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Topic: do you find that Water and Air sign women are the prettiest, while Fire and Earth men are the manliest/most handsome?
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SmilingHeart Knowflake Posts: 1069 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 24, 2011 05:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by VenusDiSirius: Yes I am in love with Prague Boys,otoh,don't like when they have to compete with that fact  Beauty is of mathtematics core The objective part of it; everything that comes via our senses,is subjective,but it doesn't mean our perceptions should be as idle  Gravity is objective...because it affects us all,and we can't do anything about it??? And beauty doesn't??? No matter what culture,one's brain will react to certain signs; women with fuller lips,eyes set wider,ligher in complexion,will be seen(by organism) as attractive,eligible=healthy! If it's consequence that we like full lips,where is the cause??? It's not subjectivity,it's lack of knowledge!
Yeah, Prague is really wonderful! But, I can't really agree with the rest of your post. Gravity is NOT subjective. Also the things you listed are preferences. A light complexion and wide set eyes are not necessarily a sign of good health. Symmetry is supposed to be the only thing of real impact, and still a lot of people actually prefer slightly asymmetrical faces. Some are into full lips, others prefer smaller ones. I'm a mixed girl in a white country and guys still think I'm pretty. But according to you that shouldn't be the case because everybody around me is lighter so I must be the most unattractive person in this area then? I think you shouldn't mistake your own preference with universal truth/objectivity. It is not. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6614 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted March 24, 2011 06:10 PM
I am not saying it;science is! Which doesn't mean that darker people r unattractive. It is inherent comprehension of ligher=good and dark=bad,security/danger etc...What I am saying is that beauty exists outside one's perception,that it isn't dependable on one's opinion.E.g full lips=sign of fertility. It's Beauty. R u from usa?? If u can,u should come to prague now,during spring time= pure awesomeness  IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 8223 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 24, 2011 06:20 PM
I suppose if you prefer less feminine and more ballsy women than that is your preference, but just because you prefer them doesn't make them more feminine. My friend is a female capricorn, and since she appears tough as nails on the outside, she likes a guy who is sweet and cuddly. As a result, she is often attracted to libra and cancer guys. She told me this herself, from her own mouth "I like a feminine guy." I see nothing wrong in bringing astrology back to the basics. Most of my planets are in the 9th house and my mercury is conjunct jupiter, plus sagittarius rules over my 3rd house and I lile to focus on the big picture and ignore the little details. You should realize that looking at the big picture is also just as beautiful as seeing all the little details. I can't believe anyone would say that the personality traits of pisces, libra, and cancer are not typically feminine. Each culture has a standard of ultra femininity. If you live in this culture that we have here in the U.S. Of A, you should know what that standard is. Now, I've heard it said that someone with a masculine sign in the sun sign and a feminine sign in the moon sign is more attractive than someone who doesn't have that, so if someone can claim that this makes someone more attractive, does it make me superficial to assume that a girly girl and a manly man are more attractive? IP: Logged |
SmilingHeart Knowflake Posts: 1069 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 24, 2011 06:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by VenusDiSirius: I am not saying it;science is! Which doesn't mean that darker people r unattractive. It is inherent comprehension of ligher=good and dark=bad,security/danger etc...What I am saying is that beauty exists outside one's perception,that it isn't dependable on one's opinion.E.g full lips=sign of fertility. It's Beauty. R u from usa?? If u can,u should come to prague now,during spring time= pure awesomeness 
I am talking to my friend on the phone right now. She is a biology major and told me that this is wrong. So I call ******** on that. I've read pseudo-scientific claims that there are infact inferior races (and yes this is what it means in the end when you conclude that darker skin is 'bad'). I think you're mixing scientific and sociological factors right now. Fair skin used to be a sign of wealth back in the days when the rich stayed at home and painted their faces white with lime and the poor people had to work in the fields. That is not science though. Please don't mix this up. Actually the skin tone of people is ALWAYS perfect for the area they live in. Lighter skin takes more Vitamine D from the sun in colder and less sunny areas while being in danger of skin cancer in hot/sunny areas. Darker skin is more resitent to the sun and thus in advantage in this part of the world. I know my science, honey. So please don't try to make me believe things that aren't true. IP: Logged |
blugrey Knowflake Posts: 1006 From: Nowhere Registered: Nov 2010
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posted March 24, 2011 06:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: I suppose if you prefer less feminine and more ballsy women than that is your preference, but just because you prefer them doesn't make them more feminine. My friend is a female capricorn, and since she appears tough as nails on the outside, she likes a guy who is sweet and cuddly. As a result, she is often attracted to libra and cancer guys. She told me this herself, from her own mouth "I like a feminine guy." I see nothing wrong in bringing astrology back to the basics. Most of my planets are in the 9th house and my mercury is conjunct jupiter, plus sagittarius rules over my 3rd house and I lile to focus on the big picture and ignore the little details. You should realize that looking at the big picture is also just as beautiful as seeing all the little details. I can't believe anyone would say that the personality traits of pisces, libra, and cancer are not typically feminine. Each culture has a standard of ultra femininity. If you live in this culture that we have here in the U.S. Of A, you should know what that standard is. Now, I've heard it said that someone with a masculine sign in the sun sign and a feminine sign in the moon sign is more attractive than someone who doesn't have that, so if someone can claim that this makes someone more attractive, does it make me superficial to assume that a girly girl and a manly man are more attractive?
