posted December 16, 2013 04:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Ibringyouasong:
Hmmmm...my true dream as an aspiring novelist (who works part time in retail with an English degree) is to become a very well known author.

My Sun, Moon, Mercury, and Jupiter are all in the 1st house and are in Gemini. So there's a stellium which I suppose means I am supposed to be a writer (?).

My Venus is in Gemini and in the second house. It bi quintiles my MC - which is Aquarius in the 10th house.

My North Node is in the 10th House. Also Aquarius.

My Sun and Moon both conjunct Jupiter.

I read something about the Sun having inconjunctions which could indicate fame? My sun is inconjunction with Pluto, Neptune, and Saturn. Is that good?

My Mercury conjuncts my Ascendant and both are Taurus. Taurus is the other half of the sign of Venus - which is in my second house. So I guess that would be good?

In my natal chart, my second house is Gemini. I know originally the second house ruler is Taurus - so I guess that's a good thing as well?

I also read something about Capricorn? It must be a generational thing because I know a lot of people - like myself - who have Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune in Capricorn in the 8th house. I know the 8th has a lot of negativity associated with it - being the house of death and all. But in a chart I had done based on my career, it said a lot about being good with finances. Whether that's true or not, I have no idea.

Oh sorry. My Mercury trines my Midheaven. Knew I forgot something.

My Uranus semi sextiles my Midheaven. Which Harrison Ford has, oddly enough.

Both my Moon and Jupiter sesqui quadrate my Midheaven though. I know Julia Roberts has that - the Jupiter aspect at least. I also know that sesqui quadrates are supposedly ruled as "squares," or semi-squares. But let's face it, not everybody's chart is perfect. And at least having a connection is better than nothing at all.

I also have Pallas Athena in the 11th House and it's in Aries.

I also have my Aquarius Midheaven trining my Taurus Ascendant. What does that mean?

My Fortune is in Taurus - although an Arabic calculator would disagree and say it's in Gemini. It's strange though because if it's in Taurus, it says the 12th house - but Taurus is my Ascendant, so wouldn't it be in the first? Or even second if you're going to go by the usual Zodiac wheel?

According the Arabic calculator, it's in Gemini and is 3 degrees and 44 minutes. I don't know how to calculate a house from that, though.

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posted December 16, 2013 06:27 AM            

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Originally posted by rainylady:
I have to throw my 2 cents in, I do charts just for my own research to see if I notice certain trends...i know 5 famous people, of varying levels some moderately some internationally and yet another who just sky rocketed...all of them had sun conjunct mid heaven. Im sure theres many other factors its just interesting to note (I work in a field where I meet a lot people) the few people I do know who are actually famous (not even rich necessarily!) had that, another had moon but wasn't as much as the others.

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posted December 16, 2013 06:56 AM            

I have the Sun, Venus, Vulcan and 4 of the 5 major asteroids in the 2nd House (Chiron, Ceres, Pallas and Vesta) and the Moon and Lilith in the 11th House.

My Ascendant's depositor is the Sun, so I have the 1st ruler in the 2nd House.

I personally think it has to do with the 1st, 10th and 11th Houses for fame. Obviously the MC as well. (in general; non-specific career)

The 1st House is for your self ambition, talents and how you're seen in the world, 10th House is for your drive, status and dedication while the 11th House is the social popularity you get from the connections you make.
If all planets are prominent in these houses, then there is a good chance you will achieve fame, IMO.

posted December 16, 2013 07:48 AM            

Let us not forget that Bieber creature, with Pluto conj Asc.

While both examples are modern, and Pluto being in signs that adore the cult of celebrities and often obsessively - Libra and Scorpio, it would seem that Pluto is the most generationally permeating planet : the repulser, yes, but a great attractor too.

AC-MC aspects are common among people who are working from an early age.

People with tight conjunctions (exact conjunctions, really) are easily distinguishable.

