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Topic: Novile aspect
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Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 939 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 21, 2011 05:11 AM
I'm having a bash at trying to understand the Novile aspect. This is what I have come up with so far, but any comments are welcome.Novile: 40º, 80º (binovile), 160º (quadranovile). Noviles describe where a person will experience spiritual initiation events in their life based on the completion of karmic experience, provided that the owner of the aspect is aware enough to consciously absorb this. A high degree of spiritual maturity is therefore a prerequisite if one is to benefit from this aspect. By “initiation” I mean that the individual will go through experiences which lead to spiritual epiphanies that will greatly expand their awareness and will result in spiritual growth. The result is a feeling of being whole and complete in themselves. In the areas of life described by the planets involved in the aspect, a transcendent understanding of people and life can develop. As the individual’s awareness expands and evolves, they will display an ability to live life to the fullest, with joy and caring and warmth, and they will possess a most exquisite sensitivity, selflessness and compassion. The planets involved point to the elements in your life that will manifest a sense “mystical wholeness” or “knowing on a deep soul level” . You connect with your higher self through these aspects – the ultimate inner marriage so which facilitates growing into what you are becoming. In synastry, it is well known that in Indian astrology, that the novile series indicates marriage and the ideal or soul mate. This makes sense in terms of what has been said above, as we are likely to be most attracted to the kind of person whose qualities pull us towards a sense of feeling complete in ourselves. Through them, we are helped to become and know ourselves. The chemistry is profound and deep in the areas of life indicated by the planets involved in the novile, and can be a real turn-on. These contacts can not only be found between intimate partners, but also between cherished family members, best friends and pets. The contact also comes with a warning – for couples where karmic debt has not yet been cleared, the novile connection may not lead to the kind of idyllic sense of completeness that we all dream about, instead it may provide further deeply challenging evolutionary opportunities that carry the past shared and sometimes complicating experiences of many incarnations and dimensions together. Ie. There is a karmic component to this contact as well, if the couple still have things to work out between them. However the ultimate purpose of the contact remains unchanged : ie. To help each other to become whole and complete souls. This, by definition, means that the relationship between them cannot work if it is co-dependant. IP: Logged |
starcrossedleo Knowflake Posts: 378 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 21, 2011 08:44 PM
Do you use an orb on these?IP: Logged |
starcrossedleo Knowflake Posts: 378 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 21, 2011 08:53 PM
I found that the orb would be one degree and 2 degrees for sun or moon.IP: Logged |
racole12 Knowflake Posts: 1159 From: the world is my home! Registered: Feb 2010
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posted July 21, 2011 11:04 PM
I had to look at my chart... 2 degree orbSun N Venus (ruler of 5th) Moon N ASC Moon biN Jupiter (ruler of 7th) Mars N Juno Mars N Uranus (ruler of 9th) ASC N Jupiter ASC biN NN I looked at my SO and mine composite to my natal planets for these aspects... it kind of unnerved me.
My Sun N Composite Venus and Sun My Moon N Composite Jupiter My Venus N Composite Neptune My Venus biN Composite Venus and Sun My Mars biN Comp NN My ASC N Comp Moon My ASC qN Comp Mars My MC N Comp Venus and Sun My MC biN Comp Neptune
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Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 939 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 22, 2011 01:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by starcrossedleo: I found that the orb would be one degree and 2 degrees for sun or moon.
