman
* Oprah Winfrey, talk show host
* Paul Stookey (Peter, Paul and Mary)
* Piers Anthony, author (“Xanth” series)
* Ralph Fiennes-Actor
* River, Firefly Tv Series & Serenity Movie
* Robert Burns, Scottish poet
* Rougue, X Men
* Russell Brand-Actor/Comedian
* Sela Ward
* Shirley MacLaine (Sweet Charity, …)
* Shirley Temple Black, child actor, ambassador
* Talisa Soto-Actress
* The Tin Man
* Tom Selleck
* Tori May
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"Generations to come will scarce believe that such a one as this ever in flesh and blood walked upon this earth."

This is how Albert Einstein eulogized one of the most inspiring and influential men of the twentieth century, Mohandas Gandhi. Not only did Gandhi almost single-handedly free India and its five hundred million people from their long subjection to the British Empire, but he did so without raising an army, without firing a gun or taking a hostage, and without ever holding a political office. How could one slight, soft-spoken man accomplish such a remarkable feat? The answer lies in the overpowering force of his character.

Like George Washington one hundred and fifty years before him, Gandhi knew he could never defeat British colonial power in armed confrontation, but, at the same time, he had no interest in waging a Washington-style logistical war that would outlast the British forces, wearing them down to the point of relinquishing power. To be sure, it was not in Gandhi's nature to contemplate military resistance in any form. Gandhi's interests and talents lay in the area of personal diplomacy, or the skillful handling of people, and he instinctively sought to oppose the British Raj on humane, moral, even spiritual grounds. Gandhi believed that an entrenched political and economic system could only be revolutionized by spiritual ideas, and so, over a period of years, he developed and implemented his own NF style of civil disobedience, what he called "satyagraha," a nobly principled, highly disciplined, courageously ethical strategy of non-violent passive resistance. Simply and effectively, Gandhi brought the British to their knees with a moral power that author and Gandhi disciple William Shirer referred to as "soul force."

Gandhi's immediate objective was political freedom for India, and yet, for all his social activism, he never lost sight of a higher goal for himself and his people, the quest for divine truth and justice, for human dignity and integrity, for the true knowledge of God. Perhaps drawing on the ideas of Platonic Idealism, Gandhi wrote:

All that appears and happens about and around us is uncertain, transient. But there is a Supreme Being hidden therein as a Certainty, and one would be blessed if one could catch a glimpse of that Certainty and hitch one's wagon to it. The quest for that Truth is the summum bonum of life. [Gandhi, An Autobiography, p 250.]

Rare indeed is the man or woman with such confidence in a Certainty beyond earthly certainty, in a Truth behind the worldly illusion of truth. Ideal truth, ideal human integrity, ideal justice, not to mention ideal relationships and ideal moral virtue: so ardently devoted are the Gandhi's of this world to their various ideals that we need not hesitate to call them the Idealists. Plato, remember, thought of them as taking the Philosophic role in society, Galen named them the Choleric or Enthusiastic temperament, and Isabel Myers touched on many of these same characteristics when she described the NF or Emotional types as creative, enthusiastic, humane, imaginative, insightful, religious, subjective, and sympathetic.

posted February 04, 2011 02:47 PM            

Since 2005, I don't have a high opinion of Mahondas Gandhi. There is no way that I would refer to him as Mahatma (Great Soul)

Why do India's Dalits hate Gandhi?
By Thomas C. Mountain
Online Journal Contributing Writer

In India, supposedly the world's largest democracy, the leadership of the rapidly growing Dalit movement have nothing good to say about Mohandas K. Gandhi. To be honest, Gandhi is actually one of the most hated Indian leaders in the hierarchy of those considered enemies of India's Dalits or "untouchables" by the leadership of India's Dalits.

Many have questioned how could I dare say such a thing? In reply I urge people outside of India to try and keep in mind my role as the messenger in this matter. I am the publisher of the Ambedkar Journal, founded in 1996, which was the first publication on the Internet to address the Dalit question from the Dalits' viewpoint. My co-editor is M. Gopinath, who includes in his c.v. being managing editor of the Dalit Voice newspaper and then going on to found Times of Bahujan, national newspaper of the Bahujan Samaj Party, India's Dalit party and India's youngest and third largest national. The founding president of the Ambedkar Journal was Dr. Velu Annamalai, the first Dalit in history to achieve a Ph.d in Engineering. My work with the Dalit movement in India started in 1991 and I have been serving as one of the messengers to those outside of India from the Dalit leaders who are in the very rapid process of organizing India's Dalits into a national movement. The Dalit leadership I work with received many tens of millions of votes in the last national election in India.

With that out of the way, lets get back to the 850 million-person question, why do Dalits hate M.K. Gandhi?

