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posted May 22, 2012 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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5th house in Pisces, 11th house in Virgo. I give everything I receive nothing

That's Virgo for ya.

My Fifth house is Capricorn, with Neptune-Moon-Uranus in it, ruled by Saturn in Pisces. My Eleventh house is Cancer, ruled by Moon in Capricorn.

Perhaps you could help me? I'm unsure of this dynamic to be honest. I give quite a bit such as if a friend asks me to take them out to lunch, sure, I'll do it! But...hmm...Saturn in Pisces...Pisces is about giving...I'm tres confused about this.

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posted May 22, 2012 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
Hmmm... I have my Aquarius moon in 5th house, exact trines the Gemini Venus... 5th house ruled by Uranus in Scorpio. I always like really interesting guys, different from the norm, with a bit of eccentricity and unpredictable element in them. I also like the depth in emotions in a guy.

I have my Leo Sun and North Node in my 11th house, where Sun sextile ascendant.. I believe I appear warm-hearted, devoted in love. I expected to be treated equally in the same way. A guy who showers me with reasonable attention (I'm not demanding ridiculous attention ) and romantic gestures and praises should work wonders on me.

Hi Lotis White, I know you did gave examples in your first post about Leo and Aquarius... I have been wondering for the longest time: how will one explain now that the signs are exchanged in the 5th and 11th houses. Its like both 5th and 11th house has each an element of its opposite sign and will this decreases the "favour" or strength of the house?


Lilith Pluto, and also everybody as well,

Well, no matter what sign is on the 5th house cusp, this house represents what qualities initially make you fall in love, impress you, and inspire your heartfelt passion. It represents infatuation…. Ever hear that song ’Paparazzi’ by lady Ga Ga… the 5th house can make you someone’s personal groupie so to speak.

So with Aqua on the 5th and Uranus in Scorpio ruling…. It’s the unconventional, exciting, friendly, intense, probing, curious guys who are unconcerned with petty rules that catch your attention…a sort of laid back, open minded guy, who’s also deeply feeling, and aware of psychological nuances… If your were writing a love story, for instance, you’d probably pick this type of guy for the lead love interest. People who influence your 5th house inspire your adoration.

In terms of how your express your own affection, this shows that you do so accepting the other person as the unique individual that they are, by being a good friend, and talking about interesting topics together. With the Scorpio influence and the Moon here, perhaps this includes almost therapy type conversations about personal issues, as well as the quirky aqua stuff. Basically being friendly supporter of the other person

The 11th house, no matter what sign is on the cusp represents what behaviors make US feel appreciated and loved. Here rather then waxing poetic about our own love for another, we are on the receiving end of someone else’s special feelings for us.

So, yeah, with Leo here, if a guy acts like he’s really fallen for you and then makes a BIG DEAL out of his feelings for you, giving you plenty of affection, and he is generous toward you in an enthusiastic kind of way… this is the kind of thing that brings a tear of gratefulness to your eye, and makes you feel so loved.

Having the signs reversed has no impact on the intrinsic meaning of the themes of that house.

THE 5TH HOUSE IS OUR PERSONAL PERFORMANCE

The 5th house represents who our inspiration is (loved one ,muse), and the impassioned, creative self expression that arises from that inspiration. The 5th house is our performance before the world, or even just one person. This is where we put our hearts on the line in the hopes of winning the loved one that we crave. With Aqua on the 5th you simply perform and love in an Aqua kind of way, as well as fall for an Aqua type.

THE 11TH HOUSE IS OUR PERSONAL AUDIENCE

The 11th house represents our audience, and the response in general that we are looking for from others. When people display the characteristics of the 11th house toward us, we recognize it as a sign that our behavior, or ‘performance’ around them has been received well and appreciated. The characteristics of the 11th show what we experience as our personal applause from those who love and admire us. With Leo on the 11th it simply means that really demonstrative shows of appreciation hit the spot for you.

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LOVE GIVEN [5th house]

Saturn in Cancer
A love for those born in the 1960s and 1950s...older people.

LOVE RECEIVED [11th house]

No planets in the 11th. Capricorn in the 11th.
Love and support and friendship from the older generation.

It's neat that Saturn and Capricorn are in the 5th and 11th respectively.

