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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59717 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 17, 2011 03:25 PM Well Darlink What signs are involved? ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 850 From: Registered: Jun 2011	posted July 17, 2011 03:28 PM Aquarius. Not good, I guess???? So..... What does Nessus signify? IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59717 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 17, 2011 03:29 PM I have to go for a bit. THIS IS A CLASSIC ABUSE SIGN. A guy's Nessus conjunct my Sun.I relived my mother from beginning to end but I healed. If she does not get permanently hurt,she can heal. Stick by her .She will need true friends when she comes off it ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59717 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 17, 2011 03:34 PM Aqua is GOOD--very good.You want air so the abuse will be mental and not physical. Mine was in Air,too ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 850 From: Registered: Jun 2011	posted July 17, 2011 03:38 PM Ah, but mental abuse can be so subtle, can't it? In a way, it keeps you hooked longer. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59717 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 17, 2011 03:49 PM quote: Originally posted by Taineberry: Ah, but mental abuse can be so subtle, can't it? In a way, it keeps you hooked longer. Totally!!!! ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59717 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 17, 2011 03:49 PM Is she SUPER hooked on him like heroin lol ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 850 From: Registered: Jun 2011	posted July 17, 2011 03:51 PM yes definitely IP: Logged
Doux R�ve Moderator Posts: 9172 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted July 17, 2011 03:53 PM quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I have to tell Doux Reve to chime in here.I am gonna link her this thread. She has SUCH a depth of maturity--WAY beyond her years. She understands emotions and emotional pain. Of all the people I have share my pain with, she comforts me the most Aww (((Ami))) Anyway, about this aspect in synastry, here's what a very good astrologer told me: - the person who has the stronger chiron natally has a much stronger attachment to the relationship - the chiron person sees the potential of the planet person and not the actual person - the planet person senses that the chiron person is "better", "bigger" than they are and are intimidated by them, but the chiron person is also more vulnerable than the planet person - the planet person unconsciously hurts the chiron person to have the upper hand - it's un unequal relationship, with power plays - the chiron person wants to save the relationship and the planet person wants to have control There can be healing because both are sensitive to each other's needs but most of the time there is too much pain. Such relationships often show the chiron person that they need something better, and that they should walk away from the relationship because it causes too much suffering. Hope this helps some! IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59717 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 17, 2011 03:53 PM quote: Originally posted by Taineberry: yes definitely YEP Where else is Nessus and Dejaneria? Also, where is Eros? ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 850 From: Registered: Jun 2011	posted July 17, 2011 04:05 PM Her Eros conjuncts his Psyche. His Nessus is also sextile her Jupiter and square her Chiron His Dej is sextile her moon and trine her Venus and square her Jupiter Her Nessus opposes his Mars and trines his Jupiter/Uranus. Her Dej trines his Neptune and sextiles his Pluto. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59717 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 17, 2011 04:14 PM Anything happening with NN s? She will need a friend is all I can say.People drop you cuz they can see the guy is no good for you and you can't. Then they get angry and drop you. I am not saying they are bad to drop you. People feel helpless to stop a train wreck lol ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59717 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 17, 2011 04:24 PM Well where is the Child Asteroid with them. I had this conjunct the guys moon.That was powerful too. Oh I almost forgot What do they have Moon/Pluto, Venus/Pluto and Mars/Pluto ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 850 From: Registered: Jun 2011	posted July 17, 2011 04:24 PM Yes - didn't notice at first. His Dej is conjunct her South Node. Her Dej is conjunct her own North Node so.. also both DeJ's are in opposition on her Nodal axis. