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Topic: The most loving relationships of your life: Tight Composite Sun c. Venus and Mercury
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IndigoDirae
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posted May 31, 2012 02:23 PM
  
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Originally posted by rajin:
Thanks Indigo. I have been trying to understand him and make every effort to make this work. I thought if someone looked at the divine map of our lives maybe it would offer more clues and help me help him and myself.
I appreciate all your inputs. They are very enlightening.
Oh, I wrote that last night before more of the usual Venus RX blow-ups in my life since mid-May. No one had said anything yet, and Ceri certainly hadn't. My 'input' is minor and silly in comparison. She covered everything.  I KNOW how hard it is, though. I really do. Our Scorp 'super-stellium' is in the 1H, with Pluto-Saturn-Atlantis-Lust Libra stellium in the 12H ... (27*-29*) ... search 'complicated' in Wikipedia, I think we come up ... at least in the top 10. -A.
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rajin
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posted May 31, 2012 02:56 PM
Ceri, Ras, Indigo,
I appreciate all of your inputs. You have been very kind and generous with your time and knowledge for a complete stranger. I learnt a lot from the thoughtful analysis, especially Ceri's. Her perspective of looking at things and taking into account every minute detail is astounding.
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Ceridwen
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posted May 31, 2012 03:16 PM
Raijn,
thank you for your appreciation.I`ve been thinking about Uranus in your composite, but I feel like the answer lies within YOU (and him of course). I can only give my perspective here, and I find that Uranus works best without any conditioning. No expectations. a friendship between equal individual partners, instead of a merging into one unit, acting as one.
But a constant flow of coming together - detaching a bit - coming back.
Maybe that is just the style of the relationship.
It is of course a problem if you are hurt by this and wants intimacy/ closeness all the time, you know like magnets clinging to each other. I don´t think that is possible with Uranus there.
There will need to be some space between you at times, but you probably are always coming back to each other and can share everything you experienced with each other. Also I was thinking Uranus in 6th house could also mean,w orking together in an Uranian business? Technology? Astrology? Something out of the world crazy and new? IP: Logged |
rajin
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posted May 31, 2012 03:28 PM
Ceri,
You deserve every accolade possible for being such a great teacher and patient listener.
Will the Uranus be a big deterrent in a romantic relationship? Will it be the deal breaker? He keeps going away coming back but with the clear understanding that what I feel for him is not mere friendship. I would like to be his friend and confidant but I want his love, the closeness of a marriage, the feeling that I can walk up to him anytime I want and be held close or hold him close for no reason but just because I love him and vice versa.
Will that be possible? I am willing to give him space in the relationship and I have been waiting for 9 years for him to realize that being together does not mean loss of freedom but the choice to be himself when he wants but having someone to have his back at all cost.
How do I resolve this? Is there no solution to this? Do the other factors not outweigh the Uranus Gordian knot?IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted May 31, 2012 03:30 PM
Indigo,I can`t promise you when I will come around doing it, but would gladly have a look. Not sure it will be the same as Raijn, as every chart has its own pattern and I guess only certain pattern´s "speak" to me.
But I will try. I need:
the composite
both natal charts only Placidus system
asteroids/ additional points:
Karma, Ceres, Juno, Vesta, Pallas, h13 (true Black Moon), Atlantis
Best put it in my thread on the asteroid forum though, as you want a karmic perspective on it, right?
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RunAroundScreaming
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posted May 31, 2012 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by rajin:
Yes. it is an on off thing. he goes away then comes back. this time he is letting me in a bit more but any talk of feelings scares him. i care abt u he says i like u very much but he still hesitates. plus it is a long distance relationship. what should i learn from the charts to improve our relationship?thanks for the insights
I have seen this aspect in the composites of on/off relationships many times. It and composite sun in negative aspect to uranus are almost always dealbrakers. Sorry. It will be very very hard to make it a stable relationship. Just keep that in mind, but do keep trying.
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rajin
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posted May 31, 2012 04:38 PM
thanks Ras,
I am still hoping for a miracle. Who knows maybe he will overcome the fear and decide I am worth the risk? LOL.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted June 01, 2012 09:06 AM
Rajin,I can totally understand that you crave for more closeness and a conventional form of relationship. But I am doubtful this will happen with that uranus there. Not just because it is uranus, but because the only aspects it makes are an opposition to Moon/Chiron, which is erratic and exciting at best, and the other aspect it makes is a trine to Mars, which is in Aquarius, so ANOTHER Uranian influence. Speaking unastrologically, I was thinking that if you have been waiting for 9 years in vain for this, it seems to be quite unlikely that he is going to come round. On the other hand who knows?
uranus is always unpredictable and maybe it is going to happen when you expect it the least? IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted June 01, 2012 09:38 AM
Ceri, can I ask you a question?
