posted April 28, 2014 12:46 PM              

Like my best friend has Cancer Venus square Aries Mars. He's always been popular with women and had so many females with crushes on him and even coming on to him, without much effort.

But, he almost exclusively expresses his macho Aries Mars and represses a lot of his Cancer Venus (even though I can still see that energy in him). Though I generally hate this theory, I do think that men with these types of aspects, at least, often project their feminine planets on to women, to a very repressed degree. They just can't deal with that feminine side. And I can definitely sense that struggle within him. It's like he has these black and white ideas about how men and women behave and it can be pretty unhealthy.

posted April 28, 2014 01:54 PM            

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Originally posted by jjj:
I have Venus Mars wide conjunction in scorpio (7 degrees) and guys also perceive me as unapproachable... why, havent still figured out.

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posted April 28, 2014 07:54 PM              

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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
Yikes! I know of someone with a n.Venus square n.Mars, and not only is he incredibly handsome, but a pretty popular guy. However, doesn't seem to have the greatest love life. A bit unstable.

In my natal, Venus is in sextile to Mars. I seem to naturally get along better with men than women, but that's about it.

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My venus sextiles my Mars as well and I too get along better with women than men xD
weirdd

posted April 27, 2016 06:11 AM            

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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
I've found people with Venus square Mars, particularly heterosexual people, tend to both be really attractive to the opposite sex while also having major gender-role issues.

Like my best friend has Cancer Venus square Aries Mars. He's always been popular with women and had so many females with crushes on him and even coming on to him, without much effort.

But, he almost exclusively expresses his macho Aries Mars and represses a lot of his Cancer Venus (even though I can still see that energy in him). Though I generally hate this theory, I do think that men with these types of aspects, at least, often project their feminine planets on to women, to a very repressed degree. They just can't deal with that feminine side. And I can definitely sense that struggle within him. It's like he has these black and white ideas about how men and women behave and it can be pretty unhealthy.

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I think you could be on to something.

There are so many things that I can say about it.

* People who associate aggression/violence with love.

*People who love to be "possessed" or are themselves possessive

*People who are turned on by dramatic displays of affection and love

*People who have a very turbulent love relationship-due to their sensitivity in giving and receiving love.

*People who enjoy the chase and can be caught up in the adrenaline rush that goes with it.

*People who love the initial stages of love(infatuation). But get bored/restless as the relationship develops to maturity

*People who attract/attracted to "macho" types-both in females and males.

*People who see themselves as the "drivers" and initiators in the relationship. And don't like to be challenged

Its an aspect that can definitely create problems in close relationships.

From a distance,these people can exude attractiveness and/or sex appeal.Because they appear so passionate and "raw".

I have the Moon/Mars square and in many ways,I can touch base with this too.As Moon does plays a role in how one demonstrates and receives "love".

I am not an easy person to love. No ways

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posted August 25, 2018 02:51 AM            

Its not a smooth energy either so..

Also in a male it often means he may have hidden or open contempt against women. Even the most nicest ones can have contemt and hide it. I’m very very wary of mars-venus squares in a male thise days, its a red flag aspect as I see it.

posted August 25, 2018 07:10 AM            

Have Mars Trine Venus with very wide aspetc of six and half degree.
Mars in Libra and Venus in Gemini.

posted October 11, 2018 10:00 AM            

I have a Venus square Mars in my natal chart (Taurus Mars in the 9th house, Aquarius Venus in the 6th house).

Before I go on, I want to make something very clear. As mentioned in another thread, there is a lot of “prejudice and misinterpretation” about this aspect. All this dark stuff about love-hate, conflict, abuse, etc. is completely absurd. IMHO, other natal aspects are far more influential, such as certain hard Pluto, Uranus and Saturn natal aspects.

I firmly believe that the Venus square Mars aspect indicates conflicted desires, frustrations, bad timing, missed opportunities and incorrectly read situations (e.g. coming on too strong at the wrong time, or reining in those emotions and doing the complete opposite). In a nutshell, it’s essentially about the Mars and Venus being at loggerheads with each other. Anything else, such as aggression, possessiveness, flakiness, etc. is probably indicative of other natal aspects (though not necessarily in isolation).

For example, at least half of my exes were manipulative or emotionally abusive to some degree, hence breaking up with them. Ironically, I was never abusive towards them in any shape or form. So, while the aforementioned dark issues may be present in a relationship with a Venus square Mars native, chances are they probably stem from the native’s partner. This is one of the reasons why many Venus square Mars natives tend to have unsatisfactory love lives – for some reason we just attract these types of people. And, for men, it’s even more difficult to suss out potential partners as we are often too preoccupied in our roles as the pursuers.