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59717 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted July 17, 2011 04:24 PM Well where is the Child Asteroid with them. I had this conjunct the guys moon.That was powerful too. Oh I almost forgot What do they have Moon/Pluto, Venus/Pluto and Mars/Pluto ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 6710 From: Registered: Mar 2010	posted July 17, 2011 04:33 PM quote: Originally posted by Doux R�ve: Aww (((Ami))) Anyway, about this aspect in synastry, here's what a very good astrologer told me: - the person who has the stronger chiron natally has a much stronger attachment to the relationship - the chiron person sees the potential of the planet person and not the actual person - the planet person senses that the chiron person is "better", "bigger" than they are and are intimidated by them, but the chiron person is also more vulnerable than the planet person - the planet person unconsciously hurts the chiron person to have the upper hand - it's un unequal relationship, with power plays - the chiron person wants to save the relationship and the planet person wants to have control There can be healing because both are sensitive to each other's needs but most of the time there is too much pain. Such relationships often show the chiron person that they need something better, and that they should walk away from the relationship because it causes too much suffering. Hope this helps some! I have a strong natal Chiron, I wasnt attached to the relationship, I felt trapped and stuck.. and I gave my word.. I did feel the need to walk away, but not because of suffering.. I dont felt like I suffered.. I just felt like I couldnt be the knight in shinning amour. I was tired of him wanting me to help him with something...One thing after another.. IP: Logged
Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 850 From: Registered: Jun 2011	posted July 17, 2011 04:33 PM Her Venus trine his Pluto; his Venus quintile her Pluto(both tight). Her Pluto square his Mars Her Pluto opposite his Moon; His Moon sextile her Pluto. Her Child is conjunct her Pluto, so it will have the same aspects as her Pluto His Dej. is conjunct her South Node. Her Dej. is conjunct her own North Node so.. also both DeJ's are in opposition on her Nodal axis. IP: Logged
Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 850 From: Registered: Jun 2011	posted July 18, 2011 03:20 AM quote: Originally posted by Doux R�ve: - the planet person senses that the chiron person is "better", "bigger" than they are and are intimidated by them, but the chiron person is also more vulnerable than the planet person - the planet person unconsciously hurts the chiron person to have the upper hand Ami / Doux Reve - With the Chiron aspects and the other Pluto aspects I have described, would you say that she is treading into dangerous territory? Is there any chance that this could be good for her? Ami - how did someone's Nessus feel on your Sun? Was it purposeful abuse, or did the way he interacted with you make you feel exposed in some way, so that you had to face your own wounds? And how did your Sun affect him? I don't really understand Nessus/ Dejanira, especially Dejanira. It seems to me like the Nessus person represents the "abuser", but can it also be positive? If so, how? And how does someone's Dejanira affect the other person. Eg. If it is on her South Node as in this example. IP: Logged
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 331 From: Australia Registered: May 2011	posted July 18, 2011 03:46 AM Hi Taineberry, Is it possible to see the charts at all? IP: Logged
Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 850 From: Registered: Jun 2011	posted July 18, 2011 03:51 AM Can't do that, but I'm thinking - maybe the Deja aspects on the Nodes indicate that she may have hurt him in the past (or a past life) as his Deja is on her South Node, and now maybe it is payback time with her Deja on her own North Node???? How does Deja defend herself if this is the case? IP: Logged
tuxedoMask Knowflake Posts: 1234 From: Registered: May 2011	posted November 08, 2011 05:45 PM f*ck chiron! IP: Logged
Chiemi Moderator Posts: 1982 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012	posted July 17, 2013 12:48 PM Bump. IP: Logged
Doux R�ve Moderator Posts: 9172 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted July 17, 2013 01:05 PM My sister and her SO have it and they're happy together. knocks on wood IP: Logged
Aurora_girl1990 Knowflake Posts: 166 From: kuala lumpur,malaysia Registered: Feb 2013	posted January 26, 2015 03:07 AM What about in the case of a father/daughter relationships?I have this with my father: My moon conjunct his chiron exact and my chiron conjunct his sun by 4 degrees. What does it mean?Does it work both ways then? IP: Logged
Aurora_girl1990 Knowflake Posts: 166 From: kuala lumpur,malaysia Registered: Feb 2013	posted January 26, 2015 03:15 AM What about in the case of a father/daughter relationships?I have this with my father: My moon conjunct his chiron exact and my chiron conjunct his sun by 4 degrees. What does it mean?Does it work both ways then? IP: Logged

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