To start, Gandhi was a so-called "high caste". High castes represent at small minority in India, some 10-15 percent of the population, yet dominate Indian society in much the same way whites ruled South Africa during the official period of Apartheid. Dalits often use the phrase Apartheid in India when speaking about their problems.

The Indian Constitution was authored by Gandhi's main critic and political opponent, Dr. Ambedkar, for whom our journal is named and the first Dalit in history to receive an education (if you have never heard of Dr. Ambedkar I would urge you to try and keep an open mind about what I am saying for it is a bit like me talking to you about the founding of the USA when you have never heard of Thomas Jefferson).

Most readers are familiar with Gandhi's great hunger strike against the so called Poona Pact in 1933. The matter which Gandhi was protesting, nearly unto death at that, was the inclusion in the draft Indian Constitution, proposed by the British, that reserved the right of Dalits to elect their own leaders. Dr. Ambedkar, with his degree in law from Cambridge, had been chosen by the British to write the new constitution for India. Having spent his life overcoming caste-based discrimination, Dr. Ambedkar had come to the conclusion that the only way Dalits could improve their lives is if they had the exclusive right to vote for their leaders, that a portion or reserved section of all elected positions were only for Dalits and only Dalits could vote for these reserved positions.

Gandhi was determined to prevent this and went on hunger strike to change this article in the draft constitution. After many communal riots, where tens of thousands of Dalits were slaughtered, and with a leap in such violence predicted if Gandhi died, Dr. Ambedkar agreed, with Gandhi on his death bed, to give up the Dalits right to exclusively elect their own leaders and Gandhi ended his hunger strike.

Later, on his own death bed, Dr. Ambedkar would say this was the biggest mistake in his life, that if he had to do it all over again, he would refuse to give up Dalit only representation, even if it meant Gandhi's death.

As history has shown, life for the overwhelming majority of Dalits in India has changed little since the arrival of Indian independence over 50 years ago. The laws written into the Indian Constitution by Dr. Ambedkar, many patterned after the laws introduced into the former Confederate or slave states in the USA during reconstruction after the Civil War to protect the freed black Americans, have never been enforced by the high caste dominated Indian court system and legislatures. A tiny fraction of the "quotas" or reservations for Dalits in education and government jobs have been filled. Dalits are still discriminated against in all aspect of life in India's 650,000 villages, despite laws specifically outlawing such acts. Dalits are the victims of economic embargos, denial of basic human rights such as access to drinking water, use of public facilities and education and even entry to Hindu temples.

To this day, most Indians still believe, and this includes a majority of Dalits, that Dalits are being punished by God for sins in a previous life. Under the religious codes of Hinduism, a Dalit's only hope is to be a good servant of the high castes and upon death and rebirth they will be reincarnated in a high caste. This is called varna in Sanskrit, the language of the original Aryans who imposed Hinduism on India beginning some 3,500 years ago. Interestingly, the word "varna" translates literally into the word "color" from Sanskrit.

This is one of the golden rules of Dalit liberation, that varna means color, and that Hinduism is a form of racially based oppression and as such is the equivalent of Apartheid in India. Dalits feel that if they had the right to elect their own leaders they would have been able to start challenging the domination of the high castes in Indian society and would have begun the long walk to freedom so to speak. They blame Gandhi and his hunger strike for preventing this.

So there it is, in as few words as possible, why in today's India the leaders of India's Dalits hate M.K. Gandhi.

This is, of course, an oversimplification. India's social problems remain the most pressing in the world and a few paragraphs are not going to really explain matters to anyone's satisfaction. The word Dalit and the movement of a crushed and broken people, the "untouchables" of India, are just beginning to become known to most of the people concerned about human rights in the world. As Dalits organize themselves and begin to challenge caste-based rule in India, it behooves all people of good conscience to start to find out what the Dalits and their leadership are fighting for. A good place to start is with M.K. Gandhi and why he is so hated by Dalits in India.

Thomas C. Mountain is the publisher of the Ambedkar Journal on India's Dalits, founded in 1996. His writing has been featured in Dalit publications across India, including the Dalit Voice and the Times of Bahujan as well as on the front pages of the mainstream, high caste owned, Indian press. He would recommend viewing of the film "Bandit Queen" as the best example of life for women and Dalits in India's villages, which is the story of the life of the late, brutally murdered, Phoolan Devi, of whose international defense committee Thomas C. Mountain was a founding member. He can be reached at tmountain@hawaii.rr.com.

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I was reading about how Mahondas Gandhi thought about black people. He referred to Black South Africans as "Kaffirs" which is a racial slur. His liberation movement was based on not wanting Indians to be treated like Blacks in South Africa. He thought blacks were one degree removed from animals and no better than the Untouchables.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeJQ1QXT2Lc&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRV8PYDIa8I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQO1uNhw_1s&feature=related

GANDHI & RACISM http://www.trinicenter.com/WorldNews/ghandi4.htm

Gandhi and the Black Untouchables http://www.trinicenter.com/WorldNews/ghandi5.htm

When I think of Mahondas Gandhi, I think of George Washington and the other founding fathers who fought for independence for only the the White Americans and not for all Americans.

