posted April 06, 2011 01:59 PM            

There are 2 versions of the Nessus/Dejanira story - in one Deja is the victim and Nessus the rapist. In the other, Deja is aware of her husbands several sundry indiscretions and wants to make him jealous. When they meet up w/ Nessus, she sees a golden opportunity to "kill with a borrowed knife" (as the Chinese say.) Whispering in Nessus ear, she inflames that famed centaur intemperance, and puts up quite the show of protesting. In this version, Dejanira represents the manipulative side of playing with forces she knew better than, but chose to anyway. It was Nessus who paid the price of her passive\aggressive jealousies, and the rest of the story was him extracting his vengeance. [It's also noteworthy that the real winner in this myth is Heracles, who receives his birthright recognition at long last among the Olympians as the result of Nessus' curse and Dejanira's jealousies.]

The square and opposition lay out you described is an intense one - the fun side will be the most delightful of intimacies, and the passions may very well be the most satisfying and addicting you have ever known. But enter these most cautiously, because Nessus' real power is felt when you try to pull away. Breakups that involve Nessus/Dejanira contacts can be harder than digging your own heart out with a dull blade - and emotionally you will feel like that is exactly what is happening. The attraction may not seem darksome and dire, but in the end you may wish you had drunk Drain-O instead, so great will be the pain.

posted April 06, 2011 02:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
No Hijack at all Starborhi
I like when new people climb on this bus

I will have to think about your questions.
Please check out my thread and see if you can help me.
Then,maybe I will be able to get some insight on this.
I am unclear about planets/asteroids on the NN.
I will bump my thread so you see .

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Ami - my Nessus gal was on my NN. See my previous post for the results of that.

posted April 06, 2011 02:51 PM            

I will study your posts,later. I ,prolly,will come back and ask some questions,if that is OK

posted April 07, 2011 07:30 AM            

My Nessus is squared Pluto. All I can think about this is that Pluto and Nessus fight each other and *I* must integrate them ,somehow.
Squares call for putting together things that do not want to go ,together,I think.
You have to integrate them so both sides of the square work and have balance.
Am I right in this ?
With the opposition,you can be on either end of the pole.
With the square ,you must resolve the issue in such a way that they blend.

posted April 07, 2011 01:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Jake
*I* see the Nessus relationship in synastry in a different way than you do.
*I*, truly, see it as an opportunity to heal one's own Nessus/Deja.
If one did not have the original problem,one would not have been" attracted" to it from the outside.
I don't see it as an issue of avoiding the Nessus relationship .
I don't think we can control to whom we are attracted.
I think we need to go forward, with our heart.
When/if our heart breaks, we will learn lessons which only come through pain,as most lessons seem to lol
Bottom line, we are struggling with our own ego,most of the time.
We SEE it as coming from the outside,though

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posted April 07, 2011 01:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Amphitrite:
posted April 04, 2011 05:02 AM           
I should also mention that My natal Nessus is conjunct my NN (1 degree orb), and natal Dejanira is conjunct neptune (2 degree orb).

Thank you for your time
Amph

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posted April 07, 2011 01:46 PM            

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Originally posted by StJake:
I have Nessus conj NN as well. We are learning how to heal our own pains by healing others - according to the books anyway.

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Dear Jake
Could you ,please,help me with what a planet/asteroid conjunct the NN means?

I can't grasp it in a simple,real world way.
My friend has Neptune conjunct the NN?
What would that mean--in real life?

*I* have NN conjunct the GC.Who knows what THAT means