I have a stellium in the 9th house and a Sag moon.. still don't agree with you. I guess details DO matter.
Anyway, what does it matter if a woman is feminine or not or a man masculine or not? The most "feminine" man I was ever with was a Scorpio and the manliest was a Cancer. Both are water signs What's your point? If you want to get on your soapbox fine, but it doesn't mean you are right.
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Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 3377 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 24, 2011 07:00 PM
quote: The personality traits of pisces, libra, and cancer are not typically feminine. Each culture has a standard of ultra femininity.
I see what you are getting at. I agree that... the following: Taurus influence (feminine sign ruled by feminine planet-Venus) Cancer influence (feminine sign ruled by feminine-planet Moon) - Are in some ways the epitome of femininity.. The same does not apply to Libra - which is a masculine air sign.. and all of the traits you listed as masculine such as confidence, being assertive etc -- are traits I associate with Libra. (Our first female Prime Minister is a Libra for goodness sake! lol I'm in Aussie Land). It also doesn't apply to Pisces because Pisces is ruled by masculine planet Neptune -- generally seen as sexually unreliable (It is not a typically feminine trait to "sleep around" or "flirt around" or have 7-8 marriages). But I just want to mention again that -- while I personally LIKE femininity and find it beautiful -- many people are unnerved by it. Many men are also unnerved by it. In today's world men are becoming more and more passive -- and they almost expect the woman to do most of the work. A great majority of these men are very attracted to assertive, seemingly masculine women. So femininity is no longer seen as the epitome of perfection - as it was years ago, before anyone had heard of the word "feminism". IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 8223 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 24, 2011 07:14 PM
Well blugrey, you don't have to be rude about it. I'll stand on my detergent box ....if that's what I want to do, okay?  IP: Logged |
SpooL Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Toronto/Ottawa,Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 24, 2011 07:17 PM
I'd generally agree for Pisces and Cancer.But, The "Pretty" Pisces I know have a lot of Aquarian influences in there chart. The same be it for the Cancers they have a lot of Leo in there chart somewhere. case in point: I had to work on a school project with a Pisces Sun with Mercury, Venus in Aquarious, Mars in Gemini. She was an Art History Majour, most likely that is because of the pisces influence. But she could think and act as an Aquarious. All the "elegance" whould be the pisces influence and the "thinking" whould be the Aquarious in her. Oh, to top it off she was french-Canadian. I'm a guy by the way. ---------------------------------------- Capircorn Rising Gemini Sun, 5th House Aries Moon Mercury in Gemini Venus In Taurus IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 8223 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 24, 2011 07:18 PM
So you guys don't agree that cap and aries meb are the alpha men of the zodiac, then.Go to google and type in aries men manly or capricorn men only and see what women are saying about these two. ... >.> IP: Logged |
SpooL Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Toronto/Ottawa,Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 24, 2011 07:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: So you guys don't agree that cap and aries meb are the alpha men of the zodiac, then.Go to google and type in aries men manly or capricorn men only and see what women are saying about these two. ... >.>
I have no disagrement with that, Aries males are known to portray themselves as "Macho" Capircorn males its all about status ---------------------------------------- Capircorn Rising Gemini Sun, 5th House Aries Moon Mercury in Gemini Venus In Taurus IP: Logged |
Cat Face Knowflake Posts: 176 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted March 24, 2011 07:30 PM
No. Hot men are all over the freakin' Zodiac. lolIP: Logged |
JohnFKennedy Knowflake Posts: 587 From: US Registered: Aug 2009
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posted March 24, 2011 07:32 PM
The biggest "man's man" I've ever met was a Capricorn sun/Cancer moon/Sagittarius mars/Aquarius Venus. Nice blend of all the elements right there. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 3377 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 24, 2011 07:33 PM
quote: Hot men are all over the freakin' Zodiac.