How does it manifest when you have two opposing energies in a composite? In this case, both Uranus AND Saturn in the 7th?
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rajin
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posted June 01, 2012 09:56 AM
Thanks Ceri,
I keep hoping that Uranus would have an higher octave which is conducive for him to change his mind. Till now the only predictable thing about his behavior has been that he runs the minute things get serious. If Uranus is that unpredictable, and I am thinking he will follow the same pattern as before, maybe he will surprise me and actually stay on.LOL.
Lord know, I am due for a break, had a very hard life for the past 10 years, moving to another country, this mess with him, working for unethical bosses and my dad being diagnosed with prostate cancer. surely I must have paid my dues by now for whatever wrongs I did, knowingly or unknowingly.IP: Logged |
Moonfish
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posted June 02, 2012 03:17 AM
I've only exprienced semisextiles, and quincunx Sun-Venus in composite. However I have exprienced a Sun-Mercury conjunction, and that person was easy to talk to despite having Mars sq Mercury in synastry. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted June 02, 2012 03:42 AM
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Originally posted by Moonfish:
I've only exprienced semisextiles, and quincunx Sun-Venus in composite. However I have exprienced a Sun-Mercury conjunction, and that person was easy to talk to despite having Mars sq Mercury in synastry.
I've recently found out that Sun in minor aspect to Venus is interpreted the same as the conjunction, so technically, if there's a minor aspect in the composite between the sun and venus, and the sun or venus is also conjunct mercury, then it's a love stellium  ------------------
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Ceridwen
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posted June 02, 2012 05:02 AM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I've recently found out that Sun in minor aspect to Venus is interpreted the same as the conjunction, so technically, if there's a minor aspect in the composite between the sun and venus, and the sun or venus is also conjunct mercury, then it's a love stellium
Well, if we even allow minor aspects between Sun and Venus, doesn´t almost everything become a love stellium then?
Maybe not literally everything, but I think by expanding the options that much, it becomes more rare to NOT have such a stellium, espcially since neither Venus nor Mercury can move really far from Sun (even in composite, though here of course we have to take the opposition into account as well).
I might take into account the semisquare maybe, but semisextile? I don`t think so. Not for me at least.
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RunAroundScreaming
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posted June 02, 2012 01:45 PM
You would think so, Ceri, but it's actually pretty rare to find someone you have an unafflicted love stellium with.------------------
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Lexyr14
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posted June 02, 2012 02:05 PM
What about this composite chart? 
Someone I've been talking to for a good while and we have not seen each other yet.....
I was kinda wondering if anyone knows what it means if you have this going on but not the greatest synastry? for example I am a Leo with a Cancer moon merc and venus... I think he might not be very emotional for me... he is a Virgo sun merc venus and mars, with an aquarius moon..
Anything else you see in this would be great, thanks. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted June 02, 2012 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
You would think so, Ceri, but it's actually pretty rare to find someone you have an unafflicted love stellium with.
Yes, true there are often afflictions.
But I was simply talking about the frequency in which Sun-Venus aspects will *naturally* appear and that increases of course with using minor aspects as well. Now if we are talking about unafflicted stellium, I do think that is probably more rare.
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RunAroundScreaming
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posted June 02, 2012 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, true there are often afflictions.
But I was simply talking about the frequency in which Sun-Venus aspects will *naturally* appear and that increases of course with using minor aspects as well.Now if we are talking about unafflicted stellium, I do think that is probably more rare.
Yes, I pretty much feel that the effects of the love stellium are almost totally negated if the stellium is afflicted by either saturn or two or more outer planets, (and if pluto it must be squaring the entire stellium.) Also, even though the moon being afflicted by outer planets (except pluto, I don't really consider composite moon in negative aspect to pluto to be that big of an affliction) is likely to cause a relationship to end eventually, it doesn't negate the effects of the love stellium at all. So I think it is pretty rare to find a relationship where you can feel the effects of the love stellium. I've explained this in my free compatibility readings thread in Personal Readings. In fact, I tried to show how it might even be dangerous to have an afflicted love stellium, because both people love each other, yet that person can harm you more because you're more vulnerable to them since you allow them to be close to you.
