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IMoppedtheFloor
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posted January 13, 2014 06:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
You are just talking about show business. I think we are talking about fame and fortune in general. I don't think famous doctors or professors or politicians are all neptunian. Politicians tend to be heavy saturn, so are people who have to do serious research.

Pluto for example is very important for investigative reporters - not fictional writers but reporters. And reporters can be pretty famous and rich as well.

I do think that everybody wants to at least make enough to enjoy pleasurable life and be relatively successful and well-regarded in their profession. The level of fame each person wants is different.


I was absolutely talking about show business. Most people when they say they want to be famous, don't want to be a successful doctor, they want to be a singer or an actress and that's what I was speaking on.

And reporters getting famous is extremely rare and the ones that do usually spend a lot of time interviewing...celebrities (Barbara Walters, anyone?) so I feel it's safe to say that most people who go into journalism out of genuine love for it don't want and expect to become a rich celebrity out of it. When I was a kid I wanted to hop in airplanes and go report on international events and stuff. The last thing I was thinking about was being on the cover of a magazine. I was thinking about adventure, man.

When I wanted to be a doctor I wanted to cure diseases. No, I wasn't short-stroking myself over the thought of the world praising me for it, and that's not why most people go into medicine and you know it.

Politicians, yeah, I can agree with you that a certain amount of fame is usually a motivating factor for them, but I never wanted to be a politician, so.....

Incidentally what's true for politicians is true for professors also and if you don't believe me, have the balls to not pay attention to a professor. They'll throw a tantrum pretty fast about it, I really believe most professors wanted to go into showbusiness or something but ultimately settled on teaching, they go crazy if they don't get a certain amount of adoration. Think about it, you have to be a bit of an attention-wh*re to want to stand up in front of hundreds of students and expect them all to hang on your every word.

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posted January 13, 2014 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IMopped,

my point is that say you are a doctor, you want to do your job well but at the same time would you want to be recognized as a leading doctor in your field? I would!

Most professors are interested in being the thinkers of the century before they go into Phd programs. They want to be the next Noam Chomsky or something. It's not the kind of fame as actors. It's recognition and honors for your ability to contribute to the world. And I see nothing wrong with that. You gotta have that drive or else why should you keep researching? Even if you don't think of yourself as *the thinker of the century, you want to feel like what you contribute is unique and important.


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posted January 13, 2014 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun conjunct MC is classic

Unaspected Sun is another one

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posted January 14, 2014 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by page one:
Others:

Harry Belafonte
Salvador Dali
George Harrison
Marilyn Manson
Virginia Woolf
Ben Stiller
Karl Rove (ha!)
Hugo Chavez


Interesting..thank you for contributing these..

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posted July 30, 2014 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyes_like_pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump

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Marandana
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posted July 30, 2014 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marandana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got pluto in 1st house, and leo moon in 10th house and my BIGGEST dream is to be famous and being an oscar-winning actress... but that's just fantasy, I'm clearly far away from that.

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posted July 30, 2014 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have all indications of fame...but I have no fame...so maybe fame is not divined from the chart.

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posted July 30, 2014 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unaspected Sun seems to be a very telling sign of someone who will shine!

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posted July 31, 2014 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AlexDern:
I have all indications of fame...but I have no fame...so maybe fame is not divined from the chart.

Maybe you don't want to be famous?

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posted July 31, 2014 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hard work and dedication

Astrology can only show so much

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posted July 31, 2014 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ameliamei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sun conjunct MC and Saturn conjunct MC..exact. Riddle me that contradiction!

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posted July 31, 2014 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about the Lyra fixed stars, as well as the Great Attractor? Wouldn't aspects(especially favorable), indicate collective magnetism or recognition on a larger scale?

My fourth house ruler jupiter is in my tenth conjunct Sirius; It's on 10th/11th house cusp. POF is in Sag conjunct GA, IC, Antares.

Neptune in 5th conjunct Vega and NN in 5th in Aquarius. Leo moon in 12th house conjunct Regulus. Most important, my Sun is conjunct MC and Aldeberan exact.

I have two Earth GT's; Mercury, ASC, Uranus/Neptune and Venus, Moon, uranus/Neptune. 1 Water GT with DSC, Pluto, and Jupiter. A mT with SN in Leo, Sun/MC in Gemini, NN/Destinn in Aquarius, and IC in Sag. Part of Fame is my SN and it trines my POf and sextile Sun/MC. mars at Aries point quintile Sun/MC and sun/MC at 0 cancer in progressed chart

I hope to be a famous technological scientist in the future; the next Mark Zukerberg. I'm still young, so we'll see.

And I personally don't think Capricorn/Saturn in 10th house makes for fame as much as it indicates a successful businessman......but my opinion.

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posted July 31, 2014 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One configuration that I've seen pop up in a lot of celebrity charts is ruler of the 4th in the 10th. Those are the celebrities who's private home lives end up in the media for public consumption. It's the aspect of "no privacy".

