posted April 10, 2013 02:54 AM            

First off, I did skip a few pages, so if I'm asking something that was addressed there, sorry. :/

I don't have a sun-venus-mercury with anyone that I have a birth time for.

However I have a reoccurring sun-mercury-pluto with people who are closest to me. Venus is in the neighboring house.

posted April 10, 2013 05:40 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Any good relationship will have a balance of everything. I agree about the pluto vs saturn thing you said. Yeah def if a couple lasts (and theyre happy) there will be some nice saturn in syn or comp

There are a lot of people who're married but are unhappy. And i think it's hard to find couples that dont break up And are happy as well, because i really think u need a balance. A relationship with a balance of venus, mars, jupiter, neptune, uranus, saturn, etc feels "just right" (just ask YTA and his wife. Check out their awesome synastry and composite, that might i add has a balance of every planet. And just look at how he raves about his marriage. I just think there are a lot of unhappily married people)

But i do think pluto is needed in anything to make that person become important to you. No pluto, no depth. I never said heavy pluto btw. Thats never good. Too many power struggles/insecurity. Too much anything is bad. Heavy jupiter u become overconfident and lazy as a couple, heavy mars too many arguments, heavy neptune too impractical and prone to disillusionment, heavy saturn too cold and stifled, heavy anything.

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posted April 10, 2013 07:36 AM            

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Originally posted by themischievousone:
It's interesting to come across this thread when I'm going through composite charts.

First off, I did skip a few pages, so if I'm asking something that was addressed there, sorry. :/

I don't have a sun-venus-mercury with anyone that I have a birth time for.

However I have a reoccurring sun-mercury-pluto with people who are closest to me. Venus is in the neighboring house.

How are composites calculated?

Or am I just recreating the same types of relationships and just don't really love anyone (haha jk)? xD

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You could know if u have it with someone even if u dont have their birthtime. Why dont u check?

posted April 10, 2013 07:30 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
You could know if u have it with someone even if u dont have their birthtime. Why dont u check?

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I just finished trying it with people I have been close to without birth times and not one person. Not even my parents.

posted April 10, 2013 09:29 PM            

This is someone I once had insane chemistry with, and have phenomenal synastry with... that for whatever reason... has suddenly tried to reconnect. (And cautious Cap here is trying avoid the star-crossed path from presenting itself again, and all the hostility we'd receive from others if it did!) ~Hoping to find some answers in the charts... ^^; Thank you for your time, RAS!~

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posted April 11, 2013 01:32 AM            

Look at all this saturn though. Would a saturn heavy composite chart have a better or worse effect if both individuals had pronounced saturn aspects in their birth charts?

I also am not sure what to think of the jupiter/uranus opposition or the mars/uranus square. If only we had power over who we love

posted April 21, 2013 05:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Frank Sinatra - ava Gardner:
torrid love affair, failed gloriously after a short time

They have an unafflicted love stellium, but they also have Moon in 6th quinkunx Neptune, and Sun is also sesisquare Neptune

I have been going through my databank with long lasting couples, and not one had a personal planet in 6th house in difficult aspect to Neptune. Though there were some with planets in 6th house OR Neptune in difficult aspect to personal planets, esp. Sun or Moon.

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Sun afflicted by neptune. Moon square mars. Mars square uranus and saturn. Jupiter square saturn. All very negative aspects, the last three of which are listed in my most negative aspects to avoid link in my signature

posted April 21, 2013 05:51 PM            

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Originally posted by hikoro:
thanks ceridwen....

i thought of another couple, kind edward VIII, who abdicated for wallis simpson. they dont seem to have the love stellium, they only have sun conjunct mercury. but..something must have been going on.
maybe the venus conjunct pluto?

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These have a semisextile love stellium, plus all the planets clustered together, with no afflctions to this cluster. Therefore they are soulmates

posted April 21, 2013 05:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
RAS would probably say that while it is nice and beautiful and affectionate, it is not true love, though I should let her speak for herself.

Personally I have made a different observation. Next to Sun/Venus/(Mercury) this is the most loving aspect you can have (though neither is very sexual or passionate per se; you would need some Mars and Pluto for that).

However, Moon/Venus has a dreamy romantic quality, but one that is built on a much more realistic ground than Neptune/Moon or Neptune/Venus. That is what I have read in the book on composites by Robert Hand which I strongly recommend. A VERY good read, and an indepth understanding of how the energies work together (or donīt).

The difference to Sun/Venus/Mercury is that Moon/Venus/Mercury is more internalized. It is entirely possible that you totally completely love each other in the most tender and affectionate and caring way, but this love might never be really known or shown.
With Sun/Venus it is more likely that the love feelings will be demonstrated and expressed, as Sun is a Yang energy, and you need one of these to express a feeling in a demonstrative way.
Also, Moon is more emotional, and yes, also more moody, so the sensitivity of this might be so high, that there could be moodswings and it might not feel as "stable" and secure as Sun/Venus, depending on the other aspects to that conjunction.

You also should check in whic house the conjunction falls, which houses the planets rule, which other planets aspect the conjunction, and how it connects to your natals.

