posted July 01, 2011 02:48 AM            

I have to say I’m not a fan of this aspect.
I was Saturn, he was NNode – its in Aquarius if that colors the result.

Now Café Astrology state this aspect indicates relationships that just don’t get off the ground and my own experience would agree. We loved each other dearly, held similar values and goals yet we were the poster kids for Pursuer/Distancer relationships, and we did it for eight years.

I had till now assumed that dynamic was explained by both our 7th house rulers being influenced by Uranus and I’m not discounting that at all – it surely played its part but Saturn conjunct the Node doesn’t seem too far off base for me either, after all, just because the Node is where we are supposed to be going does not mean we go willingly and coupled with the persistence of Saturn…..well, hey enough said.

posted July 01, 2011 02:26 PM            

I am the saturn person and have the impression that the NN person may avoid you even if interested because he/she suspect is going to be a hard journey. thay may explain the pull and push you describe.

I hope some more post comments

posted July 01, 2011 05:13 PM            

what did I learn>

well, he learned me in the many many years AFTER we separated wat LOVE is.. he (Scorp-Sun/Venus/Mercury) never let me (and my family) down.. NEVER...even when he married and .. hm.. I haven't got that much words right now...

posted July 01, 2011 06:12 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
It was my first, longest, deepest and most intense relationship, at age 18 - 21/22.
I moved in with him within a week after we met and we lived together for 3 a 4 years.
He was 8 years older than me and I can tell now we definitely weren't on the same page.
Although I truly loved him there was this deep urge within me to be FREE, to discover the whole world! And ofcourse.. he (without knowing) hampered me on all fronts to take that course. I even wasn't aware myself that our horrible fights were an effect of my longing for freedom..

what did I learn>

well, he learned me in the many many years AFTER we separated wat LOVE is.. he (Scorp-Sun/Venus/Mercury) never let me (and my family) down.. NEVER...even when he married and .. hm.. I haven't got that much words right now...

His Aqua-Saturn 16*
My Aqua-NN 14*
My Aqua-Mars 19*

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wow Mir, thanks for sharing. wondering if in yur case his saturn aspecting your mars was the culprit.

posted July 02, 2011 03:10 PM            

The first one is my ex and son's father. A quick run-down of our synastry aspects:

His Asc conjunct my Pluto (Scorpio)
His NNode conjunct my Sun/Saturn (Scorpio)
His Neptune conjunct my Asc/Mercury/Uranus (Sagittarius), opposing my Dsc/Moon/Chiron (Gemini)
My Venus/Neptune opposite his Mars (Gemini), square his Sun (Virgo), trine his Venus (Leo)
My Jupiter square his Pluto (Libra)
My Mars square his Mercury (Libra)
My NNode (in a wide orb) opposing his NNode
His Saturn trine my Asc/Mercury/Uranus
His sun conjunct my MC
His Uranus conjunct my Pluto (that as well! )

All in all not a lot of positive aspects and even though the relationship lasted 4 years and a child came from it, I was never happy in it. He had an alcohol addiction and frustrations from not speaking his mind and both he took out on me. Sometimes physically but usually verbally. I've been called every name in the book, have experienced psychoses at least every week and have repeatedly had to get help for mental and nervous breakdowns. He didn't want to let me go, but eventually I had to desperately find a way out.

Whether there were lessons learned by him, I'm not sure. Now he says he realizes what he did to me, and says he did learn his lesson, but I doubt it to be honest.

The other example is apparently where I needed to learn a serious lesson (Chiron is involved there as well) but generally had a lot more positive aspects, still making me wonder how it could have gone so wrong at all (but I suppose one can't underestimate the power of society and our upbringing, among other things - which is a lesson I've learned). A quick run-down of the aspects:

His Neptune conjunct my Asc/Mercury/Uranus (again), opposing my Dsc/Moon/Mercury
His Sun conjunct my Uranus and (wide orb) Mercury, opposite Moon/Chiron (wide orb)
His Jupiter only conjunct my Uranus (wide orb though)
His Mercury conjunct my Venus/Neptune
His Venus conjunct my Jupiter
His NNode (Aqua) sextile my Asc/Mercury/Uranus, trine my Dsc/Moon/Chiron
His Mars sextile my Mars
His Chiron (since we're counting Chiron) trine my Asc/Mercury/Uranus, sextile my Dsc/Moon/Chiron (busy intersection, isn't it? )
His Saturn (finally there) (Gemini) conjunct (quite wide orb but within 5 degrees) my NNode (Taurus) and my Dsc/Moon/Chiron, opposite my Asc/Mercury/Uranus (yeah, I should make it into a dual carriageway before there's a traffic jam)
His Asc (Gemini) opposite my Venus/Neptune
His Moon (Virgo) square my Very Busy Intersection (don't think I need to say which one that is? )
His Pluto (Libra) sextile/trine my Very Busy Intersection, conjunct my MC (Virgo)
His Uranus sextile my Uranus (too wide orb for the others)

I have noticed that my Sun/Saturn are kind of lost and forlorn in this synastry

Anyway, the lessons I've learned here is, as it suits the NNode, that society has a far greater role in how we personally choose partners (Dsc, perhaps? ) among other things. I'll leave out details as this experience is still too fresh in my memory and I might end up ranting about it. But I must add that when we went our own ways, was almost exactly when the first Solar eclipse of this series hit my chart (and his, too) very hard. Conjunct my Moon/Chiron, as fate wants it. I assume the presence of Chiron made it quite a harsh lesson to learn, and it being in the 7th house... Well, I'll say no more. The experience I had with that man certainly taught me some lessons.

