posted December 22, 2011 06:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MertSerimer:
[b] Come on post your chart. Lets find out where your moronish acts are caused from.

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posted December 22, 2011 07:59 PM            

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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
I have an 18 yr old daughter with a moon/pluto opposition and whilst there is a definite undercurrent of power struggle I can't say that we let it get in the way. I take care to not impose myself on her but at the same time I'll give my opinion if she wants it. We actually get along fine, she takes her role as a daughter quite seriously and makes the effort to come and see me so that we can talk and just chill out...this is her insistence not mine.

However, before she moved out things could be hard, there was a feeling of her wanting to rule the roost...and she was aware of this also. We both have a lot of fixed planets and feel happier knowing one anothers boundaries and I wonder if this helps? We do have disagreements but can agree to respect the difference.

I think the moon/pluto has to be worked with...it's not an aspect you can ignore. I have them quindecile and was unable to work through anything with my own mother though as I've got older I can respect the fact that she's human - and therefore flawed.

With the moon/pluto there is always an obsessive element to emotions and I know that my daughter likes the fact that I get where she's coming from if she's caught up in something.

Things could always change between us ... but it would take something major to cause long term damage. Her moon is in taurus (exalted?)and pluto is in scorpio (dignity) and I wonder if this also helps?

So yes to mother issues...power struggles... but there can be a good outcome.

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posted December 22, 2011 08:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
How could I forget to mention I have Moon conjunct Pluto!?

Well I do! lol

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posted December 23, 2011 02:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
I do have intence emotions. Not a lot of people see me loose it though. Well now that I'm older more people see that side to me. (a b!tchy side lol)

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There's a difference between feeling emotions intensely and being b!tchy.

posted February 26, 2012 10:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
What do you guys think of the theory that Moon/Pluto people get on better with their grandmothers than their mothers? Or is this true for everyone My grandmother was everything to me and when she died I felt that loss much more acutely than my mother's death.

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posted February 26, 2012 11:00 PM            

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Originally posted by curiouswoman:
anyone with hard aspects with moon and pluto that have trouble with women as a female yourselves? please talk about it

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posted February 27, 2012 11:09 AM            

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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
I have an 18 yr old daughter with a moon/pluto opposition and whilst there is a definite undercurrent of power struggle I can't say that we let it get in the way. I take care to not impose myself on her but at the same time I'll give my opinion if she wants it. We actually get along fine, she takes her role as a daughter quite seriously and makes the effort to come and see me so that we can talk and just chill out...this is her insistence not mine.

However, before she moved out things could be hard, there was a feeling of her wanting to rule the roost...and she was aware of this also. We both have a lot of fixed planets and feel happier knowing one anothers boundaries and I wonder if this helps? We do have disagreements but can agree to respect the difference.

I think the moon/pluto has to be worked with...it's not an aspect you can ignore. I have them quindecile and was unable to work through anything with my own mother though as I've got older I can respect the fact that she's human - and therefore flawed.

With the moon/pluto there is always an obsessive element to emotions and I know that my daughter likes the fact that I get where she's coming from if she's caught up in something.

Things could always change between us ... but it would take something major to cause long term damage. Her moon is in taurus (exalted?)and pluto is in scorpio (dignity) and I wonder if this also helps?

So yes to mother issues...power struggles... but there can be a good outcome.

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Whew! Thanks for your input.

My young daughter and I are very close. Her moon is opposed to Pluto but maybe out of orb (10 degree difference.)

We have occasional power struggles, but I can't imagine us ever having a real fall-out. If anything she might try to control ME too much, but since she is spunky and smart, I look forward to the adventure.

posted February 27, 2012 11:14 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
[b]What do you guys think of the theory that Moon/Pluto people get on better with their grandmothers than their mothers? Or is this true for everyone My grandmother was everything to me and when she died I felt that loss much more acutely than my mother's death.

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My daughter has moon opposed Pluto (wide orb, though.) She looks exactly like her paternal grandmother, who died before she was born. I mean, she looks almost nothing like me, she's just the spitting image of her grandmother.

Her birthday is also trine this grandmother's, and their Chinese signs are "trine"...I think they would have adored each other.

posted February 27, 2012 11:23 AM            

I love my mom very much and I really want her to be happy but we were never able to build a balanced relationship. She is draining and has BPD. We never grew up in a stable or supportive environment.

posted February 27, 2012 01:36 PM            

My mother and I are EXTREMELY close. Always have been as far back as I can remember. Speaking to psychics and others over the years, we know that me and her are soulmates, and have experienced countless lifetimes together in many many different forms. We're always with each other.

Growing up my mom was my rock. She was always there for me, and always had my best interest in her mind. In elementry school our relationship was a bit rocky at times, but that was 100% my fault for not doing well in school. She fostered my identity and persona so well, and made me feel important to her. Her love truly was, and is, unconditional.

Now older, at times I can bit heads with her, but if that happens it's quickly solved and discussed between us. In a way I feel like at times me and her may have been too close. Growing up she was my mother, and like my best friend at the same time. Which isn't always good, but for who I am as a person that actually worked out extremely well. There are some things my mother and I will discuss that I feel isn't quite right since I am her child, but nevertheless it works.

