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posted January 10, 2013 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rajin that synastry does seem intense. intensity doesnt seem to be the problem :/
I'm sorry i couldnt be of more help

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posted January 10, 2013 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And that, RAS, is the irony. No intensity in the relationship. He makes sure not to let any intense feelings develop. I can't figure out how to resolve the issue. I am stuck on him(like Band-Aid,LOL) and I would like him to be stuck on me too. How do I make him fall for me?
thanks for your help. Have a great day.

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posted January 10, 2013 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, RAS (and anyone else on this thread), I was going to start another thread re: these aspects, but thought you might have some insight:

My and My Husband's Composite:

We have Venus/Sun conj in the 4th, but after reading this thread I'm concerned about that Uranus. I can say that I don't feel it, but we've only been married 3.5 years.
Is that a wide enough orb to not be a problem?

This thread also had me look towards our Neptune. As you can see, it's in a wide square with our Mars and trine our Merc.
I think that I may see that manifest in what we call our "black hole" tendency - we'll sit down to talk "for a minute", and the next thing you know we've been talking for 3 hours about philosophy, politics, and/or spirituality. It's not exactly "bad", but can be a pretty major time suck. (Though, I'll say that it's certainly a more pleasant time suck than most other things )
Does that seem like a reasonable interp?

re: our fairly active Pluto: I see that. We can be intense, but so far I haven't seen the "harshness" of the aspects manifest.
Part of that might be that we both have tempers, but also don't really allow arguments to develop. If one of us starts to get too heated, we'll step back, allow for cool-off time, and then talk about it.
But, really, even that doesn't happen all that often - a time or two per year, perhaps.
Am I missing something?

re: the Grand Trine: We joke that it's not codependency if both people like it.
lolz.

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posted January 10, 2013 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stellar_moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
. In synastry they might have some rough saturn aspects, too, since it feels like they stay together out of duty.


Regarding the venus conjunct saturn in my b/fs and my composite. We have so much responsibility. We each have a son, both of which are high intensity. Both work a lot. He does a LOT for me. It makes me feel like I am in debt to him a lot of the time. And I would hate for him to do things out of a sense of "duty". Guy's been under the hood of my car in the POURING rain for three days. If we do end up parting ways, I really hope that it isn't bad. For our kids sake. I already have a tumultuous thing going on with my son's father. There are aspects in our synastry that state it would be hard to remain friends after a break-up. It would make sense that our connection might have a karmic debt attached. Uranus will be transiting my 7th house very soon, pluto crossing the IC around same time. I am 28 years old. I have a son, I am torn sometimes between what my life should be like for my son's sake and what my actual life destiny is for me. For son's sake, Stable. With a man around, a responsible man. But sometimes I feel that my chart doesn't support that, that I am too independant, at least, I do fine as a single mother.. I would like to have another child . In the next few years because I'm not getting any younger. I figure that for that to happen, I should be in a stable partnership. Very confusing sometimes.

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posted January 10, 2013 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mockingbird:

Haha. well that was easy. You don't feel the sun opposite uranus because it's not there. If you look at the grid there's no uranus aspects actually. Also there are no mars negative aspects...so why'd ya think you're supposed to have arguments again? and as far as "heavy pluto" no...moon square pluto doesnt really count as heavy pluto. It is enough to make it nice pluto though

The "black hole" convos u were talking about are actually due to composite moon square mercury (getting lost in convo and letting emotional conversation take over logical strictly intellectual convos) and mercury square jupiter (excess of convos, literally. lol) Sun and venus square jupiter also dont help with losing track of time and/or making big plans.

mars sq neptune is not a big deal and mercury trine neptune is very lovely

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posted January 10, 2013 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
stellar_moon, well thankfully, there is a compromise between both. it is possible to feel like making sacrifices for someone without that being a burden to you. The difference is that with saturn hard aspects (conjunction and neg aspects) people do them out of a sense of duty, while with saturn trines and sextiles people do them out of a sense of love ..and it feels good, wonderful, actually, to do it out of a sense of love.


so you can have both. just make sure to keep it light and fun with ur guy if you have saturn hard aspects even tho i know its hard to

hugs to you

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posted January 10, 2013 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ras...
i would like your insight in this chart.
there is sun conjunct mercury...but no venus at all.
nevertheless, something seems to be working here.
i dont know if the fact that the moon trines the sun and mercury adds to the spark...for now.
since i see that the moon opposes pluto and saturn.
i read that moon opposite is pluto is much better than moon opposite saturn.

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posted January 10, 2013 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lola136     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about these placements?

Venus in 1st conjunct sun(aries)
sun conjunct mercury in 2nd
A stellium in 9th Scorpio with Jupiter,moon,mars,pluto and juno..