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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
One configuration that I've seen pop up in a lot of celebrity charts is ruler of the 4th in the 10th. Those are the celebrities who's private home lives end up in the media for public consumption. It's the aspect of "no privacy".

That's me! Cap 4th, Saturn in 10 (very very close to 11 but IS 10)
Kind of a terrifying thought for a heavy 12th person.
Pof is conjunct

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posted July 31, 2014 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In many cases Jupiter also has to be strong…

But it is very different what has to be prominent, depending on the area… In music and the arts, 5th house and Neptune is important.
Finances, beauty and fashion is more about Saturn I believe…
Being unique, very special has to do with Uranus. I see extremely many famous people have something important aspecting their Uranus, it's what makes them stick out, even when they look normal, they still got a little extra something because of uranus.
I guess thats why Aquarius is also often prominent.
And speaking about Aqua it rules the 11th house, and the opposite house is the house of creativity, the 5th together with the sign leo! And leo is totally fame.
Many actors have a strong moon or neptune or both.
Journalists and writers have a strong mercury.

Usually you can see in the chart what their area of fame could be. The "energy" of the chart is pointing to something special, a certain house or sign.
It all leads back to the sun in the end, the sun is almost always involved or linked to the area where the person gets their fame.

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posted July 31, 2014 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
That's me! Cap 4th, Saturn in 10 (very very close to 11 but IS 10)
Kind of a terrifying thought for a heavy 12th person.
Pof is conjunct

With those placements, DF, you might very well one day find yourself in the spotlight. What's your 11th ruler doing? Having 11th ruler in the 10th or involved with the Sun, like Sun in 11th, 11th ruled by Leo, Sun conjunct 11th ruler, or having a strong aspect between 11th and MC can indicate having famous friends or having celebrity fans.

I've noticed a lot of celebrities who have other celebrities as their fans have 11th ruler in 10th. It's particularly strong in the case where Leo rules 11th and Sun is in 10th. Those celebrities are very famous and have highly famous fans.

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posted July 31, 2014 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon Conjunct the MidHeaven indicates life in the Public Eye.

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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
With those placements, DF, you might very well one day find yourself in the spotlight. What's your 11th ruler doing? Having 11th ruler in the 10th or involved with the Sun, like Sun in 11th, 11th ruled by Leo, Sun conjunct 11th ruler, or having a strong aspect between 11th and MC can indicate having famous friends or having celebrity fans.

I've noticed a lot of celebrities who have other celebrities as their fans have 11th ruler in 10th. It's particularly strong in the case where Leo rules 11th and Sun is in 10th. Those celebrities are very famous and have highly famous fans.


I have Leo 11th and I'm Leo sun! (conjunct Regulus)
Saturn in Leo but in 10th a degree or so from my 11th and 2 degree from pof. Delayed fame?
lol

I can't see myself being famous though and for what? I have no idea.

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posted July 31, 2014 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I have Leo 11th and I'm Leo sun! (conjunct Regulus)
Saturn in Leo but in 10th a degree or so from my 11th and 2 degree from pof. Delayed fame?
lol

I can't see myself being famous though and for what? I have no idea.


Umm... your chart sounds ripe for fame. Seriously.

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posted July 31, 2014 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I have Leo 11th and I'm Leo sun! (conjunct Regulus)
Saturn in Leo but in 10th a degree or so from my 11th and 2 degree from pof. Delayed fame?
lol

I can't see myself being famous though and for what? I have no idea.


Super jealous! I wish I at least had the potential in my chart to be famous, but not sure I would want to be famous in the first place. My chart as a whole is kinda lame though.

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I think there's other stuff too but I haven't read the whole thread. Maybe I should.
Pluto 1st conjunct asc was mentioned, planets aspecting MC was mentioned. (moon conjunct MC from 9th)

I have had the urge (and a few supporters on this site) to write or at least blog or something.
Ah, whatever will be well be.

ANYWAY..

Thank you! I keep getting all of these... Signs of encouragement or direct encouragement lately. Kind of weird.

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posted July 31, 2014 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For Fame:
-Aries Points: planets and points at 0 degrees in either Cancer, Aries, Libra or Capricorn.
-Prominent Jupiter
-A focus of planets on Angles with an emphasis on the 10th house
-Tight Generational Aspects to personal planets

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posted September 24, 2014 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anybody who responded to this thread famous yet? Lol

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I have sagittarius 11th house and unaspected venus conjunct NN in 11th and pluto conjunct MC idk if i would ever want to be famous/ could even become famous but i noticed i do get a lot of good attention and love from a lot of friends and people i come in contact with i guess thats the venus in 11th doing the job

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posted September 24, 2014 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ail221:
For Fame:
-Aries Points: planets and points at 0 degrees in either Cancer, Aries, Libra or Capricorn.

Do you know which site spawned this lil theory??

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