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posted May 22, 2012 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yvetterocks101     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always was interested knowing how the 5th and 11th house work.
I have Saggitarius in my 5th house ruler Jupiter in Libra not only that but Uranus, Neptune, Mercury even though it overlaps the 6thouse so its influence of 5/6. I have my northnode in saggitarius in my 5th house Jupiter Sq uranus and Neptune Cap and trine my Saturn in Aquarius.
I love to communicate and exchange ideas and basically talk about anything under the sun. A thing about me is when i talk even when im in groups i talk like if im just talking to you personally like one on one. Thats one thing about me when i communicate with a guy he need to be ready cause i love to talk about anything art astrology music, life etc. I like to feel stimilated in the brain lol i feel with that i put my brain to work and i had a soul and soul contact with an individual if that makes any sense.

In have Gemini in my 11 house Ruler is Mercury in Capicorn which is Conjunct to Uranus and Neptune. Mars in Cancer in my 11th house. I personally cant see how it plays out because mercury aspect alot in my chart it sextile pluto and square jupiter and opp my mars. One thing for sure when im surrounded by a group im not the most talkactive which i personally found that to be a irony lol. I can talk well in one to one bases but when it comes towards group i can be timid and cautious into i find someone interesting to talk and there is were i believe i brake down my barrier.

Hey lotis i love your description of the 5th and 11th house . I wanted to know in your opinion what you think of mine


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"You know that place between sleep and awake, the place where you can still remember dreaming? That's where I'll always love you, Peter Pan. That's where I'll be waiting."
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posted May 22, 2012 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is cool thanks for the info lotiswhite...
I looked @ the chart of a sp & it has only NN in the 5th
Saturn in the 7th, empty 8th & 11th house. Hmmm
No love given, No love received?

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posted May 22, 2012 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
This is cool thanks for the info lotiswhite...
I looked @ the chart of a sp & it has only NN in the 5th
Saturn in the 7th, empty 8th & 11th house. Hmmm
No love given, No love received?

Of course you’ll have love given and received in your life. Everyone does. Look at the signs on the cusps of the 11th and 5th houses… these describe how you give and receive love, and the types of people who you give love to and receive love from. Check the rulers of these houses too for more information. An empty house does not mean that that area of life is non-existent, because there is a sign on the cusp of every house showing what to expect from that area of life.

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posted May 22, 2012 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks darling I will check
(it's not mine but it's someone dear)

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posted May 22, 2012 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yvetterocks101:
I always was interested knowing how the 5th and 11th house work.
I have Saggitarius in my 5th house ruler Jupiter in Libra not only that but Uranus, Neptune, Mercury even though it overlaps the 6thouse so its influence of 5/6. I have my northnode in saggitarius in my 5th house Jupiter Sq uranus and Neptune Cap and trine my Saturn in Aquarius.
I love to communicate and exchange ideas and basically talk about anything under the sun. A thing about me is when i talk even when im in groups i talk like if im just talking to you personally like one on one. Thats one thing about me when i communicate with a guy he need to be ready cause i love to talk about anything art astrology music, life etc. I like to feel stimilated in the brain lol i feel with that i put my brain to work and i had a soul and soul contact with an individual if that makes any sense.

In have Gemini in my 11 house Ruler is Mercury in Capicorn which is Conjunct to Uranus and Neptune. Mars in Cancer in my 11th house. I personally cant see how it plays out because mercury aspect alot in my chart it sextile pluto and square jupiter and opp my mars. One thing for sure when im surrounded by a group im not the most talkactive which i personally found that to be a irony lol. I can talk well in one to one bases but when it comes towards group i can be timid and cautious into i find someone interesting to talk and there is were i believe i brake down my barrier.

Hey lotis i love your description of the 5th and 11th house . I wanted to know in your opinion what you think of mine


Yvetterocks101,

Okay here’s an interpretation of your 5th /11th…

5th house: Here you have Sag on the 5th ruled by Jupiter in Libra… Plus Uranus, Neptune, Mercury in that house…. So you fall for positive, adventurous, idealistic folks who are also charming and personable… these people are also chatty, unconventional, and kind of dreamy/romantic…. You in turn express your love by being encouraging, easygoing, and fair when relating to the one you love… and you like to share lots of conversation (Mercury) about interesting topics (Uranus), and perhaps a shared interest in music or metaphysical stuff (Neptune)…

11th house: (this house shows who you receive love from, and what makes you feel appreciated) Here you have Gemini on the 11th ruled by Mercury in Capricorn… Plus Mars in Cancer in the 11th house… So you appreciated when someone is open and communicative with you, always keeping you updated on where things are at. With Mercury in Capricorn when someone demonstrates that they take you seriously, and are willing to take on the responsibilities of a relationship with you it really tugs and your heartstrings and makes you feel loved. With Mars in Cancer in the 11th house you also appreciate someone who is direct with you and honest with you, in a sensitive kind of way, and who is not afraid to confront the real important issues with you that need to be addressed if there are any tensions in the relationship.
With Mercury in Capricorn ruling the 11th and part of Cancer in the 11th, perhaps this explains why you can feel shy in the beginning during group situations.