Yep, sorry, I meant to include that! I would agree with the orbs you have suggested. I think the orbs have to be very tight. IP: Logged |
Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 939 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 22, 2011 12:00 PM
Racole12 - You have some stunning Noviles there in natal and composite! Especially Sun/Venus .... Moon/Jupiter. How have you experienced them?I have a quote I have a hunch you may relate to : "In a true you-and-I relationship, we are present mindfully, nonintrusively, the way we are present with things in nature.We do not tell a birch tree it should be more like an elm. We face it with no agenda, only an appreciation that becomes participation: 'I love looking at this birch' becomes 'I am this birch' and then 'I and this birch are opening to a mystery that transcends and holds us both." — David Richo
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 06, 2016 11:23 AM
*bump*Is everyone aware of noviles? They are like mini-trines  Novile readings here: http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-aspects/novile-9th-harmonic.php My sun @ 15° Capricorn novile Venus @ 6° Sagittarius. quote: Sun novile Venus: Obtaining joy and peace from appreciation of self; rejoicing in one's ability to please and attract other people; tending to compacency about one's attractiveness. (A common aspect among actors and performers with sex appeal.)
This makes a lot more sense to me in the context of growth: quote: Noviles describe where a person will experience spiritual initiation events in their life based on the completion of karmic experience, provided that the owner of the aspect is aware enough to consciously absorb this. A high degree of spiritual maturity is therefore a prerequisite if one is to benefit from this aspect.
Yes, I have felt that I first had to learn to see myself in a more spiritual light, to even feel entitled to claim any kind of beauty, inner or outer. With respect to outer beauty I think it's largely a matter of choice: having a vision, style, determination about it. Can be a way of expressing dignity (in the case of a Capricorn sun, who wants that. ) Re: Synastry My Mars is binovile (80°) my husband's Venus.  IP: Logged |
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posted March 06, 2016 11:30 AM
^^ Mini-trine is a nice way to describe it. And I suppose they gain even more prominence when you look at them in the context of the 9th harmonic chart.I think the noviles, semisquares and such that get neglected are actually pretty potent. If something is 40° or 45° away, isn't that physically closer? So, in a literal sense, the effect their respective magnetic fields (or energies) have on each other must also be significant. IP: Logged |
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posted March 06, 2016 01:40 PM
They never have interpretations for noviles involving the north node. I have Pluto novile the north node and Mars novile neptune . Someone said that it means you let your intuition guide your actions ,i find that to be true IP: Logged |
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posted March 06, 2016 03:00 PM
I love them. Faith. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 06, 2016 07:03 PM
^ Me toooooHeck yeah, I'll take a sun-Venus aspect!  quote: Originally posted by Elysia: I think the noviles, semisquares and such that get neglected are actually pretty potent. If something is 40° or 45° away, isn't that physically closer? So, in a literal sense, the effect their respective magnetic fields (or energies) have on each other must also be significant.
I love this idea!! Brilliant, Elysia. Well that could explain why my Mars semisquare Saturn is so...frictional. Tight, small, grinding annoyance, putting action to a halt many times. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 4122 From: love lives forever Registered: Mar 2014
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posted March 06, 2016 07:54 PM
Sun novile Venus is a beautiful aspect for self love, yes! My recent client has this novile 0'00 and she sends out massive care packages to people encouraging self care... she is a gem... with Cancer Sun/Moon on the midheaven opposite Mars no less!Yes semisquares are very powerful. Noviles are huge, they're just massive to me in terms of import. I don't have many natally but again and again in synastry and composite I see the explaining things crystal clear that ought to be there and aren't shown elsewhere. For instance in composite my lover and his waning recent love affair person (complicated) have Sun novile Venus. He and I have a good deal of noviles, his Sun novile my North Node is our tightest aspect... i definitely feel a strong rresonance with him especially when we're both really tuned in and activated. When our relationship isn't vibrating as high it isn't s apparent but it is clear to me he's here to help in a big way. His Jupiter novile my ascendant/Vesta and my Jupiter novile his Sun/Vesta... brings Vesta matters very much to the forefront. My Saturn novile his Midheaven means if we can shape up and do the hard work there will be a very concrete manifestation of prestige and all things Capricorn and Midheaven... imo.. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 06, 2016 08:01 PM
I love your interpretations, yungang.  quote: Noviles are huge, they're just massive to me in terms of import. I don't have many natally but again and again in synastry and composite I see the explaining things crystal clear that ought to be there and aren't shown elsewhere.
