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Topic: The most loving relationships of your life: Tight Composite Sun c. Venus and Mercury
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britterfly Knowflake Posts: 701 From: Registered: Jul 2010
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posted September 10, 2011 02:57 PM
interesting to note, and i wonder what it means, if anything:Our composite North node conjuncts HIS Venus with an orb of 3 degrees. Our composite Venus conjuncts MY natal north node with an orb of 2 degrees. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Moderator Posts: 8150 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted September 10, 2011 03:40 PM
Okay, Lonake, that's fine. Wow, you really want to prove your point. Lol. Well, I guess we can just agree to disagree As for the composite chart someone just posted, i think that looks great! You have most of your planets close together. And sun opposite mercury is interpreted the same way as sun conjunct mercury. So, you do have that love stellium thing. And not only that but you have a stellium of sun moon and jupiter which is simply amazing. Then you have none of the bad planets (neptune, saturn, uranus) anywhere near in sight or in bad aspect. That's great. lol. You may not have pluto conjunct or trine anything...which is always desirable as pluto gives depth of emotion, but i'm sure you have at least one pluto contact in synastry or i doubt you'd be together. So that's fine. And plus, you have plenty of nice trines from mars to the personal planets in the composite which add plenty of passion, heat, and excitement/fun. This looks like an awesome composite chart IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 23108 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 10, 2011 04:21 PM
Thank you, Britterfly. As for your question: c-NN conjunct hsi Venus:
the path of the relationship will trigger his love; probably it means that he loves being ina relationship with you, especially of the feeling of purpose that is inherent in it, like you have a common way to go. c- Venus conjunct your NN the way you share love in your relationship helps you on your personal path in your life. Maybe it means that you feel that the love between you is fated.
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Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9947 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 12, 2011 01:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by Doreen: That's very Interesting Lonake I always read that Sun Conjunct Venus was the best aspect I've got Moon conjunct Venus with an enemy hahaha he tried to play me out with a house I had on the market
I don't like to term aspects as 'The Best'. I think that should be used more subjectively for each person. If you see me using that term on here it's either subjective for me and what I like or very tongue-in-cheek. The best thing that I do know of, however, is for everyone to do their own research and not to take what they read as gospel
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Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9947 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 12, 2011 01:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by britterfly: what do you guys think of this composite?
It's not "The Most Loving Relationship of Your Life." . . . Wink.IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Moderator Posts: 8150 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted September 12, 2011 02:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: [QUOTE]Originally posted by britterfly: [b]what do you guys think of this composite?
It's not "The Most Loving Relationship of Your Life." . . . Wink.[/B][/QUOTE]It is, actually. Like I said in my interpretation, she does have that love stellium in there. IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9947 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 13, 2011 01:47 AM
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britterfly Knowflake Posts: 701 From: Registered: Jul 2010
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posted September 14, 2011 09:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: [QUOTE]Originally posted by britterfly: [b]what do you guys think of this composite?
It's not "The Most Loving Relationship of Your Life." . . . Wink.[/B][/QUOTE]Actually, Lonake, so far it is. IP: Logged |
britterfly Knowflake Posts: 701 From: Registered: Jul 2010
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posted September 14, 2011 09:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doreen: [b]That's very Interesting Lonake I always read that Sun Conjunct Venus was the best aspect I've got Moon conjunct Venus with an enemy hahaha he tried to play me out with a house I had on the market
I don't like to term aspects as 'The Best'. I think that should be used more subjectively for each person. If you see me using that term on here it's either subjective for me and what I like or very tongue-in-cheek. The best thing that I do know of, however, is for everyone to do their own research and not to take what they read as gospel [/B][/QUOTE]I totally agree with this statement about not accepting what you hear/read to be gospel truth. Astrological aspects are going to affect different people in different ways, just like everything in life. IP: Logged |
anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 4557 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 15, 2011 06:30 AM
Very interesting! Last year I developed a crush for a guy I worked together with (practically my boss but not exactly). I don't have his time of birth so I hope the composite is still accurate (q: is the midpoint method the best in this case?) He and I have: Sun at 16 Sag Merc at 11 Sag Venus at 14 Sag Mars at 12 Sag (I've rounded the seconds in the above when over 50') I felt a great attraction and he seemed to reciprocate. But nothing came out of it. I mean we never admitted our feelings openly. A reason might be his Cap Sun who makes him rather reticent and business-like. We both have Taurus Moon and out synastry has some cool Mars-Venus trines and fated conjunctions (my Sat to his Moon for example and my NN to his Chiron). The Sun-Venus-Merc stellium above (in the 11th) is trined by Sat in the 3rd but squared by Pluto and Jup in the 8th in the composite. I wonder why nothing came of this. Anyone might be able to vouch a look? thanks again for the super great thread! Anongrl10 :-o) IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Moderator Posts: 8150 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted September 15, 2011 09:57 AM