With the North Node in Sag in the 5th , you are learning in this life time how to be more giving of your feelings, and individuality in a positive way, rather then falling back onto your South Node of in Gemini in the 11th where you let others approach you first, and may try to submerge yourself in a group rather than ‘stand out’.

There are lots of aspects between your 5th house and 11th house planets and rulers, this shows that your 5th house and 11th house are very interlinked.

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posted May 22, 2012 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yvetterocks101     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Yvetterocks101,

Okay here’s an interpretation of your 5th /11th…

5th house: Here you have Sag on the 5th ruled by Jupiter in Libra… Plus Uranus, Neptune, Mercury in that house…. So you fall for positive, adventurous, idealistic folks who are also charming and personable… these people are also chatty, unconventional, and kind of dreamy/romantic…. You in turn express your love by being encouraging, easygoing, and fair when relating to the one you love… and you like to share lots of conversation (Mercury) about interesting topics (Uranus), and perhaps a shared interest in music or metaphysical stuff (Neptune)…

11th house: (this house shows who you receive love from, and what makes you feel appreciated) Here you have Gemini on the 11th ruled by Mercury in Capricorn… Plus Mars in Cancer in the 11th house… So you appreciated when someone is open and communicative with you, always keeping you updated on where things are at. With Mercury in Capricorn when someone demonstrates that they take you seriously, and are willing to take on the responsibilities of a relationship with you it really tugs and your heartstrings and makes you feel loved. With Mars in Cancer in the 11th house you also appreciate someone who is direct with you and honest with you, in a sensitive kind of way, and who is not afraid to confront the real important issues with you that need to be addressed if there are any tensions in the relationship.
With Mercury in Capricorn ruling the 11th and part of Cancer in the 11th, perhaps this explains why you can feel shy in the beginning during group situations.

With the North Node in Sag in the 5th , you are learning in this life time how to be more giving of your feelings, and individuality in a positive way, rather then falling back onto your South Node of in Gemini in the 11th where you let others approach you first, and may try to submerge yourself in a group rather than ‘stand out’.

There are lots of aspects between your 5th house and 11th house planets and rulers, this shows that your 5th house and 11th house are very interlinked.


Thanks lotis
Looking at it now it makes sense and your definitely on point on the type of guys I'm into and what i expect from them. Thanks again.

One more question if you have a plant cusping two houses like an example i have mercury ,uranus,neptune cusping in my 6th house even though others have told me i have it technically in my 6th house. But if you look in my chart you will see is in my 5th house but is very close towards my 6th. I wonder somehow if i will like my guy to have some of the characteristic that is in my 6th house just like you describe the planets in my 5th house other that in this case it will be both. Hopefully i made sense lol. Thanks again

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posted May 22, 2012 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Love I GIVE: My 5th house

Zero planets here. I have Lilith and Pallas though. Lilith makes aspects to a lot of my personal planets, and generational ones as well. It opposes Venus and Jupiter, trines Moon, Neptune, Uranus. I think the type of love I tend to give, if we're going by this, would be Lilith Love. The Venus opposition says this especially. I have a tendency to be extremely intense and deep emotionally w/ Scorpio Venus, but I also have a tendency to be coy, standoffish, too flirtatious and self-indulgent w/ Lilith in Taurus on the other end. The type of love I give seems to swing like a pendulum from both ends.

I always wondered how having an empty 5th changes it up for me, especially in terms of love given. With Taurus on the 5th this means ironically, that my 5th house ruler Venus in Scorpio landed in the 11th. This actually fits me pretty well. Usually I enjoy being close companions and friends who can communicate deeply and frequently (Gemini on Descendant adds to this) over just jumping into loving someone. My 5th house ruler I think makes it harder for me to open up and be trusting, but I am excellent at being friends and morphing that into a romantic relationship when it happens.