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I'd say that moon-venus really disguises itself as true love. But the idea behind sun-venus is harmony first and foremost. That not only means loving feelings, but a continuous attempt to fix and avoid arguments and to keep the harmony between you and treat each other well. That is very important in any relationship for there to be happiness. Moon-venus is not like that. My parents have moon conjunct venus opposite pluto in composite (which is the second most common pattern to the love stellium found in attraction...moon aspecting venus aspecting pluto) but they argue all the time and they rarely ever are kind to each other or treat each other gently. They constantly make fun of each other and reply to each other in rude/angry ways. My best friend also had a long time relationship with that configuration and she said her relationship with that guy had nothing to do with love, whereas with her current boyfriend who she plans to marry and has a love stellium with, it is very different. My sister also just got out of a relationship with that configuration and she feels bitter and angry towards the guy. That is one thing that never happens with a love stellium...you forgive you forget and you think the best of the person always--because you sympathize with their emotions. You always think "I mustve done something wrong to ruin this relationship" and you always end on good terms with each other. Thats why imo it's difficult to end up with a broken heart with sunconjunct venus, because you always forgive them, seeing them instead as the naughty child who does not know any better but is still inocent and adorable.

posted April 21, 2013 08:47 PM            

did you notice the composite chart i posted in the previous page? they have the scorpio stellium in the 4th house...
anything interesting observations?

by the way, is there a stellium in the following?
this may be a silly question but, is this a semisextile love stellium? if so, is the semisextile as strong as the conjunction? thx!

posted April 21, 2013 09:58 PM            

It's significant though, because there's saturn and pluto conjunct it. So the relationship will feel important. Saturn can make it hard to be lighthearted with each other though. Mars is afflicted by uranus and pluto so i'd say there's probably going to be arguments and differences of opinion. Different lifestyles and personalities/energy levels are shown by sun square moon. Sun and moon square mars means there'll probably be arguments and tension regarding those differences.

posted April 21, 2013 11:30 PM            

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Originally posted by hikoro:
another one....
engaged, really cute couple if you see them.
im not sure if they will last but, i dont want to say anything yet...just to see if anybody sees some patterns, interesting dynamics and then, i shall corroborate or not...

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Mars is afflicted, sun is square mars, moon is sq saturn, stellium is conjunct uranus. Hmmmm... :/
Do they still seem as happy together?

posted April 22, 2013 11:53 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Mars is afflicted, sun is square mars, moon is sq saturn, stellium is conjunct uranus. Hmmmm... :/
Do they still seem as happy together?

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based on the link negative aspects to avoid, the one that seems to really stand out is 'stellium conjuncting uranus'...correct? i didnt take the rest of the afflictions into consideration because you did not include them in the link.

obviously, it is rare to find a stellium that is not afflicted, so, where do you draw the line as to when the composite chart is heavily afflicted vs. 'a couple of afflictions are ok, and no big deal'...and, how do you figure out which specific aspects are more problematic than others...?

as to the couple...i think they are doing fine. but, i sense that there has been some minor trouble since 2011, however, it is a beautiful relationship....ive never seen him this happy with someone. they radiate happiness...

posted April 23, 2013 01:01 PM            

In composite,
I had Sun conjunct Mercury conjunct Mars in Sagittarius with my ex
All three semi-sextile Venus in Scorpio

It wasn't a loving relationship; more fun-oriented with a lot of ups and downs. It did leave an impact on me since it was my first romantic relationship. But I wouldn't call it a loving relationship.

Below is the chart of my first and hopefully last most loving romantic relationship. We fight, argue, have been at the verge of killing each other...but then it all simmers down to love. I don't know if the fact that there's a sign love stellium relevant.

posted April 23, 2013 02:29 PM            

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Originally posted by hikoro:
im not RAS.
but in terms of the first chart, it is too wide of a stellium, imo.
also, moon is in hard aspect to uranus, jupiter and neptune.
too many hits, and then, there is that mars conjunction.
i may be wrong, but, it seems that having mars too close to the stellium can be problematic.

as to the second chart, it is obviously far smoother.

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The planets are conjunct within 3 degrees and there's the semi-sextile to venus. I don't get how the planets are too far away.
And the Moon makes no aspects, save for the WIDE square to jupiter. There's no opposition to Uranus/Neptune. The Moon's at 0 Cancer.

posted April 24, 2013 04:27 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
... That's why imo it's difficult to end up with a broken heart with sunconjunct venus ...

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But certainly not impossible. I even think Sun-Venus is our closest conjunction. Also parallel.

posted April 24, 2013 05:35 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
But certainly not impossible. I even think Sun-Venus is our closest conjunction. Also parallel.

And my heart is really damned broken.

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posted July 22, 2013 01:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I have looked at a lot of composites of couples who were happy and loving each other. Some had the love stellium, some didn`t.

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posted October 04, 2013 07:08 AM            

I have this Love Stellium with my dad, who was indeed the person who's made me feel loved and cherished the most. With my mom, I don't have the composite Stellium, but composite Moon trines composite Venus and her Sun and Pluto are tightly conjunct my Venus (0š and 2š orbs, respectively).

posted December 24, 2013 02:33 PM            

I can not read all the pages. But can someone tell what would be impact of Neptune to the Composite stellium?

I have Sag stellium with someone:
Neptune (16)
Mercury(16)
Sun (21)
Mars (23)
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Venus is semisextile Mars (23 Cap)
Stellium trines Saturn widely
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opposites Jupiter widely