Hey there . Thank you! Can i have the birth info for both of you?Usually when i see that two people like each other but they dont get together....they either have lots of pluto squares in either synastry or composite or too many aspects to saturn in synastry, or the sun and moon in bad aspect either in the composite or synastry (semisquare, quincunx,sesquiquadrate,square,opp) ---if you do the report on astrology3d.com it'll list the aspect if you do indeed have it close enough in orb for it to matter. The reason why lots of pluto squares in either synastry or composite can stop a relationship from happening is because pluto means control and power struggles, especially a square. Both people are so scared of losing each other that they completely tighten up around each other and are too scared to be around each other for fear of rejection, and little less have any courage left over to flirt and show they like each other. Both people are so scared, they show complete lack of interest! Lots of saturn squares or even lots of saturn sextiles and trines just in synastry will prevent an attraction from even happening despite a good composite and/or synastry chart... or it can mean one-sided attraction. Either way, both people are so critical of each other i dont see how it could get much of anywhere. When the sun and moon are in bad aspect in either the composite or synastry it means that the two people are fascinated by each other, but they are so different from each other that they feel extremely uncomfortable and awkward around each other. This can make it a hard situation, because you know that you're both drawn to each other and are clearly fascinated, but at the same time you will have to endure the total awkwardness and inability to let go and be yourself that arises when you're together. There must be other reasons as well....i never asked an astrologer about this, really. So i'm not as sure about it. But luc de jaeger once told me that people with completely opposite make ups of modes and elements in their brth chart are super attracted to each other, but feel very uncomfortable when they're together and eentually they realize they're too different to have anything in common. For example---i have no planets in mutable or air and earth signs. I was very strongly attracted to someone who had almost all his planets in mutable air and earth signs. Also, most of the friendships i make that don't last are with people with only air and earth in their chart. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Moderator Posts: 8150 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted September 15, 2011 09:58 AM
Hey there . Thank you! Can i have the birth info for both of you?Usually when i see that two people like each other but they dont get together....they either have lots of pluto squares in either synastry or composite or too many aspects to saturn in synastry, or the sun and moon in bad aspect either in the composite or synastry (semisquare, quincunx,sesquiquadrate,square,opp) ---if you do the report on astrology3d.com it'll list the aspect if you do indeed have it close enough in orb for it to matter. The reason why lots of pluto squares in either synastry or composite can stop a relationship from happening is because pluto means control and power struggles, especially a square. Both people are so scared of losing each other that they completely tighten up around each other and are too scared to be around each other for fear of rejection, and little less have any courage left over to flirt and show they like each other. Both people are so scared, they show complete lack of interest! Lots of saturn squares or even lots of saturn sextiles and trines just in synastry will prevent an attraction from even happening despite a good composite and/or synastry chart... or it can mean one-sided attraction. Either way, both people are so critical of each other i dont see how it could get much of anywhere. When the sun and moon are in bad aspect in either the composite or synastry it means that the two people are fascinated by each other, but they are so different from each other that they feel extremely uncomfortable and awkward around each other. This can make it a hard situation, because you know that you're both drawn to each other and are clearly fascinated, but at the same time you will have to endure the total awkwardness and inability to let go and be yourself that arises when you're together. There must be other reasons as well....i never asked an astrologer about this, really. So i'm not as sure about it. But luc de jaeger once told me that people with completely opposite make ups of modes and elements in their brth chart are super attracted to each other, but feel very uncomfortable when they're together and eentually they realize they're too different to have anything in common. For example---i have no planets in mutable or air and earth signs. I was very strongly attracted to someone who had almost all his planets in mutable air and earth signs. Also, most of the friendships i make that don't last are with people with only air and earth in their chart. IP: Logged |
anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 4557 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 15, 2011 10:09 AM
Makes a lot of sense and thanks for vouching in! I will do the report on the site you recommended and get back to you. I don't feel very comfortable posting his chart since I don't have his permission. But I will look for Pluto and I remember a few squares on Pluto and Saturn very strong in the synastry: I have Sat and Moon in Taurus and his Moon is in between my own planets in Taurus etc.. Will get back to you with more. Thanks! :-) IP: Logged |
anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 4557 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 15, 2011 11:35 AM
Well the astrology3d report didn't reveal an additional info. But Pluto in the composite at 24 Virgo almost squares (by wide orb) Sun and Venus at 15 and 16 degrees Sag respectively. I don't know if that wide an orb is sufficient for confirming a square. A stronger square would be between Jup (at 14 d Virgo) and the stellium in the composite. The only other "negative" aspect in the composite is the Nept-Moon opposition. Hmm... are these sufficient to "turn off" the relationship? IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Moderator Posts: 8150 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted September 15, 2011 10:54 PM
What about in the synastry?So you're saying that the only planet squaring the love stellium in the composite is jupiter? Jupiter squaring anything isn't even a bad aspect...just like venus squaring anything...because it's such a benevolent planet. Just might lead to a bit of excess and overindulgence. That's weird... If pluto squares the sun and venus then i could understand why...but if it's too wide an orb then it doesnt count. It must be your synastry, then. You have got to take a look at that. I am sure you at least have some of what i mentioned in your synastry. And no moon-neptune in the composite comes in later usually. Neptune always comes in later. You both idealize each other first and feel like you've finally found your savior...and then you feel cheated and lied to. Lol. Gotta love neptune negative aspects.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 23108 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 16, 2011 02:57 AM
Check the aspects from composite to natal.IP: Logged |
anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 4557 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 16, 2011 09:02 PM
Thank you, guys; I will check the synastry and also composite to natal.