The Love I RECEIVE: My 11th house

I have 3 planets in the 11th, Juno and my NN. I have Mercury in Scorpio, Venus in Scorpio conjunct Jupiter in Scorpio, and NN sandwiched between Venus and Jupiter. Juno is also conjunct Jupiter. Mercury is more off to the side at 4 degrees. My 11th house ruler is Pluto in the 12th. I feel that when someone can get to know me quite intimately, I feel very loved. When they do not shy away from my scars and darkness, and want to get to know that darker side of me along with the lighter side, I feel appreciated. My relationships tend to be unfulfilling if they do not have this element. I detest superficiality in friendships and romance, always!

I believe with NN conjunct Venus it was in my destiny to move away from a confusing childhood where love was sometimes withheld, to learning how to accept the love and affection of other people without being wary all the time. I want to open my heart to receiving others' love, and growing spiritually from it.

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posted May 22, 2012 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This has really been a great eye opener and a learning experience! Thanks Lotis!!!

I have Cancer in H5 no planets in H5
moon in Leo in H6
(venus in cancer in h4)

Cap in H11 (only NN in H11)
Saturn in Gem conjunct IC on the H3 side.
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Well to be honest if I would have read this before, I would have disagreed.
I have never been "cancer" in relationships..
Ive never really felt it..
Until Pisces came along..
Im very "cancer" and Leo with him.. He really brings out my leo charm more than anyone I have ever met..
I just want to bring him home and wrap him up in a blanket... and take care of him...
He has a Cap Venus...

I do really want respect, and to be treated as an equal. I also really want that mental connection... There has to be that deep mental connection..
Which explains the Saturn in Gem in H3. The ruler of my 11th.

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posted May 22, 2012 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
I have Cancer in H5 no planets in H5
moon in Leo in H6
(venus in cancer in h4)

Well to be honest if I would have read this before, I would have disagreed.
I have never been "cancer" in relationships..
Ive never really felt it..
Until Pisces came along..


Thanks! Also remember that the 5th house represents what makes you fall in love. So a Cancerian-like vulnerability is part of this package for you. Even if that person is not technically a Cancer by sign, when they have some Cancerian qualities it will tug at your heart.

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posted May 22, 2012 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
The Love I GIVE: My 5th house

Zero planets here. I have Lilith and Pallas though. Lilith makes aspects to a lot of my personal planets, and generational ones as well. It opposes Venus and Jupiter, trines Moon, Neptune, Uranus. I think the type of love I tend to give, if we're going by this, would be Lilith Love. The Venus opposition says this especially. I have a tendency to be extremely intense and deep emotionally w/ Scorpio Venus, but I also have a tendency to be coy, standoffish, too flirtatious and self-indulgent w/ Lilith in Taurus on the other end. The type of love I give seems to swing like a pendulum from both ends.

I always wondered how having an empty 5th changes it up for me, especially in terms of love given. With Taurus on the 5th this means ironically, that my 5th house ruler Venus in Scorpio landed in the 11th. This actually fits me pretty well. Usually I enjoy being close companions and friends who can communicate deeply and frequently (Gemini on Descendant adds to this) over just jumping into loving someone. My 5th house ruler I think makes it harder for me to open up and be trusting, but I am excellent at being friends and morphing that into a romantic relationship when it happens.


The Love I RECEIVE: My 11th house

I have 3 planets in the 11th, Juno and my NN. I have Mercury in Scorpio, Venus in Scorpio conjunct Jupiter in Scorpio, and NN sandwiched between Venus and Jupiter. Juno is also conjunct Jupiter. Mercury is more off to the side at 4 degrees. My 11th house ruler is Pluto in the 12th. I feel that when someone can get to know me quite intimately, I feel very loved. When they do not shy away from my scars and darkness, and want to get to know that darker side of me along with the lighter side, I feel appreciated. My relationships tend to be unfulfilling if they do not have this element. I detest superficiality in friendships and romance, always!

I believe with NN conjunct Venus it was in my destiny to move away from a confusing childhood where love was sometimes withheld, to learning how to accept the love and affection of other people without being wary all the time. I want to open my heart to receiving others' love, and growing spiritually from it.


sweet-scorpion,

I love the way you broke down your post, giving examples. The insight about your nodal axis was pretty good.

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posted May 22, 2012 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yvetterocks101:
Thanks lotis
Looking at it now it makes sense and your definitely on point on the type of guys I'm into and what i expect from them. Thanks again.

