posted September 24, 2014 08:26 AM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
For Fame:
-Aries Points: planets and points at 0 degrees in either Cancer, Aries, Libra or Capricorn.
-Prominent Jupiter
-A focus of planets on Angles with an emphasis on the 10th house
-Tight Generational Aspects to personal planets

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posted January 22, 2015 02:49 PM            

I am newly registered on this site. But love reading it. Came across the Fame indicators post. Thought I shall add in inputs.

I am a libra rising with Mars in 10th, Saturn, Jupiter and NN in 11th, and Pluto, Sun, Moon, Mercury and Venus in 12th house.

I am an actor by profession in India which makes me a bit famous with the local crowd. Im listed on Wikipedia too. Although, did not make it too big in showbusiness. Career has been transitory and fame too seems so. Coz, I think I'm fading away. Out of sight is out of mind.

posted January 22, 2015 04:50 PM            

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Originally posted by LiesLilithsaidtouranus:
Wouldn't anything conjunct the Midheaven or IC, dictate fame even locally? Where at least a group of people know you for a certain thing, or what is happening in your life?

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posted January 23, 2015 10:36 AM            

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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
Hello everyone...

What exactly are the "fame indicators" in a natal chart? My understanding was that a planet would conjunct the MC in either the 9th, or 10th house. Now I've run across Venus in the 2nd being a fame indicator, and kind of weirdly, Saturn in the 11th!(?) Is there a list somewhere? Is it a combination of factors that indicate fame in a natal?

Thanks in advance.

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There are birth chart factors that can be seen repeating in the charts of famous people, but having them is no indication that you were 'born to be famous.'

There is no need for a conjunction to the MC or planets in the 10th. Plenty of famous people don't have these. Instead, some have planetary parallels to the MC which can come from planets positioned well away from either the 9th or 10th houses. Many have oppositions, contra-parallels or square to the MC. Some 11th house planets often show up. These often involve Jupiter, Uranus, Sun, Venus, Neptune.

Also, some have enough angular aspects to the Asc to trigger the ability to get noticed and have a relationship to the masses. Those aspects tend to involve Uranus, Jupiter, Sun, sometimes Venus.

Basically any angular aspects that indicate enough drive to get noticed and do things 'big' (Jupiter again) or 'different' (Uranus) or to display grace and beauty (Venus, Neptune).

And it is far more likely if the person has already had past lifetimes of getting noticed by the masses, experiencing the results, liking it and having it become part of their soul's karma and path. Fame isn't always kind and often has to be carefully negotiated.

All this is based on my observations of validated charts with correct Ascendants, not a survey of whatever chart astrodatabank or asrtotheme has for someone. I don't even bother to rely on AA-rated charts at ADB. I verify each and every chart in a painstaking process before correlating such details.