Regarding attraction, I do attract a lot of attention from the opposite sex (even though I was a late bloomer). Is this energy considered primal and raw, or simply magnetic? I honestly can’t say for sure but, from what I’ve researched, there are some Venus natal aspects that provide different flavours, regarding sex appeal (Pluto, Neptune and Uranus are the others). Out of those four, I possess three in my natal chart. But is the Venus-Mars aspect a surface thing? Personally, I don’t think so – I think it’s more of an outward indication of potential energy that could be unleashed either with the right partner or in the right environment. I think that’s why not everyone who notices this energy is able to tap into (and savour) it. Sadly, this fundamental problem leads back to the afflicted native.

So, what kind of attention do I receive? Well, I do get curious, friendly and deer-in-the-headlights stares from women, and some may flirt (more so in social situations). But, more often than not, many women tend to find me intimidating or unapproachable at first (according to the ones I eventually speak to). The strange thing is, I tend to garner more obvious or aggressive female attention, when I’m either sad, angry, tired, preoccupied, ill or already spoken for. And, yes, sometimes I can be oblivious to any interest from women. Cue many of the missed opportunities and frustrations that arise from such situations…

To complicate matters even further, when I’m either not interested or decide not to reciprocate a woman’s interest, she tends to get really mean (sometimes even resorting to spreading lies and rumours about me). Also, with the women I do date, some of them tend to unfairly assume that I’m either a player or bisexual. The women who stick around long enough usually end up realising that such concerns are completely unfounded.

So, overall, Venus square Mars natives may attract a lot of attention, particularly from the opposite sex, but that’s as good as it gets… well, most of the time.

posted October 11, 2018 12:45 PM            

Its too bad there can be so few "aspect owners" who comes into thise threads to tell about how certain aspects manifests in their lifes.

Of course we tend to (or I tend to) forget how thise energies also often comes to life by, "attracting" the type of people said aspect "represents".

For ex people who have mars-pluto aspects, may of course not be abusive people, but may instead seem to attract abusive people into their lifes etc.

For some reason I tend to forget this about astrology

Often also it can be an interplay of energies, where one changes roles etc but thats more of synastry I believe for now.

One can also after attracting certain kind of for ex males in their life, bc of an aspect, start to distrust all kind of males.

And thus live out the aspects "hidden discontemt" side.

What I mean is, if someone has certain bias or prejudice against a gender or certain type of people, this often does not come out of no where so to speak.

The person very well may have his/her reasons to feel and act a certain way.

If I give a woman with mars-pluto aspect as an example again (and this is an extreme example.

She may maybe feel "Men are all cheating and violent! I always attract jerks!

I hate all men!" or she may also feel contemt against herself "I always attract jerks, I most be a very weak and a worthless person".

So what i mean is, she may feel this and that but there is a "rational" reason to why she feels that way, or attracts that type of people etc.

And thats something one not can see in a chart that obviously, or maybe very good astrologers can!

People are complex beings

posted October 11, 2018 12:50 PM            

Also this is not something I say out of nowhere, many astrologers interpretent this aspect that way, so thats why I wrote it like that before. I did not think of it sounding too harsh, I should have used different pharasings, I think now

But I do understand if you felt like I was insensetive, I feel the same when people use certain keywords about certain signs without knowing the whole picture^^

posted October 11, 2018 12:51 PM            

Venus-Moon,Moon-Neptune or Venus-Neptune are magnetic IMO. I didn't say that last.

Venus-Mars may come on too strong for other's taste. Not all people may respond positively. It has the potential to have a love/hate outcome. Although not as sweeping as Venus-Pluto.

The ones I know(even with the easy aspect) attract people, true. But their ability to retain them is less certain.

There is often trouble with easing relations. Similar really to Mars in 7th Aries on the cusp of the 7th or Mars ruling the 7th.

The partners they attract could be selfish (Mars) or self centred in some ways. Even violent(in extreme cases).

posted October 11, 2018 01:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
Also no I'm not a person who lacks empathy nor understanding, I did also phrase my text with "May have", as in, its not a certain thing, don't rush when reading!

Also this is not something I say out of nowhere, many astrologers interpretent this aspect that way, so thats why I wrote it like that before. I did not think of it sounding too harsh, I should have used different pharasings, I think now

But I do understand if you felt like I was insensetive, I feel the same when people use certain keywords about certain signs without knowing the whole picture^^

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I believe you contributed to at least two threads about this aspect and I very much doubt "may have" was used in every single one of those posts (of which there are a few).

