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Lonake
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posted August 29, 2011 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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HThese websites say these things about this aspect which I have felt are true, just lile I have felt everything else astrology websites say about aspects is true..

If all you do is read aspect interps online or in a book and think that they will be interpreted exactly as stated there then you will never be anything more than a novice. Other people have different life experiences, different natals, etc. that respond in various ways. It's not cut and dried.

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posted August 29, 2011 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, if you post your birth dates, I'll try to give you an answer.

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posted August 29, 2011 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake, I don't agree at all. This not only works for me but for my friends too. Do we all have a "thing" for sun-mercury-venus stelliums? What about the astrologer whotold me this inthe first place. Is he a novice if he was able to describe in full detail my relationship with my friends, boyfriends, and crushes?

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posted August 29, 2011 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If that's where you're at on your path to learning astrology then go for it, eventually you'll see one size doesn't fit all.

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posted August 29, 2011 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's arrogant of you to call me a novice.

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posted August 29, 2011 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The last post I wrote wasn't rotten enough for you so you went to harp on another one.
Have fun with your cookbook.

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posted August 29, 2011 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
? Well, that's what you said, didn't you. That's fine. I still think you're being arrogant, but. whatever.

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posted August 29, 2011 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

"These websites say these things about this aspect which I have felt are true, just lile I have felt everything else astrology websites say about aspects is true.."

I found some things I've read on websites not to be that accurate after all.
Aspects are complicated and I believe that there is still alot to be learned in Astrology. Every Astrology student has to cut his own path.

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posted August 30, 2011 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SmilingHeart =) thank you

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posted August 30, 2011 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iliketurtles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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i've always thought shes a taurus moon so that would mean her asc could be sagi/cap/aqu/pis or aries...

aside from two of my very best childhood friends (one a boy, one a girl) PLUS my fave cousin - everyone else that i've had sun/venus conjunction in a composite with actually get on my nerves lol. we get along okay but i definatley do not love them lol not even sun/venus conjunction or trine in synastry has helped. sorry to object to the traditional interperatation.

my bff's and my cousin each hit my IC and sun/moon midpoint, aspects i feel are more responsible for the love i felt for them. the traditional sun/venus descriptions fits perfectly in their cases.

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posted August 30, 2011 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aya,

"Also because we interpret what we feel quite subjectively, we might not read a feeling for what it is and treat it with the misconception that it is something else (compassion versus love, for example)."

That was what I meant. To me love is always true, but sometimes what we may think of as love, may not be love. That`s all.
I rather talk about passionate, romantic, brotherly, passing, lasting, or whatever kind of love. That tells me more than just adding the adjective "true".

Every feeling is true. (our mind might not just recognize it for what it is).

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posted August 30, 2011 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Back to the original topic:

I think they have some very passionate aspects with her Mars conjunct his DESC, square his Mars and opposite his Pluto.
But these also make for some fiery arguments I think.

The Martian theme also continues in the progressions.
His pr Moon conjuncts her pr Mars (2a)
his pr Mars quares her pr Mars (1,5 a)
her pr Mars squares his Sun exactly

Are they even still together?

And let`s not forget they are really young; I can`t really see them last at that point in their development, though the attraction might be quite strong.

There is such a strong emphasis on her Mars - so maybe she comes across to him as feisty and fiery, but over time she also could be seen as overbearing and overly demanding.
Or he really likes it.

Anyway, it doesn`t look like a very smooth, calm interaction, that is for sure. Sparks do fly there.

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posted August 30, 2011 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Well, if you post your birth dates, I'll try to give you an answer.

If you can see them, this is probably easier. Saves you having to draw them yourself

(if it doesn't work... : http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/ayaofthesorrows/horoscope%20charts/compandnatalsmeandmichael.gif )

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posted August 30, 2011 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
This not only works for me but for my friends too. Do we all have a "thing" for sun-mercury-venus stelliums?


Eh... I don't want to butt in to anything but... Yes, that does happen. You always subconsciously find and hold on to people who have a lot in common with you and you would be surprised at what your brain is capable of registering of another's personality without you even realizing.

It is no accident that friends tend to have so much in common. Having the same reaction to a certain composite aspect could very well be one of those things you all have in common. In that case, that certain reaction pattern is so much more likely to pop up more than once with both you and your friends, but a circle of friends is a very closed target group to do "statistical" experiments on. You'd have a better overall view if you put together a group of random strangers from all walks of life and look at the same thing there.


Anyway, moving on...

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posted August 30, 2011 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Aya,

[b]"Also because we interpret what we feel quite subjectively, we might not read a feeling for what it is and treat it with the misconception that it is something else (compassion versus love, for example)."

That was what I meant. To me love is always true, but sometimes what we may think of as love, may not be love. That`s all.
I rather talk about passionate, romantic, brotherly, passing, lasting, or whatever kind of love. That tells me more than just adding the adjective "true".

Every feeling is true. (our mind might not just recognize it for what it is).

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Can't argue with that whether they are caused by outside forces or manipulation or mind-altering substances, the fact that you feel them does make them real by definition.

I do find it sad that a lot of people in the world fail to recognise their feelings for what they are. And, I suppose when I hear "true love", I think of "honest" love, a feeling which isn't mistaken for something else

Also, I agree that other adjectives say so much more about the type of feeling than "true". I suppose we can blame the media some way or another for indoctrinating the term "true love" into our brains?

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