One more question if you have a plant cusping two houses like an example i have mercury ,uranus,neptune cusping in my 6th house even though others have told me i have it technically in my 6th house. But if you look in my chart you will see is in my 5th house but is very close towards my 6th. I wonder somehow if i will like my guy to have some of the characteristic that is in my 6th house just like you describe the planets in my 5th house other that in this case it will be both. Hopefully i made sense lol. Thanks again



When a planet is conjunct a house cusp from the previous house they are still considered ‘in’ the house in which they are actually located. That being said, some believe that when a planet is tightly conjunct the next house cusp along, that they influence both the next house along and the one in which they are actually in. In this case they sort of influence ‘both’ houses. The orb for this is usually about 3 degrees. So if you have planets within 3 degrees of the next house along try on the interpretation for that house for those planets as well. Your may feel that one house is more strongly influenced then the other one. Since our charts are very much a subjective experience you’ll have to be the judge yourself as to which house is most strongly effected by your cusping planets.

In the 5th they are all about what gets you enthusiastic, playful, and excited. In the 6th house they will be about things that you HAVE to do as part of your daily routine, and also how you manage your health.

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posted May 23, 2012 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yvetterocks101     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
When a planet is conjunct a house cusp from the previous house they are still considered ‘in’ the house in which they are actually located. That being said, some believe that when a planet is tightly conjunct the next house cusp along, that they influence both the next house along and the one in which they are actually in. In this case they sort of influence ‘both’ houses. The orb for this is usually about 3 degrees. So if you have planets within 3 degrees of the next house along try on the interpretation for that house for those planets as well. Your may feel that one house is more strongly influenced then the other one. Since our charts are very much a subjective experience you’ll have to be the judge yourself as to which house is most strongly effected by your cusping planets.

In the 5th they are all about what gets you enthusiastic, playful, and excited. In the 6th house they will be about things that you HAVE to do as part of your daily routine, and also how you manage your health.



Alright thanks for clearing it out for me cause i was confuse on the aspect because every astrology chart that i ever done show that mercury,neptune,uranus is all in my 5th house. I have uranus ,neptune,mercury 5 degrees on my 6th house. So i agree with you on which house is more influence i personally feel the 5th house to be stronger cause the activities and hobbies I'm in have Mercury and Uranus, Neptune qualities. Then i can see how its my 6th house because i always said when i start working it have to be a job i will enjoy doing kind of like a hobby and fun lol. Anyways thanks again you was really helpful

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posted May 23, 2012 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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THE 5TH HOUSE IS OUR PERSONAL PERFORMANCE

The 5th house represents who our inspiration is (loved one ,muse), and the impassioned, creative self expression that arises from that inspiration. The 5th house is our performance before the world, or even just one person. This is where we put our hearts on the line in the hopes of winning the loved one that we crave. With Aqua on the 5th you simply perform and love in an Aqua kind of way, as well as fall for an Aqua type.

THE 11TH HOUSE IS OUR PERSONAL AUDIENCE

The 11th house represents our audience, and the response in general that we are looking for from others. When people display the characteristics of the 11th house toward us, we recognize it as a sign that our behavior, or ‘performance’ around them has been received well and appreciated. The characteristics of the 11th show what we experience as our personal applause from those who love and admire us. With Leo on the 11th it simply means that really demonstrative shows of appreciation hit the spot for you.


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posted May 23, 2012 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
5th house in Taurus, with Venus in Capricorn in 1st house square Pluto.

11th house in Scorpio, with Pluto in Libra conjunct MC, square Venus.
Uranus is technically in 10th house, but only a few minutes off 11th house cusp.

I fall in love with Venus-Saturn-Pluto,
and I feel loved by Pluto-Venus-uranus.

Interesting Saturn-uranus-tension there.

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Aha Ceridwen, I have 5th H Taurus as well, except my Venus is in Gemini in the 7th H. There is a very libra vibe to the way I give love. I am very loving and always maintain harmony and good rapport.

And my 11th H has Pluto in Scorpio. I have received either devote admiration in love that quickly turns to utter hatred if the person has wronged me in any way. I will completely cut them out my life.

But my Venus/Mars midpoint is also at 15 Taurus in the 5th H. I have a thing for Taurus, my boyfriend is a Taurus sun after all.

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My BF and I have opposite charts, by house not sign due to interceptions. So his 5th in Virgo overlaps my 11th in Libra.I'm a Virgo and he's a Libra. But interestingly, since my natal 11th house is packed and his natal 5th house packed, we come together nicely in the synastry, despite having opposite charts.

Does anyone care to take a look and provide insight into this chart? I'd be so interested to hear what you think.

(click here) My Synastry Chart

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Great thread for Interpersonal Astrology

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