^^ YES
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Electro DGX Moderator Posts: 2186 From: Mars Registered: Jul 2015
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posted March 07, 2016 10:37 AM
I've got Mars Novile Pluto. Mars 00d Scorpio and Pluto 9 (55 min) d SagittariusWonder what this means. IP: Logged |
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posted March 07, 2016 10:46 AM
@Faith:Hehe, thanks... So yeah, you see what I mean..! I have Sun semi-square Venus, exact. Initially I almost completely disregarded it. But I stumbled onto an in-depth description and I was like, whoa. So, there definitely is something to these aspects after all. And now that I read about their angles and further descriptions, it makes sense.. @Yungang: That's a nice interpretation. What shade of meaning exactly do you think is represented by the novile? Is it about a reaching-for-potential? IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 07, 2016 11:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by Electro DGX: I've got Mars Novile Pluto. Mars 00d Scorpio and Pluto 9 (55 min) d SagittariusWonder what this means.
quote: Mars novile Pluto: Rejoicing in one's capacity for hard work and ability to push one's physical resources to thier limits; rejoicing in one's ability to affect others with one's dedication.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-aspects/novile-9th-harmonic.php IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 07, 2016 11:38 AM
@Elysia ~ Sun semisquare Venus sounds difficult but I've known some people with that aspect and I'd say, maybe, it makes a person extra caring, because they learned how to love the hard way? So, extra dedicated. IP: Logged |
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posted March 07, 2016 11:42 AM
Semisquares are profound I think, they generate quite a bit of energy. NOt necessarily bad though, but they spur you to action in a Sun-Venus-sense. Actually the ONLY aspect between Sun an Venus that can get Venus to get off her lazy buzz and DO something for a change! (speaking of the natal obviously)
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posted March 07, 2016 11:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: @Elysia ~ Sun semisquare Venus sounds difficult but I've known some people with that aspect and I'd say, maybe, it makes a person extra caring, because they learned how to love the hard way? So, extra dedicated.
I think it explains some of my self-esteem issues. And makes me even more temperamental in some ways. >_< Still have a hard time loving & accepting myself for who I am. But well, in time, maybe.. With other people, yes.. I do tend to go a little over-the-top when it comes to being involved with people. (Not necessarily a bad thing, but it has its consequences). Perhaps it's a mix of this and other factors in my chart. This place had a pretty dang good description of some of the struggles. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 07, 2016 11:55 AM
@Ceri Preach  Elysia is a good example of that, she goes around making people feel better.  Whereas I just try to win and collect compliments, either by being fantastic (not my usual method, takes too much energy) or lavishing people with compliments and just expecting them in return, like having money in the bank.  kidding Actually I sincerely appreciate others and find it easy to like people...possibly sun novile Venus just making that easy for me...or it's something else in my chart. IP: Logged |
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posted March 07, 2016 12:00 PM
Get Venus off her butt. Ceri!!! Faith, whaddya mean too much energy? Leo Asc's don't need to try to be fantastic, they just are.  IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 07, 2016 12:10 PM
Thanks for that article Elysia!*hug*  Some of those descriptions, I relate to so strongly, that I felt sure I must have the semi-square, too. But the longer it went on, I could indeed tell the difference. Seems quite problematic ~ but I wouldn't have guessed, except sometimes "trial by fire" makes the best people. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 07, 2016 12:13 PM
quote: Leo Asc's don't need to try to be fantastic, they just are.
And....?? *listens intently for next compliment* . . . .
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 07, 2016 12:14 PM
JUST KIDDING  Love you girls, it's a beautiful day so I'm heading out! See you later! 
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posted March 07, 2016 12:17 PM
...and after they're done dazzling us mere mortals, *hair-flip* and gone in a flash of sunshine.  Byee Faithy. IP: Logged |