You state that that's how astrologers interpret this aspect. Well, that's where you and I differ. Unless, I've acquired sufficient personal experiences with any aspect, I usually try to reserve any judgement (and if I have to make a comment about an unfamiliar aspect, to stress that it's what I've read and NOT what I've experienced).

I've long stopped placing too much faith in what astrologers say because, a good proportion of the time, what's said is complete and utter rubbish. Some aspects are sensationalised, while others are diplomatically examined. I've encountered this all once too often, so everything is now taken with a pinch of salt.

As for knowing the whole picture, no-one will ever reach that stage, as there are always unfamiliar nuances still yet to be realised. The key is relating what you know to your own personal experiences, as opposed to placing too much blind faith in (possibly) biased or bandwagon-jumping astrologers.

posted October 11, 2018 02:06 PM            

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Melinn,

I believe you contributed to at least two threads about this aspect and I very much doubt "may have" was used in every single one of those posts (of which there are a few).

You state that that's how astrologers interpret this aspect. Well, that's where you and I differ. Unless, I've acquired sufficient personal experiences with any aspect, I usually try to reserve any judgement (and if I have to make a comment about an unfamiliar aspect, to stress that it's what I've read and NOT what I've experienced).

I've long stopped placing too much faith in what astrologers say because, a good proportion of the time, what's said is complete and utter rubbish. Some aspects are sensationalised, while others are diplomatically examined. I've encountered this all once too often, so everything is now taken with a pinch of salt.

As for knowing the whole picture, no-one will ever reach that stage, as there are always unfamiliar nuances still yet to be realised. The key is relating what you know to your own personal experiences, as opposed to placing too much blind faith in (possibly) biased or bandwagon-jumping astrologers.

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Ok I undersand how and what you mean, I really do. I agree with how some aspects are even "babied" with while some is just thrown away with "yeah aquarius are detached".

Don't take it out on me though!

I do admit when I do wrong, but also I have tried to explain what and how I ment.
I don't like feeling like I'm being accused of something, especially when I have tried my best to explain myself.

I don't think its My fault if people who are interested in astrology can not understand for themselves that astrology is energies and we can only interpretent it by examples and metaphores.

I understand you don't like my style of writing.

posted October 11, 2018 06:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
Ok I undersand how and what you mean, I really do. I agree with how some aspects are even "babied" with while some is just thrown away with "yeah aquarius are detached".

Don't take it out on me though!

I do admit when I do wrong, but also I have tried to explain what and how I ment.
I don't like feeling like I'm being accused of something, especially when I have tried my best to explain myself.

I don't think its My fault if people who are interested in astrology can not understand for themselves that astrology is energies and we can only interpretent it by examples and metaphores.

I understand you don't like my style of writing.

Granted my writing style is not as diplomatic as some other peoples are, I'm too restless (aries/gemini) for that and pluto in third oppo mercury, I may be harsh in my style, so please take no offence, as I try my best to improve my writing style

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No personal offence taken. Like you, I have a writing style that's not one of the most favoured. However, after reading various threads here, on this topic, as well as the lack of input from men with this natal aspect, I just felt the need to set the record straight.

posted October 12, 2018 04:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Vinnu:

No personal offence taken. Like you, I have a writing style that's not one of the most favoured. However, after reading various threads here, on this topic, as well as the lack of input from men with this natal aspect, I just felt the need to set the record straight.

It was never my intention to single you out, it's just that your point was notably harsh for the male natives, without offering any underlining reasons. Also, you conveniently disregarded how the same issue could manifest itself, in female natives, in almost the same manner. There were a few other unfair statements bandied around, in both this and other threads, but your comment was the one I wanted to address the most.

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I really start to regret trying to communicate with you. I do agree and meet you the half way, but I don't feel you are even hearing me out.

You contradict yourself by saying "It was never my intention to single you out",
and then going forward with how you found me harsh etc so thats why you are addressing just me.

Thats called singling someone out, just let us be straight there.

"you conveniently disregarded"?!
We were talking about this aspect in males, or, I was especially talking abouut this aspect in males. I do not disregard anything, is there a rule we have to talk about aspects in male vs female?

We were talking about males in the threads I wrote in, what I recall. Also I have no idea how this aspect manifests in females! And I'm no expert, I just know a handful men in my life who has this aspect.