Please answer

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posted January 10, 2013 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hikoro, well as youve probably heard me say, most planets in a cluster in the composite is a good thing and causes an attraction

Here you have sun-mercury-neptune and jupiter all conjunct each other. With venus only conjunct jupiter and in a rly loose conjunction with uranus. I'm a fan of sun conjunct jupiter, as you might have read already. And neptune in the stellium only adds to how nice it feels. Moon hard aspect to pluto is not bad. It gives intensity of feeling but can be too hot to handle for some. Moon hard aspect to saturn isnt the greatest but isnt necessarily life or death either. It just means you will have doubts about how much the other person cares at times bc they seem to not pay attention to the things that are important to you. I should warn you its not real love though since sun isnt conjunct venus, so feelings might fade...

but i am a fan of composite sun conjunct jupiter so i say go for it

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posted January 10, 2013 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lola136:
What about these placements?

Venus in 1st conjunct sun(aries)
sun conjunct mercury in 2nd
A stellium in 9th Scorpio with Jupiter,moon,mars,pluto and juno..

Please answer


im sorry if u posted before, it's just that its hard to be able to tell anything from this when i can't see the composite chart image with the grid

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posted January 10, 2013 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks ras
you should write more about these things.
so, one could say that ideally: sun conjunct venus-mercury gets first prize,
and after that, stelliums such as sun-mercury-neptune and jupiter go second or third?
like, have you developed what are the next best stelliums after the sun-venus-mercury one?

im starting to become a believer of this...ive realized that most of my relationships had sun composite mercury conjunction.....amazing since i love intellectual rapports.
however, in spite of ok-good synastry between venus and mars, and even moon, it always felt as if something was lacking in these relationships.
now, this is the first time i experience the venus conjunction and it does feel more complete.

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posted January 10, 2013 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stellar_moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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stellar_moon, well thankfully, there is a compromise between both. it is possible to feel like making sacrifices for someone without that being a burden to you. The difference is that with saturn hard aspects (conjunction and neg aspects) people do them out of a sense of duty, while with saturn trines and sextiles people do them out of a sense of love ..and it feels good, wonderful, actually, to do it out of a sense of love.


so you can have both. just make sure to keep it light and fun with ur guy if you have saturn hard aspects even tho i know its hard to

hugs to you


That is great advice that I will apply, thaaaank you

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posted January 10, 2013 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hikoro:
no the sun isnt conjunct venus though. but it is conjunct neptune and jupiter. yes, you're right, that is how i would categorize them as far as ideal compatibility goes

well, i've tried writing about it in my signature.

what do u think i should do? write new threads? what would u suggest? thanks

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posted January 10, 2013 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hikoro:
no the sun isnt conjunct venus though. but it is conjunct neptune and jupiter. yes, you're right, that is how i would categorize them as far as ideal compatibility goes

well, i've tried writing about it in my signature.

what do u think i should do? write new threads? what would u suggest? thanks


im going to have to check your links again, i wonder if you've found the love stellium in long-term celebrity/famous couples,
and, as to other stelliums...
if you have found like...which other stelliums come close to the love stellium....
as in, first place: sun-merc-venus, second third....

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posted January 10, 2013 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RAS, I was hoping I could get your opinion on my composite chart with manchild (my husband lol)~ I think if I've looked/understood it correctly, we do have a nice composite, (and our synastry isn't so bad either tbh)... despite that we're plagued with differences in everything... everything. I was hoping if you could offer your view on which if any of these aspects would indicate or contribute to this disharmony, and the constant struggles in our almost 7 year marriage. Please!!? ^^;

Thank you, in advance!~ tedious things these composites... still very foreign to me!~ <3
I appreciate your help and the wisdom you've shared here with us! thanks again!

the chart~ dundundundun~

(like I said it's still a bit difficult for me to understand comps but I know we have decent placements between sun-merc and ven-mars at the least... but, I wonder about if our cMoon isn't where our issues are most likely or most often(?)... arisen...?)

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posted January 10, 2013 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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im going to have to check your links again, i wonder if you've found the love stellium in long-term celebrity/famous couples,

yeah i did. i made a thread showing love stelliums in celeb relationships. i'll try to dig it up for u

EDIT: Found it! Here you go! http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/215861.html

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posted January 10, 2013 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SaturnineMoth, could you copy n paste the compatibility for lovers report from grupovenus.com

From looking at this composite, u dont have a love stellium :/ bc sun isnt conjunct venus. You also have mars in hard aspect to uranus and pluto, which if you read in my "Aspects to avoid" link in my signature are aspects u def dont want to have in the composite. you also have venus semisquare saturn which will make a relationship cold and distant unfortunately. I'm curious to see what the synastry is anyway so if ya can do post the grupovenus thanks

You do have sun conjunct neptune and all the planets clustered together so that causes an attraction

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posted January 10, 2013 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Mockingbird:

Haha. well that was easy. You don't feel the sun opposite uranus because it's not there. If you look at the grid there's no uranus aspects actually. Also there are no mars negative aspects...so why'd ya think you're supposed to have arguments again? and as far as "heavy pluto" no...moon square pluto doesnt really count as heavy pluto. It is enough to make it nice pluto though



I was concerned about Pluto opp Merc. It might make for intense convos, but I see your point about them not necessarily being "combative".