You make a good point about the love stellium being much less rare now, Ceri
But I have found that even with this new discovery it's still quite hard to find an unafflicted one.
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IndigoDirae
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posted June 02, 2012 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Indigo,I can`t promise you when I will come around doing it, but would gladly have a look. Not sure it will be the same as Raijn, as every chart has its own pattern and I guess only certain pattern´s "speak" to me.
But I will try.
Thanks. I would really, really love your input. I can't say it's exactly 'time-sensitive' but it's bizarre how much of this story is wrapped up in this soul-group, its synastries, and the upcoming galactic alignment. It's all a bit spooky. Mildly disconcerting. And those of us who are 'aware' are being driven a little bit more than crazy by it. I say 'karmic perspective' because it seems with how pronounced the signature is, and its involvement with Karma-Destinn, the Nodes (especially SNode) and 12H/12R, Pluto-Saturn-Atlantis - it seems like it can ONLY be 'karmic' - if you feel me. Right now, Blind writer and I are working on this night and day, trying to understand the intricacies, but the closer you are to a thing, the harder it is to get a different perspective, which becomes necessary over time. I will say that this soul-group is important in some way, connected to Atlantis, with another asteroid popping up significantly - Magion - which I know NOTHING about. We all seem to fit the 'Indigo' resonance, and many of us have 'met' prior to meeting, can actively communicate with each other through dreams, are VERY psychically linked, and -started- the relationships as old friends, or even family members. And HERE's what gets me. Among the ... -counts- relatively confirmed 7 or 8 of us (another 5 or so suspected) - SIX of us are twinflames. SIX. To me, that's a STAGGERING per centage. I'm just looking to make better sense of it all, and understand. And, if I'm incredibly lucky, start being able to form a more solid portrait of this past which has brought us all together, becoming SO crucial that two of us (myself and my best friend and TF) are supposed to adapt the story into a TV series that will hopefully, (fingers crossed) reach millions. So, the 'bigness' of it all is sometimes ... overwhelming. Daunting. Exciting, but terrifying. I would just be exceedingly grateful for your guidance. -A. P.S. The series being called LACHESIS, naturally, I started including that asteroid recently, and, wow. Just wow. It's also kind of hysterical how it's right on the ASC in the Davison, and in the composite, on the DSC, just out of orb to Chiron (which is exactly on Algol - yeah, I know) and opposite Karma-Destinn along the ASC - exactly. I mean, GAH. I'm not gonna shout, 'Help!' but I'm getting near to that point. 
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Ceridwen
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posted June 02, 2012 05:27 PM
Indigo," I would really, really love your input."
I will do my best. 
"ildly disconcerting. And those of us who are 'aware' are being driven a little bit more than crazy by it."
I know what you mean. It`s like time is running more quickly than before. or just the feeling of racing towards a threshold. I don´t know. Ican`t really describe it.
Maybe I am just under the impression of the coming convention I will attend to, and having found out that very coincidentally on exact that weekend there will be
a T-square of
Pluto 8.46 Cap
Karma 8.31 Cancer
Uranus 8.04 Aries
(can`t help bnut notice the "karmic 8").
And my pr ASC on 8.31 Cap,
my n ISIS on 8.32 Cap
my n Osiris on 7.50 Cap
my natal Pluto on 9.05 Libra
my pr Prosperina on 8.59 Cap
But did you see how PRECISE the conjunction of Tr Karma to my pr DESC is?
Plus the opposition to Isis?
And how intersting that my pr Proserpina is squaring Pluto, and Tr Pluto is very very very closely conjunct pr Proserpina.
Fittingly the theme of the conventions is vampires. lol
I think I am just a wee bit nervous. lol
"say that this soul-group is important in some way, connected to Atlantis"
aren`t they all? Or is that only me, if I were to determine a twinflame for me, THIS is the asteroid I would start with. I just know it.
Well, Atlantis is conjunct my ASC,Neptune, NN, Mars, Angel, Wisdom, Lust and Poseidon, so it is maybe not that surprising. "with another asteroid popping up significantly - Magion - which I know NOTHING about."
This is what compelled me to write you back INSTANTLY, because you mentioned, of all possible ones, THIS asteorid.