What do you want from me? Do you wish me to go back and delete my very subjective comments?

Nowhere do I state I'm an expert astrologer right? I'm just a learner, so please chill^^

Its great you do step in to give the male perspectives to the aspect, we really need that.

Just don't scold me or others in the process please.

And don't mistake my from before accommodating tone as if its ok to try to push me around^^

Have a nice day!

posted October 12, 2018 10:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:

I really start to regret trying to communicate with you. I do agree and meet you the half way, but I don't feel you are even hearing me out.

You contradict yourself by saying "It was never my intention to single you out",
and then going forward with how you found me harsh etc so thats why you are addressing just me.

Thats called singling someone out, just let us be straight there.

"you conveniently disregarded"?!
We were talking about this aspect in males, or, I was especially talking abouut this aspect in males. I do not disregard anything, is there a rule we have to talk about aspects in male vs female?

We were talking about males in the threads I wrote in, what I recall. Also I have no idea how this aspect manifests in females! And I'm no expert, I just know a handful men in my life who has this aspect.

What do you want from me? Do you wish me to go back and delete my very subjective comments?

Nowhere do I state I'm an expert astrologer right? I'm just a learner, so please chill^^

Its great you do step in to give the male perspectives to the aspect, we really need that.

Just don't scold me or others in the process please.

And don't mistake my from before accommodating tone as if its ok to try to push me around^^

Have a nice day!

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Okay, fine. No more Mister Nice Guy. I’m now going to take my gloves off…

It seems that all you want to do is play the victim, because someone caught you out making an insensitive statement based on ignorance. You were wrong, it’s as simple as that. So, please quit with the backtracking, lame excuses, passive-aggressive comments and playing the martyr. Yes, in all your replies, I saw at least one example of each but decided to remain civil. And now, because your defensiveness forced me to remind you of your faux pas, I’m scolding you?!

We are interacting on a forum – that’s the purpose of this site. It doesn’t work with you posting whatever you want, and everyone else either accepting your views or remaining quiet. And, no, I didn’t contradict myself – you conveniently took my words out of context. But just in case you genuinely misunderstood what I said, I’ll rephrase it for you:

“It was never my intention to single you out UNTIL you made a notably harsh point about the male natives…”

Your harsh post is featured in this very thread. This thread is about an aspect, irrespective of gender. Here is the OP. I see no evidence of emphasis on either gender, just a general observation.

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I've noticed that most people I know with a Venus Mars square are very popular with the opposite sex.
It's like they have that vibe about them and people are always attracted to them.

Could it only be because of the Venus Mars square?
Or other elements?

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It was you who decided that the thread was about men. Other posters mentioned female natives… some of the female posters are Venus square Mars natives themselves. So please, don’t try to pull the wool over my eyes.

In a previous post, you stressed that you used “may have”, as part of your defence. Well, let’s have a look:

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Originally posted by Melinn:
Also in a male it often means he may have hidden or open contempt against women. Even the most nicest ones can have contemt and hide it. I’m very very wary of mars-venus squares in a male thise days, its a red flag aspect as I see it.

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In the following sentence, you’re basically insinuating that, even if that “may have” part isn’t true, the male native still has hidden contempt for women. So, you’re practically saying that ALL male natives have this contempt. And then you go on about this aspect being a red flag… with such conviction… only to later admit that you don’t know much about this aspect (or astrology for that matter) and are simply regurgitating whatever you’ve read. How is that going to be helpful or constructive to anyone? I mean, seriously…

What do I want from you? To stop spreading astrological misinformation… To stop and think about the astrological ‘knowledge’ you share with others… To realise that you have to be responsible with what you share, as there are many impressionable people out there (read: consequences).

To think that someone’s life could have changed for the worse, because someone else read your ignorant comments…

Okay, I’m done.

posted October 12, 2018 12:55 PM            

Em I the only one seing the irony here? It "May" be Venus square mars energy right here in your comment above. Or something else dunno..

"Nice guy", as if you were nice before?

I thought it was frustration talking, but yeah now I see, you were not nice to begin with.

I was never defensive nor passive agressive. Nothing is passive with me, I can assure you of that.

I really tried to take your criticism as contructive criticism.
But there is nothing contructive in your criticism.

I on the other hand did acknowledged your frustration and owned up to my forward writing style but everytime I met you the half way you said a few sentences, to seem like you understood me, then went on with your scolding or whatever you now are doing, you name it.

If you are so disturbed by my writings and comments by all means, give me constructive criticism I'm always open to that.