Sun is prominent if the personality is relevant to the profession : e.g charismatic actors (not actresses though, they usually thrive on divine femininity, Moon/Venus in aspects to Saturn, Neptune).

posted January 03, 2014 12:29 AM            

I found this thread that related to my question and wondered what you all thought about transits indicating a time when someone might become famous or indict a growth in popularity. I would guess jupiter transiting the 11th house. Any others?

posted January 13, 2014 03:32 AM              

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Originally posted by theunknown:
Guess everyone wants to be famous huh?

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Only if they're stupid.

I remember hearing a saying once, that people bust their a55es trying to become famous, only to wind up wearing dark sunglasses everywhere once they get to that point, longing for their anonyminity (sp?).

Astrologically the people who decide who they'll make into a "star" go looking for certain things. If you look, there was a disproportionate amount of Pisces Moons in show business in the last several decades. Or at least a prominent or busy Neptune. Neptune gives you the ability to dazzle the masses, and there's a receptivity to Pisces energy that can sometimes border on docility, which probably made them the perfect choice for the people calling the shots in the showbiz industry. They wanted someone that could sway the masses, but be easily controlled by THEM.

posted January 13, 2014 03:50 AM            

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Originally posted by IMoppedtheFloor:
Only if they're stupid.

I remember hearing a saying once, that people bust their a55es trying to become famous, only to wind up wearing dark sunglasses everywhere once they get to that point, longing for their anonyminity (sp?).

Astrologically the people who decide who they'll make into a "star" go looking for certain things. If you look, there was a disproportionate amount of Pisces Moons in show business in the last several decades. Or at least a prominent or busy Neptune. Neptune gives you the ability to dazzle the masses, and there's a receptivity to Pisces energy that can sometimes border on docility, which probably made them the perfect choice for the people calling the shots in the showbiz industry. They wanted someone that could sway the masses, but be easily controlled by THEM.

With the newer generations of celebs, Sag energy is heavily prominent. A lot of them have placements in the sign or stellium there, or probably as a last resort, a heavily aspect Jupiter or Jupiter on an angle. Exactly why this is I don't know - the two guesses I do have revolve entirely around the Galactic Center and the fact that a lot of the 80s babies (who are adults now with a lot of purchasing power) have Neptune in Sag, so if you trigger our Sag...we'll hemorrhage money? Which of course, leads back to what I was saying earlier about NEPTUNE figuring prominently in this.

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You are just talking about show business. I think we are talking about fame and fortune in general. I don't think famous doctors or professors or politicians are all neptunian. Politicians tend to be heavy saturn, so are people who have to do serious research.

Pluto for example is very important for investigative reporters - not fictional writers but reporters. And reporters can be pretty famous and rich as well.

posted January 13, 2014 04:23 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
One thing is for certain: it is rare to find a famous person whose sun is afflicted by a malific planet. Most famous people don not have an afflicted sun...if they do, it most likely is not with a malific planet.

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Do you honestly think no famous person has a harsh aspect between the Sun and Mars or Pluto? You could probably go to Astrotheme and find tons of them who do.

posted January 13, 2014 05:06 PM            

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Originally posted by page one:
Do you honestly think no famous person has a harsh aspect between the Sun and Mars or Pluto? You could probably go to Astrotheme and find tons of them who do.

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posted January 13, 2014 05:19 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
I have done the research actually. I'm mostly talking about sun poorly aspecting Saturn. Yes, you do see the afflictions to mars and sometimes Pluto, but those are secondary malifics. Primary malific planet is Saturn and in this case I'm talking about the squares.

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If anything, you'd see more examples with Sun/Saturn afflictions. Those people are driven.

posted January 13, 2014 05:46 PM            

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Originally posted by page one:
If anything, you'd see more examples with Sun/Saturn afflictions. Those people are driven.

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In theory one might think so, however of the countless modern-day celebs and famous people I can count only a handful with a sun square Saturn affliction..it is actually pretty rare:

1. Oprah
2. Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge
3. Barbara Walters
5. Jane Fonda
6. Sharon Stone

posted January 13, 2014 06:31 PM            

Harry Belafonte
Salvador Dali
George Harrison
Marilyn Manson
Virginia Woolf
Ben Stiller
Karl Rove (ha!)
Hugo Chavez