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A different mind is NOT a deficient mind.

posted February 04, 2011 08:11 PM              

INTJ

Ensign Ro (Star Trek: The Next Generation) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hggMCayCmR4

Interesting, The scene opens with her talking to a scorpio, (whoopi goldberg)

I admire Picard, in the tv series.

posted February 05, 2011 04:44 AM              

Some people notice these patterns.

That is one way to "type" people.

I personally see too many similarities to just "ignore" that. Some things are exacting.

-I am INTJ, the above is my opinion only.

Honestly, I am -not- sounding vague to be "cute"

Story characters, At least the ones that are written well, follow the same patterns as real people. That is how the reader "connects" with the characters.

Then it takes a talented actor to pull that off.

I do believe hollywood type casts by astrology, or is at least a consideration. It is better to start with people that would be better able to "naturally" act the material.

Example: Nicolas Cage movies = Uranus/Aquarius energy.

posted February 05, 2011 05:00 AM            

I agree with Casting agents choosing those who wouldnt have to act so much as portray themselves in a different light.

posted February 05, 2011 05:09 AM              

Never "limit" your mind. I despise limits.

Anyway, Yes, Use any and all resources, continue adding more and more. Then simplify.

Like peeling an onion.

"Yea I guess you'd have to study it for a few years."

13 years now I think. I do not remember or care.

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Ro "Nothing made sense anymore, I decided to wait until I could figure out what was going on."

Picard: "That was a --"Wise"-- choice ensign, it probably saved you from --"Another"-- court marshal.

posted February 05, 2011 09:00 AM              

The first couple of minutes are why we are misunderstood.

Note: Will Riker is a Leo ( in real life, Just like whoopi is a scorpio in real life)

I have seen that leo energy many times, And I have bucked the **** out of it a few times myself.

I do not like restriction, But I will get along because I know how to.

posted February 07, 2011 12:48 AM              

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H85hdn9a6KM

posted March 26, 2011 10:49 AM              

# I – Introversion preferred to extraversion: INTJs tend to be quiet and reserved. They generally prefer interacting with a few close friends rather than a wide circle of acquaintances, and they expend energy in social situations (whereas extraverts gain energy).

# N – Intuition preferred to sensing: INTJs tend to be more abstract than concrete. They focus their attention on the big picture rather than the details and on future possibilities rather than immediate realities.

# T – Thinking preferred to feeling: INTJs tend to value objective criteria above personal preference. When making decisions they generally give more weight to logic than to social considerations.

# J – Judgment preferred to perception: INTJs tend to plan their activities and make decisions early. They derive a sense of control through predictability, which to perceptive types may seem limiting.

Dominant: Introverted intuition (Ni)
Attracted to symbolic actions or devices, Ni synthesizes seeming paradoxes to create the previously unimagined. These realizations come with a certainty that demands action to fulfill a new vision of the future, solutions that may include complex systems or universal truths.

Auxiliary: Extraverted thinking (Te)
Te organizes and schedules ideas and the environment to ensure the efficient, productive pursuit of objectives. Te seeks logical explanations for actions, events, and conclusions, looking for faulty reasoning and lapses in sequence.

Tertiary: Introverted feeling (Fi)
Fi filters information based on interpretations of worth, forming judgments according to criteria that are often intangible. Fi constantly balances an internal set of values such as harmony and authenticity. Attuned to subtle distinctions, Fi innately senses what is true and what is false in a situation.

Inferior: Extraverted sensing (Se)
Se focuses on the experiences and sensations of the immediate, physical world. With an acute awareness of the present surroundings, it brings relevant facts and details to the forefront and may lead to spontaneous action.

*Shadow functions*

Later personality researchers (notably Linda V. Berens) added four additional functions to the descending hierarchy, the so-called "shadow" functions to which the individual is not naturally inclined but which can emerge when the person is under stress. For INTJ these shadow functions are (in order):

Extraverted intuition (Ne)
Ne finds and interprets hidden meanings, using “what if” questions to explore alternatives and allowing multiple possibilities to coexist. This imaginative play weaves together insights and experiences from various sources to form a new whole, which can then become a catalyst to action.

Introverted thinking (Ti)
Ti seeks precision, such as the exact word to express an idea. It notices the minute distinctions that define the essence of things, then analyzes and classifies them. Ti examines all sides of an issue, looking to solve problems while minimizing effort and risk. It uses models to root out logical inconsistency.

Extraverted feeling (Fe)
Fe seeks social connections and creates harmonious interactions through polite, considerate, and appropriate behavior. Fe responds to the explicit (and implicit) wants of others, and may even create an internal conflict between the subject’s own needs and the desire to meet the needs of others.