LOL I say - give me one of each! Polygamist Bliss! IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 2405 From: Portland, OR Registered: May 2009
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posted March 24, 2011 08:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by SpooL: I have no disagrement with that, Aries males are known to portray themselves as "Macho"Capircorn males its all about status
Oh c'mon I know several gay men that are Aries and Capricorn Suns that are not what you'd call macho, basing things solely on Sun signs is very limiting. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 3377 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 24, 2011 09:06 PM
quote: I know several gay men that are Aries and Capricorn Suns that are not what you'd call macho
Ditto for gay Aries men! My Aries friend is a hairdresser and he is soooooo girly - OMG. I see him walking his dog sometimes - and he does this strut with his bum sticking out which is hilarious. He is girly-er than I am. IP: Logged |
amowls** Knowflake Posts: 1948 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 24, 2011 09:32 PM
quote: I see nothing wrong in bringing astrology back to the basics. Most of my planets are in the 9th house and my mercury is conjunct jupiter, plus sagittarius rules over my 3rd house and I lile to focus on the big picture and ignore the little details.You should realize that looking at the big picture is also just as beautiful as seeing all the little details.
I'm a big picture person as well (9th house chart ruler and Sun [also the ruler of my 3rd] and a Sag Stellium, and I'm saying that the Sun isn't "the big picture." You can be a certain Sun Sign but that sign isn't necessarily the strongest in your chart. For me, Sag is strongest in my chart, but I'm an Aquarius Sun. IP: Logged |
amowls** Knowflake Posts: 1948 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 24, 2011 09:33 PM
quote: femininity to me is the typical pisces, cancer, libra traits of being helpless, romantic sentimental, indecisive, etc.
Unfortunately, Libra is a masculine sign so there goes that. IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 2791 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009
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posted March 24, 2011 09:38 PM
No, not really. I've seen more watermen that put on the bravado of being masculine than any other influence. That could be a defense mechanism due to upbringing or their ascendants at play. There are also good looking women from every sign, but I'm not entirely sure who I find the prettiest in terms of females....actually, I am pretty biased to waterwomen. Anyways, this question and thread are waaay too subjective.
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amowls** Knowflake Posts: 1948 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 24, 2011 09:43 PM
The biggest "tough guy" I know is a Libra. He has hand tattoos.(putting that out there) IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 2791 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009
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posted March 24, 2011 09:54 PM
And I'm also half-tomboy/half-girly... and a Cancer Sun. I'm I the 8th wonder of the world, or do I have a very masculine mars and dual venus? Helplessness in other women is like nails-to-a-chalkboard to me....and it has nothing to do with femininity IMO. Competence is 1000X times better. IP: Logged |
amowls** Knowflake Posts: 1948 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 24, 2011 10:21 PM
Helplessness in women is a privilege for the upper class. I'm sure even before the feminist movement, poor women were providing for their families, caring for their family members and being the opposite of helpless.IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9947 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 24, 2011 10:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by blugrey: Fire and Water are the opposites of Earth and Air. Fire and Water are more similar in that they both are expressive of emotions, no at ALL detached (though SCorpios like to think that), and passionate and they follow their hearts. Earth and Air hold their emotions in, can detach themselves from their emotions and make decisions rationally(though this comes with maturity), and are very compassionate, but they are more private and within their own heads. I think that every has both masculine and feminine in them.
Very much agree. Earth and Air are head-ruled, Fire and Water are heart-ruled. Air is opposed to Water, thought and feeling, Fire is opposed to Earth, action and planning, this is in psychological terms, MBTI stuff. Reference Liz Greene's Astrology for Lovers for more info. IP: Logged |
Scorpionic_Web Knowflake Posts: 55 From: Registered: Feb 2011
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posted March 24, 2011 11:27 PM
I believe I'm bringing some context to what Amowls said... Around here, in Richmond, Virginia, it's proper etiquette to get a full sleeve before one gets hand tattoos. Thus, making one a bad ass. To have hand tattoos before a full sleeve in Richmond is essentially putting the cart before the horse, and people will look at you as if you are a pretentious idiot. I find this whole tattoo phenomenon all too ridiculous. And certainly for women. Tattoos on women are repulsive at best. It's an insult to femininity. I've happily lost my attraction to 3/4's of the Richmond female population based on these immature attempts at individualization. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 3377 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 25, 2011 12:04 AM
I had a thought..Every element has positive traits - and if you look up these traits, it would be difficult to find a person who is not attracted to them. Find me a man who doesn't desire to have an intelligent and flirty girlfriend (air) or a sexually experimental and inspiring girlfriend (fire) or a loving and understanding girlfriend (water) or an affectionate and trustworthy girlfriend (earth). The same goes for women. When we are at our best - we are all attractive..  IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 8223 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 25, 2011 12:16 AM
Aw, I didn't realize this thread probably makes a lot of people out there self-conscious. It wasn't my intention. :/Just something I noticed, but everyone has their own opinion. I'll always think of piscean and gemini women as feminine and cute . And fire women as active, ballsy, and fun fun fun. Not necessarily masculine (they're def girly) just not passive at all. But yeah, again. I enjoy seeing them this way. I do think there is validity in sun signs. But to each their own. And to their own....each? Lol. Toodles! See you at the next havoc-wreaking thread about sun sign generalizations! Buhuhuhaha ...With An Insanely Long Title 
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