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The "black hole" convos u were talking about are actually due to composite moon square mercury (getting lost in convo and letting emotional conversation take over logical strictly intellectual convos) and mercury square jupiter (excess of convos, literally. lol) Sun and venus square jupiter also dont help with losing track of time and/or making big plans.

Yeah, we get quite a lot done when we start something, but just hanging out and talking continually comes very easy.

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mars sq neptune is not a big deal and mercury trine neptune is very lovely

Yeah, I have the most spiritual conversations I've ever had with anyone with him

Thanks, RAS!
I'm still poking my way through things and remembering a bunch of the stuff I'd forgotten during my astro-hiatus.

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posted January 10, 2013 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ras...
thanks, will check the thread.
now...i skimmed the first composite and i saw that with ono and lennon, you wrote sun semisextile venus = sun conjunct venus.
isnt that what's going on in the last chart i posted?
sun in cap but venus is in sag, or, are the orbs too wide?

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posted January 10, 2013 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it would have to show up in the grid for the orbs to count

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posted January 10, 2013 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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it would have to show up in the grid for the orbs to count

??? sorry, dont get it.

and correct me if im wrong...
i looked at the thread, re-read and re-read.

so, two people can have the 'direct' love stellium (sun-venus-mercury)....
or, they can have a love stellium that may not be exactly as above, however, depending on the aspects it ends up being the same thing as a sun-venus-mercury conjunction, is this correct?

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posted January 10, 2013 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, you're correct. sun, venus, and mercury aspecting each other is what is important for the love stellium, whether that is a minor aspect or conjunction does not matter, as long as its an aspect. Just make sure sun is aspecting venus though.

As for the grid, i meant the grid below the composite chart wheel. It should show a semisextile aspect symbol there but it doesnt..that means the orb is too wide

Description of Composite Sun semisextile Venus from
http://www.keplersoftware.co.uk/reports/report_samples/Composite.htm

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Sun Semisextile Venus

This aspect signifies that you just plainly love each other. The attraction is so strong between you that even though you may be incompatible by other standards, you still feel like being with your partner because of that love you feel for them. It's not that they won't occasionally drive you nuts - they will. It's just that the bottom line is that there is real love between you and there is no stronger emotion in the universe.

By being together you can create beauty and form as well as appreciate art and music. Your home can easily be filled with "treasures" that reflect the talents you have. But as always with Venus, be careful of overindulging in the good things of life so they do not become a noose around your neck instead of an object of desire. Remember, the more things you have, the more trouble you art likely to have. You will not mind showing off what you have accrued together, but vanity can become an undesired side effect of this aspect if it is not kept in check.

Avoid hiding any difficulties in your relationship and bring them out in the open so they can be resolved or at least recognized in order to avoid major problems down the road. You may also be drawn to speculative ventures with this aspect, so just remember to be practical in your expenditures.

With this configuration, no matter what difficulties come along to challenge you, you will always feel a need and desire to make peace, reconcile and create harmony and cooperation in your relationship. This aspect offers a great stability that will keep you from turning against each other, unless the obstacles become totally overwhelming.


^that description is identical to the one for Composite Sun conjunct Venus at http://www.cafeastrology.com/samplecouplesreportnotime.html

and in many other websites/astro report programs

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Composite Sun conjunct venus is very important. Many websites/astrologers beacon it as the strongest indication of true love between two people. Challenge me all you want, but you can't beat hundreds of astrologers with tons of counseling experience saying the same thing.

From: http://www.forrestastrology.com/General-Astrology/mountain-astrologer-interview

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TMA: That's a wonderful insight. Now, going back to composites, do you see Sun-Venus conjunctions in long-term relationships, and do you see that a lot?

JF: Very often.

SF: It's very common. In fact, it is one of many avenues where a statistical proof of astrology, which seems to be a holy grail for some people, would be fairly easily accomplished. Get a group of people who have been married or committed to each other for five years or more and do a statistical analysis of the presence of the Sun-Venus conjunction in the composite chart versus chance. I would stake my life on it that we would see a distinct Venus pattern because it emerges so often in the counseling room.


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RAS - thank you, dear~ ^^

lol he's a Virgo Asc, Sag Sun- but, looks incredibly Sadge-ish (bulbous nose; his family nicknamed him Potato-Nose, in azores portuguese... nariz del batat!!)... very much a Centaur. All he needs is a longer mane, and he'd be full-on horse-man! lol (he'd kill me for saying this, and with those Mars malefics I guess I shouldn't stir the hornets nest... but, the Sadge in my own chart can't resist the temptation!) =x *humour is our one bond* lol I missed the Saturn semisquare completely when looking the firs time too >.< doh! Composites are by far the hardest charts for me to grasp... (well, harmonics too... but, I've barely touched those yet.) I thank you, again~ you're a sweetheart for helping me with this!

how should I go about c&p-ing the report though, by section??

it's quite lengthy... separate posts for each section or just the aspects??

very good stuff in there~!

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just copy and paste everything!
including the aspects listed all the way at the bottom. it will fit in one post, no need for separate posts
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