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RunAroundScreaming Moderator Posts: 8150 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted September 16, 2011 09:07 PM
Let me know what you find! IP: Logged |
anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 4557 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 17, 2011 09:46 AM
Well, his Moon is opposite my Venus and squares my Mars (I have a natal Venus-Mars square). Also his Saturn opposes my Pluto (yikes). My Pluto is conjunct my SN so his Saturn conjuncts my NN too... My Saturn squares his Jupiter. But his Jup trines my Sun/Merc/Nept stellium. Any of the above spell trouble? I think his Moon is in a pickle with my Mars-Venus, lol. We both have Taurus Moon (about 12 degrees apart) so he just feels what *I* feel about my Venus-Mars square, poor guy...
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: Let me know what you find!
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 23108 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 17, 2011 09:54 AM
Actually Moon-Venus-Mars sounds potentially hot; but of course only you know if you can handle the heat. His Moon is in Taurus you say? hmm, maybe your Venus-Mars-square is a bit too exciting and stimulating for him? Though he should like the sensuality.Saturn-Pluto-nodal axis - uoh, sounds like the serious stuff, maybe karmic. Is it tied to your personal planets in any way? Jupiter to Sun/mercury/Neptune sounds just really nice.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 23108 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 17, 2011 09:58 AM
You asked why nothing came of it.Well, one possible astrological explanation is that your timing was just off, which probably could be seen in the progressed charts (and the comparision of pr - pr and pr- natal) more than in the natals alone. IP: Logged |
anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 4557 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 17, 2011 10:02 AM
I think it had the potential for something very hot, exactly. For your q, if the Saturn/Nodal ties to any of my personal planets. My NN trines my Sun (and opposes my Moon). We are still collaborators. My Sun is in my 10th house. He could be potentially a savior for my career according to this indication, right? quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Actually Moon-Venus-Mars sounds potentially hot; but of course only you know if you can handle the heat. His Moon is in Taurus you say? hmm, maybe your Venus-Mars-square is a bit too exciting and stimulating for him? Though he should like the sensuality.Saturn-Pluto-nodal axis - uoh, sounds like the serious stuff, maybe karmic. Is it tied to your personal planets in any way? Jupiter to Sun/mercury/Neptune sounds just really nice.
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anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 4557 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 17, 2011 10:03 AM
I think this is about right. It feels like the timing was not right. I have a tendency to be in the wrong place the right time or meet the right people in the wrong time... drives me up the wall! Thanks so much for your insight, Ceri! quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: You asked why nothing came of it.Well, one possible astrological explanation is that your timing was just off, which probably could be seen in the progressed charts (and the comparision of pr - pr and pr- natal) more than in the natals alone.
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RunAroundScreaming Moderator Posts: 8150 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted September 20, 2011 12:09 AM
oooohkay, so I recently developed a crush at first sight with someone who I have moon semisquare venus and sun conjunct jupiter in the composite with. I already love c. sun conjunct or trine jupiter so imagine what a little compassion and tenderness from a moon-venus aspect does to add to the love and affection. This guy likes me, too, it's very obvious, but we haven't really gone out yet bc we dont see each other often. Sooo I have to say... I was sure for a second that we had sun conjunct venus because the love is so strong. But, I'm disappointed to find that I want to nurture him, not as my partner but as i would a child. That kind of turns me off. Not that he's childish at all, he isn't. But even though the love is sooo strong, it is so different from the kind i'm used to with sun conjunct or opp venus. I have to say, I realized this aspect can be very strong i guess when it has the right synastry or something bc this is the first time i felt it this strongly, but i still like sun conjunct venus better bc it feels like my partner is more of my equal and less of a sad-looking baby i want to protect and nurture. Do u get what i mean? Just wanted to share my recent experience with the aspect! IP: Logged |
Doreen Knowflake Posts: 389 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted September 23, 2011 06:09 AM
I have a composite chart that is exactly what this whole thread is about and I have a question is there anyway I can e-mail you RunAroundScreaming ? IP: Logged |