She had a profound effect on me from as far back as I can remember (and I can remember being in a stroller). If my dad yelled at me it had almost no impact. If my mom did though, it cut like a knife. She intrinsically has had a profound influence over me.

I think a major thing that had an impact on why our relationship works so well, is she found my astrology chart when I was only 7 years old. She spoke with an astrologer and realised what my moon conjunct pluto in scorpio meant for her. She was then aware of how profoundly her behavior could effect me, and did her best to "watch herself", which I am eternally greatful for.

If it is of any relevance, this is her chart. It's a rough one that's for sure.

posted February 27, 2012 02:59 PM            

What is most difficult about her chart? Pluto opposed sun? 'Looks like it's almost forming a t-square with her moon?

posted February 27, 2012 10:27 PM            

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Thanks for telling us about your great relationship with your mom, tautomer.

What is most difficult about her chart? Pluto opposed sun? 'Looks like it's almost forming a t-square with her moon?

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Her toughest aspect by her standards is moon square pluto. Despite the wide orb, she does experience it strongly, partly because pluto also opposes her sun. My mother is incredibly strong, but also extremely sensitive due to all her 4th house energy and pisces energy. She's had a very emotionally difficult life. Parents who loved her, but "ignored" her needs, and countless relationships were the men (my father being one of them) emotionally abused her. By her nature she is compromising to a fault and would bend to anyone elses will thinking she was subservient and second to all else. It wasn't until I was a child that she started to awaken to the power and intelligence that she has. She's still coming into it now. She has to take the reigns of her own skills but if and when she does she will be a force to be reckoned with.

Her mercury square neptune can make her have absolutely WONKY logic at times though, mostly with pratical matters (due to the mars square neptune). It's a silly example, but nonetheless highlights this: I had to explain to her once that sea salt does NOT contain less sodium, and that packaging labels can and do lie. As a chemist, that was both hilarious and depressing. Took me a good 20 minutes to explain to her that you can't change salt. Salt is salt. Poor thing went for a walk afterwards and I think she cried a little (over the situation, not me) . I'm no stranger to "backwards logic" as I have mercury biquintile neptune, so my mom and I speak the same language super well, but she has a hard time seeing logic flaws. Which, as you can imagine, are quite common inside of backwards logic.

posted February 28, 2012 07:46 AM            

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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
Faith ~ I get what you're saying about the daughter controlling you Mine is 19yrs old now and will often ask questions in a demanding tone...as if I owe her an explanation. She's staying over tonight and is helping me decorate the bathroom...at her insistence not mine. She'll message to see how I'm doing and can be very considerate, I've got moon opp Uranus and give her space. I don't place "societal duties" on her [ like saying she has to call, come over, act a certain way] but she tries to impose them on me, she'll force me into family get togethers and even made sure I attended her boyfriend's dad's 50th birthday.

It does make me laugh a lot because we're so very different when it comes to what's expected of one another. We're both fixed(leo and aqua) but it works.

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LOL! See, I think your daughter sounds cute. All of this sounds funny and nice to me (though I'm sorry if you find it a little aggravating).

My daughter gets set on doing certain projects, like having a tea party, and ropes me into it, so I'm making cookies while she sets the table and creates a stunning centerpiece (she's 9 and actually looks like a young Martha Stewart.)

posted February 28, 2012 08:24 AM            

It's nice to see karma at work, that the good you do will be returned to you.

I think any mother would be delighted to have her child(ren) grow up and speak so well of her, defending and looking out for her. It seems to happen so rarely.

posted April 17, 2014 10:08 PM            

My mom and I had a great relationship.. We went through a lot together (her drug addiction, homelessness, poverty just to name a few) but it was always just me and her together (I've no siblings and my father was never around).

My mother and I never really had power struggles.. I was much more dominant than she ever could have been and she was very submissive to me. I was also the more responsible one, though, so that could be why. She let me make my own mistakes, wasn't smothering, and didn't try to control me. I never had a curfew, never had to ask her permission for things, and she busted her behind to get me anything I wanted. I truly admire the woman my mother was. I lost her last month and it took an impact on my life and really messed me up; I think this aspect denotes not only issues with mothers but also the strength of the relationship. I always felt like I cared more for my mother than my friends cared for theirs (not to be all selfish).

I've also got Mars (in Cancer in the 4th) trine Pluto.. And I wouldn't say that I've got anger issues or control issues. I've heard I'm pretty bossy here and there but I don't intend to be. I don't believe anyone has to listen to what I say or do what I tell them to do. I can just hope they will! Lol.

My advice to all of those mothers with children that have Moon/Pluto placements - you mean more to them than they will let on. You are God in their eyes. Understand that. Give them some room to breathe; trust their decision making abilities and they will thank you in ways you'd never fathomed. I know they say the love a mother has for her child is the strongest love out there but I'm not so sure. I think my mother and I loved each other very equally; just as strong. And I'm sure many with this same placement will say the same.