Interestingly, the man's Asc is conjunct my POF. Grr.

posted July 02, 2011 05:48 PM            

The only things that did give me some happiness, were that I actually felt safe with him (which will probably not be the case anymore now he broke my trust in him) and that I was able to speak with someone on the same intellectual level - and the sex, but that is a different matter of course

Overall I still feel like I wasn't done the justice that I deserve, and that the "relationship" was never given the chance to succeed. To this day, even when I think about that and how it was just not fair the way things went, it angers me deeply. But I do have this thing about "fair" and justice. I need things to get every fair chance that they deserve because if they don't, I just get this immense anger... Strange, because there is nothing really that connects my Jupiter (sense of justice, perhaps? ) with my Pluto square Mars.

Anyway, you're not the only one who says karmic connection: I felt the exact same thing from day one that I met him. He also said he had strong feelings for me (but later corrected himself saying they were strong feelings of friendship) and I still feel that he was trying to resist them for the fact that I was not his type - his type being a woman of his age with status (a job, an own home, a car, able to buy anything she wants) and I am just not that. Worse: I dispise status and anything that has to do with class. Something he, having grown up in a borderline upper class family which wanted to belong to the real upper class, probably didn't understand.

Anyway, I told you there would be a chance of ranting if I elaborated on the last "relationship". But in short, throughout our experience together, I always felt he didn't give our relationship the chance it deserved because I knew in my heart that it had very good potential.

posted August 21, 2011 07:10 PM            

My Saturn conjunct His North Node &
His Saturn sextile My North Node

I don't know the full meaning of these contacts yet, however we were very supportive of one another and the friendship really felt solid on many levels. I said were because we tended to be very drawn to one another and there was a lot of love between us as friends and at many times he would take steps forward to me to initiate an even deeper bond and when I responded to that he would run away for a while...then we went back to the friendship place and he would then begin to romance me and then I would start to cross the line of feeling like it was a friendship and then I would run away for a while from him...and so it went on.

There was also other things which stood in the way, but my feelings for him never waivered...if we could have got the timing right I would have happily gone into a full relationship with him. Whenever we got to an equal place where it seemed we could finally be honest with each other about how we felt an old boyfriend from my past would appear and this would make my NN/Satrun friend disappear on me again.

Very recently he deleted me from his friends list on FB without a word or reason and hasn't spoken to me since, although this happened not so long ago I am still totally confounded as to what happened. It doesn't even feel real to me as there was no reason that i knew about or anything I had done to him in any way that would make him sever the friendship...so I'm in the dark on that and don't know if he will even be back in touch with me again.

Even with saying all that I have really deep and committed feelings towards him and have no hard feelings at all...as to the Saturn/NN...maybe it demands that we face our maturity and allow for each others soul growth? But at the same time it seems that it triggers a huge feeling of this person being incredibly important and that there is a responsibility to be there for them throughout the good and hard times! That's how I felt anyway. And with that some hesitancy and inner fears rise to the surface to be looked at and overcome...but with him cutting me out of his life for absolutely no reason at all and we were always on good terms I'm still perplexed.

We also shared node wise

His North Node opposite My Sun
His Moon square My North Node
His North Node opposite My Neptune
His North Node conjunct My Chiron
His North Node conjunct My Vesta
His North Node sextile My Venus
aswell as the two contacts to Saturn.

posted August 21, 2011 07:24 PM            

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posted August 21, 2011 07:26 PM            

I'll look to see if there are others.

posted August 21, 2011 07:55 PM            

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Originally posted by fireopal:
Ami Anne I can totally see where you are coming from with that because with the friendship I had we helped each other out with our more hidden vulnerabilities and this was incredibly healing for both of us and brought us closer together. But there was a flip side to that too in that I found (and it was my Chiron in aspect to his NN) that when I was flying high he would remind me of my pain and make me feel like I haven't dealt with it yet and this brought me into emotional pain inside at times, but I don't know what effect I had on him. It really felt like a powerful friendship and it was incredibly feeling too.

With you being the NN person ~Ami Anne, did you express to him the feelings you were going through with the relationship? or did you silently keep it to yourself?

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Well it was a decades long relationship so all I can say is that Chiron defined it.If I could say one word defined it it would be pain

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posted August 21, 2011 09:25 PM            

Beyonce's NN squares Jay-Z's Saturn

Barack & Michelle obama have Saturn opposite NN double whammy (wide orbs 5)

Will smith's Saturn sextiles Jada's NN

posted August 21, 2011 10:15 PM            

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