posted August 05, 2011 12:04 PM            

Anyway Grand trines exist of three trines, which are blue lines between planets in signs of the same element:

I see one Grand trine:
Saturn - Neptune - Venus

BTW astro.com partly uses astronomical big orbs, so you need to have an eye on this. In this case I think the orbs are acceptable:
Neptune: 16 Sag
Saturn: 11 Leo
Venus: 18 Leo

The triangles with red lines are usually T-squares, existing of an opposition and a square.

You seem to have one T-square:

Saturn opposes Mars and both square Uranus
Saturn: 11 Leo
Mars: 12 Aquarius
Uranus: 11 Scorpio

Orbs are very close (only 1 degree tops), so I think this might be a very significant shape / constellations.All three corners will react to transiting planets simultaneously.

You have a Kite:
That is a Grand trine, and one of the planets making the grand trine has an opposition to another planet.
In this case, it is Venus on 18 Aries opposing Pluto on 13 Libra.

You also have a mystical rectangle or envelope, yes.

This shape consists on two trines, two sextiles and two oppositions inside:
Saturn on 11 Leo trines Venus on 18 Aries
Pluto on 13 Libra trines Mars on 12 Aquarius

Saturn on 11 Leo sextiles Pluto on 13 Libra
Venus on 18 Aries sextiles Mars on 12 Aquarius. 6 degree for a sextile might seem generous, but since this is a shape with mujltiple planets involved, I would accept it.

Saturn on 11 Leo opposes Mars on 12 Aquarius
Pluto on 13 LIbra opposes Venus on 18 Aries

These oppositions are t he backbone of your envelope, where the energy comes from. In your case even more so as all these chartpattern interlock.
I think the interlocking planets will be most important, for example Saturn being involved in all three shapes.

Additionally you have a Minor (grand) trine; this is if two planets are in trine and both are sextile a third planet. It is not really a grand trine, it is a minor shape. (happens more frequently, might be significant though).

Saturn trines Neptune and both sextile Pluto

There is a second minor trine:
Neptune trine Venus and both sextile Mercury (and probably also Mars).

That`s it as far as I can see it.

EDIT:
I focused on the major planets and left out the asteroids.
Of course if you include asteroids you may have more shapes.
It`s not that rare then anymore though. With so many asteroids some will always make certain patterns / configurations.

posted August 05, 2011 01:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

EDIT:
I focused on the major planets and left out the asteroids.
Of course if you include asteroids you may have more shapes.
It`s not that rare then anymore though. With so many asteroids some will always make certain patterns / configurations.

It`s certainly interesting to look at WHICH asteroids combine and build a "group" though, the symbolism and so on. Just keep in mind that everyone has some asteroids forming a Grand trine or whatever.

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Hi Ceridwen,

posted August 05, 2011 02:26 PM            

Personally I think you can of course use the asteroids as well; not having made up my mind about the calculated points yet, but since we interprete them, why not?

It`s just not the traditional way, and of course it means that the existence of a configuration is not so significant in itself (for just its existence), but the significance is in checking which symbols are grouped together.

I find it interesting and worthy of an interpretation. I call these multiple planetary aspects "closed circuits" and tend to see them as an "operating unit".

For example:
In my chart I have a Kiteformation of:

Pluto on 9 Libra trine Pallas on 9 Aquarius trine South Node on 9 Gemini/ DESC 7 Gemini, oppospite ASC/Neptune/NN on 7-10 Sagittarius.

I don`t think it is something unique that I have a Kite, BUT what is unique and significant for my personality is that Pluto, Neptune, Pallas, and even the ASC-DESC and nodal axis are interconnected. They are working "together".

In anotrher chart there may also be a Kite, but maybe it will consist of Pallas, Mars, Uranus and MC. It will be very different from mine.

posted August 05, 2011 03:14 PM            

Could you tell me what is the ruler of my chart or how do I interpret this and would I be a saturnian person as in you had mentioned there was alot of saturn contacts? Another question what is the ruler of my 7th house or how do you interpret what is the ruler of an individual house? Sorry for all the info sucking, these are just questions Im dying to ask.....

posted August 06, 2011 05:05 PM            

a bit impatient, aren´t we?

ruler of your chart is Pluto, or Mars, as both planets rule Scorpio on your ASC.
So Pluto or Mars would be significant in your personality and in the way you approach others.

With Pluto in 11th house frienships might be extremely important for you; Mars in Aquarius would emphasise this theme.
(could also have to do with humanitarian ideals).

Mars as ancient ruler of ASC is in 3rd house, so very communicative, maybe in unusual ways sometimes (Aquarius!).

The ruler of ASC often indicates the area we are instinctively drawn to and where we express ourselves instantly without reflecting about it.

Saturnian person? Hmm, don´t know. Well, Saturn is very significant in your aspects, so it could very well be that you are a Saturnian person.
But,there are no conjunctions of Saturn to personal planets, no planets (except for Ceres) in 10th house, no Cappy- planets.
Still it`s very intervowen in your chart, so it will still have an influence in your personality.

But it could also (maybe simultaneously) be, that you experience Saturn from the outside, either in the form of "teachers" of any kind (Saturn is in 9th house) or even through lovers: Saturn opposes Mars, which rules the 5th house of love affairs.

(it is only one possible expression; could also mean that you sometimes feel blocked in this regard (maybe even through long distances or different beliefsystems or something like that); positively it could indicate that you take your love affairs very seriously, even though on first glance you may come across as chatty and communicative and easygoing in this regard: ruler of 5th house in Aquarius in 3rd house). The Saturn opposition contradicts that "easy going-ness" definitely. As do several other configurations (ASC in Scorpio; ASC-ruler Pluto opposing Venus in 5th house; ruler of 5th house opposite Saturn etc.)

Ruler of your 7th house is Venus, and it is in Aries in 5th house (looks like a pretty relationship oriented chart to me).

Every planet is the natural ruler of a certain sign; if this sign iso n the cusp of a house, the natural ruler of the sign becomes the ruler of the house.

In your case:

ASC Scorpio - ruler Pluto
2nd house Sagittarius - ruler Jupiter
intercepted in 2nd house is Cappy - ruler Saturn
(jupiter and Saturn then both become houserulers)
3rd house: Aquarius: ruler Uranus
etc.

The "alphabet" is this:

1st house - Aries - Mars
2nd house- Taurus - Venus
3rd house - Gemini - Mercury
4th house - Cancer - Moon
5th house - Leo - Sun
6th house - Virgo - Mercury
7th house - Libra - Venus
8t house - Scorpio - Pluto
9th house - Sagittarius - Jupiter
10th house - Cappy - Saturn
11th house - Aquarkus - Uranus
12th house - Pisces - Neptune

Before Uranus, Neptune and Pluto were discovered,
Mars, Jupiter and Saturn also ruled their planets:

Scorpio: Mars
Aquarius: Saturn
Pisces: Jupiter

posted August 09, 2011 01:19 PM            

one of my ex partners charts. Above are all the grand trines so in answer to your question, according to clairvision switchboard yes it is possible.