I haven`t heard him mentioned before, but had also noticed its importance for myself. I have MAGION on 6.55 Aries in 4th house, conjunct Aura, Alma, on my IC, and it makes a Grand trine with Hypnos on 6 Leo and the Stellium of Mars/ASC/Angel/Atlantis on 5-8 Sag.
" and many of us have 'met' prior to meeting, can actively communicate with each other through dreams, are VERY psychically linked,"
In such cases I have regularly found ANUBIS forming strong aspects to the angles, Sun, Moon, Nodal axis or Neptune in composite chart. it seems to enhance an astral connection.
It is almost ridiculous how often this one popped up being conjunct Neptune in my comparisions. lol
"SIX of us are twinflames. SIX. To me, that's a STAGGERING per centage."
WOW! "P.S. The series being called LACHESIS, naturally, I started including that asteroid recently, and, wow."
Ah yes the middle one of the three moirae. Always loved the sound of her name.
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EmpressMendez
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posted June 17, 2012 04:55 AM
Is this a stellium? Is it negative due to the 12th house? (note: his birth time may not be 100% accurate).
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Phoenix
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posted July 26, 2012 02:08 PM
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Hera
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posted July 26, 2012 04:19 PM
So what do you guys think of Saturn in the 7th house?  IP: Logged |
Karmic Soul
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posted August 02, 2012 08:01 PM
Hi there - newbie here, but not to astrology. BINGO - stellium! Lol. I'm curious to see what others see in my synastry chart/composite. The effect this relationship has had on me is...profound. Any feedback you're willing to share would be fantastic & much appreciated. It may bring more clarity & clear some things up for me. Thanks! P.S. - Sorry there's no chart, I had problems uploading it to the forum. Thanks again!MY CHART
Sun 22°23' Virgo
Moon 26°39' Aries
Mercury 2°55' Libra
Venus 2°21' Scorpio
Mars 9°07' Taurus
Jupiter 2°34' ß Aquarius
Saturn 3°50' Cancer
Uranus 21°31' Libra
Neptune 4°54' Sagittarius
Pluto 3°49' Libra
Chiron 19°36' ß Aries
Ceres 12°20' Sagittarius
Pallas 16°36' Scorpio
Juno 11°44' Sagittarius
Vesta 27°55' Leo
Node 4°07' ß Capricorn
Lilith 25°42' Sagittarius
Fortune 26°29' Capricorn
AS 0°45' Virgo
MC 24°54' Taurus HIS CHART
Sun 28°07' Libra
Moon 19°41' Taurus
Mercury 10°19' Libra
Venus 12°37' Virgo
Mars 1°05' Cancer
Jupiter 18°31' ß Aries
Saturn 2°27' Leo
Uranus 2°32' Scorpio
Neptune 10°00' Sagittarius
Pluto 9°52' Libra
Chiron 25°38' ß Aries
Ceres 15°32' ß Gemini
Pallas 19°02' ß Pisces
Juno 1°04' Virgo
Vesta 21°50' ß Pisces
Node 21°48' ß Scorpio
Lilith 6°46' Aries
Fortune 10°25' Sagittarius
AS 1°59' Cancer
MC 8°45' Pisces COMPOSITE Sun 10°15' Libra
Moon 8°10' Taurus
Mercury 6°37' Libra
Venus 7°29' Libra
Mars 5°06' Gemini
Jupiter 10°33' ß Pisces
Saturn 18°09' Cancer
Uranus 27°01' Libra
Neptune 7°27' Sagittarius
Pluto 6°51' Libra
Chiron 22°37' ß Aries
Ceres 13°56' Virgo
Pallas 17°49' Capricorn
Juno 21°24' Libra
Vesta 9°53' Gemini
Node 12°57' ß Sagittarius
Lilith 16°14' Aquarius
Fortune 3°27' Capricorn
AS 1°22' Leo
MC 16°50' Aries
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redshift
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posted August 03, 2012 11:44 AM
Oh man. I thought I was over analyzing this relationship, till I read this post. Look at this:
  I have been trying so hard to manage this crush. It's been sooooo hard to deal with because it's intense. I don't have this Stellium with my actual husband and never felt the intense draw that I do with this crush, nor the instant "We are meant to know each other" vibe that I get from him. There's the sun conjunct venus and the sun square Pluto. I'm working overtime to have a platonic relation, because I like him too much to let it go, but it's almost making me start to dislike him to have to repress the sexual and romantic energy like that. Such a strange relationship. Never had anything like it. What do you think? IP: Logged |
redshift
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posted August 03, 2012 11:51 AM
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