posted June 02, 2011 03:01 AM            

and I?> Alot less

posted June 02, 2011 10:26 AM            

Everytime I ask him if he can do something for me, he says alright, but I know already that he'd say that anyway. It still takes me a long time to make sure if he really does have the time and the ability to do something for me or if he's going out of his way just to please me.

He's also married to my mother for almost 30 years. She's a very difficult woman, as I've mentioned before ( ) and he did nothing but give up his own identity for the sake of her. For example: my dad loves food, especially exotic food and preferrably very hot and spicy. My mother only likes what she knows of food and that knowledge restricts itself to local "classics", such as banal sausage with mash and cauliflower, simple spaghetti (no paprikas or peppers or anything of the likes!), steak etc... you get the picture. I do admire my dad in this because what he has done, I would not be able to do for longer than a months: he gave up his favourite food just to please my mother's eating habits. And to think he's a fantastic cook if only you'd let him cook whatever he wants!

He also has to do the dishes every time and clean because, according to my mother, they already "agreed" that she was crap at doing dishes and cleaning so it was better if he did it. My impression of that when I was younger was that she was just lazy and took advantage of him... But yeah, my dad seems to let people take advantage of him easily. Too easily.

posted June 06, 2011 04:13 PM            

I think the article was a little weak...too much higher self stuff and not enough cold hard reality - which is what chiron is. Chiron is the classic theme of abandonment and rejection...chiron strong in the chart can often show someone who has a lot of hidden rage.

What was said about moon/chiron conjunction could easily be said about having a strong outer planet to inner planet contacts.

Lots of people have difficulty and awkwardness about expressing emotional needs, these are more likely to show up with hard aspects between mercury and the moon than with the moon to chiron.

I agree with some statements made but a lot of it is very generic. Chiron individuals are probably more likely to go for help because they feel the need to "learn" from their wounds.

edit to add, I should've mentioned the book Barriers and bundaries by liz greene, that gives some good ideas on saturn and chirn and the defence mechanisms we all have. I have read Barabara Hand Clow, Melanie Reinhart and Martin Lass (all on chiron), I'd say melanie reinhart is pretty good but on the whole I've found that too many writers try to emphasise the fluff. The facts are Chiron was abandoned and rejected by both parents only to have to give up his immortality because of a horrific wound that was inflicted accidentally. It was no ones "fault"...it was an accident. He also has strong connections to illegitimacy...his dad was copulating with a bit on the side - as he transformed the seed sent forth was horse...which is how he ended up a centaur and ultimately rejected by his mother because he wasn't human.

posted June 06, 2011 05:08 PM            

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Chiron aspecting the Moon means that the native will not be able to have any feelings unless the alchemical or spiritualized dimension is part of the feeling process.

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posted June 06, 2011 10:10 PM            

I would say that I agree wholeheartedly with the article that MertSerimer posted. I often tell people that I'm all right, but when I'm not, and I say that, I hope that they will dig deeper and realize that I am lying. Some people do and some people don't. The people that do are my closest friends.

I do feel like I am never fully satisfied emotionally- it's as if something is always missing. I don't ever want to feel disappointed, so if I do feel happy, I anticipate disappointment will surely come eventually. So, I'm never completely happy, I suppose. Happiness is fleeting. Yet, I yearn for it, and I do my best to strive for it.

I grew up resenting my mother. She loved to force things on me. I really wanted to play violin in grade school, but she wanted me to play piano instead because she preferred it. My appearance in particular was/is especially important to her. When I was growing up, she would say I smell bad every day--even if I had taken a shower 20 minutes before. When she sees me now, she still insists that I smell bad. I had a bout of acne during high school, so she would have me wash my face every day with soap for 10 minutes- which ultimately made my face worse. She made me dye my hair because she thought my natural color was ugly. She would brush my teeth for me, one time even for 45 minutes, because she thought that I didn't do it well enough. When I finally became an adult, she has calmed down considerably but needless to say she has traumatized me. Now, I am comfortable with my looks- but I often ask potentials if I smell bad, haha. They always say that I smell nice.

I agree with Aya_and_baby: She is my mother, so I love her.

posted June 16, 2013 05:50 PM            

Man.. so many things happened since.
Grew up a lot.

I'm so cappy,

posted March 08, 2015 05:41 AM            

One of my dearest friend has the conjunction, and we have the sextile in synastry.

She can be super abrasive(Aries moon)& avoids feelings but I have known so many Pisces Sun/Aries moon that her behavior is very odd.

I have notices that she always lies when I uncover thinks about her past, but never knew why?(My Pluto trine her Mercury 0.00!/Sun 6.0).

Thanks for the info.

posted March 08, 2015 06:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I still can't grasp Moon-Chiron in the natal.

Depth of emotions?
Issues with emotions?
Issues with mother?

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

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posted March 08, 2015 06:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Virgo28:
Does the conjunction always implies a bad mother & repressed feelings???

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I wouldn't say "bad mother", but rather issues with the mother, especially on an emotional plane, related to unsatisfied needs (that are of course mainly subjective and don't necessarily "make sense" at first glance).

The repressed feelings part... well, yes and no. I think whenever Chiron is involved there's a certain awareness of one's vulnerability in that area regardless if one "fools" oneself or not. So in a way you know you have certain emotional wounds and traumas even if you choose not to deal with them.

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I have notices that she always lies when I uncover thinks about her past, but never knew why?(My Pluto trine her Mercury 0.00!/Sun 6.0).

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I wouldn't associate lying with Moon/Chiron at all unless she feels like when someone (you?) tries to dig up some emotional stuff in her, she has to protect herself in any way she can and that implies lying or not telling the whole story so she doesn't have to expose her vulnerabilities. That could be true of Moon/Saturn and Moon/Pluto as well. But the lying part I'd say is a Neptune thing or a negative Pluto.

posted March 08, 2015 06:47 PM            

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Originally posted by mercuranian:

thank your lucky stars

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