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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted January 12, 2012 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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YoursTrulyAlways, the composite is "okay"
You at least have most of the planets clustered together on one side of the chart so that's good. That means there is direction and a sense of unity there. However, it doesn't show a very loving chart. There is no love stellium because the sun and venus are not conjunct, the sun and mercury are not conjunct, and the mercury and venus are barely conjunct. Neptune thrown in there is nice, and the sun reining jupiter is nice, plus mars thrown in there means fun times and a tendency to wake each other up. But the relationship is not ery romantic with venus only trining saturn, and the intimacy is not too good either with the moon barely making any aspects.

However, it is a harmonious relationship, and a good friendship. Sun trine jupiter shows that. And neptune in there, too. I guess maybe if you have really good synastry it could be romantic because jupiter and neptune are romantic often, especially neptune, but the fact that the venus and moon are so unaspected worries me about the future of the relationship. Mars theown in there would be what makes a sexual attraction possible. It depends on the synastry, honestly. I'm just saying it's only an "okay" chart. This isnt going to be the love of your life you cant possibly live without.



Huh?

Btw, its a 40% orb chart. There are moon aspects and plenty of others.

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posted January 12, 2012 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 12, 2012 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey lilithpluto, post up the chart!!

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posted January 12, 2012 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:

Huh?

Btw, its a 40% orb chart. There are moon aspects and plenty of others.



Is this the composite with your wife?


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posted January 12, 2012 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Hey lilithpluto, post up the chart!!

Eh... but no point post up since I dun feel anything for either of them and I err...

Hmmmm... say runsaroundscreaming, will you look at a composite chart for m but not the above two i mentioned? Wait, I dun want to know now... u just mentioned neptune.. We have composite juno conjunct jupiter which is square neptune.

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posted January 12, 2012 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Is this the composite with your wife?

Of course it is!

Why would I be posting a composite with any other woman? Aren't composites only for those in a serious relationship?

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posted January 12, 2012 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are the ones without the adjusted Orb.



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posted January 12, 2012 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synastry
Trine Sun – Mercury 2
Conjunction Venus – Uranus 1
Conjunction Jupiter – Uranus 1
Conjunction Mercury – Uranus 1
Conjunction Venus – Pluto 2
Opposition Venus – Mars 2
Conjunction Jupiter – Pluto 1
Trine Mercury – Pluto 1
Trine Mars – Jupiter 2
Trine Mars - Pluto 2

Composite
Sun Conjunct Mars
Sun Opposition Ascendant
Sun Trine Jupiter
Moon Square Pluto
Moon Square Uranus
Mars Opposition Ascendant
Mars Trine Jupiter
Venus Conjunct Neptune
Venus Trine Saturn
Venus Sextile Pluto
Venus Sextile Uranus
Jupiter Square Pluto
Jupiter Square Uranus
Jupiter Square Saturn
Mercury Conjunct Neptune
Saturn Trine Neptune
Uranus Sextile Neptune
Neptune Sextile Pluto
Mercury Opposition Ascendant
Mercury Trine Saturn
Mercury Sextile Pluto
Mercury Sextile Uranus
Saturn Opposition Uranus
Uranus Conjunct Pluto
Saturn Opposition Pluto

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posted January 12, 2012 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is what it is. If this does not present itself as a very loving relationship after 19 years of marriage and 4 children, then so be it. These are just charts. From my four-legged Earthy perspective, I live in the real world. This is a large part why I don't get astrology.

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posted January 12, 2012 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
H yourstrulyalways i have to go but taking a quick look ur more than fine....the other composite did not show all those aspects...why did u make it that way?

The composite chart is great u have plenty of pluto and plenty of aspects going on lol....okay. Dont have time to look at synastry right now but shall check later

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posted January 12, 2012 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Holy ******* cheese that synastry is on fire. Lmao. Nice! No wonder u guys are married. See, i told u the synastry matters too. Didnt really look at the composite too much dont have time but from what i could see it looks like it is on fire too.

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posted January 12, 2012 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okie, my curiosity got the better of me.
Composite Chart, anyone? I'm mentally prepared for the worst!

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Many thanks!

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posted January 12, 2012 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is a great composite! Almost all planets are clustered together....u do have sun conjunct saturn but it is also conjunct jupiter so it explains the attraction. Jupiter often revives what saturn kills lol. But since it is still conjunct saturn i say be careful, venus negative aspect uranus not good, means unstable on off relationship, but hey that can be overcome and u have venus sextile pluto that is always awesome. Dont have time to look at anything else, but trust me it's a good one

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posted January 12, 2012 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RAS,I,have a synastry question,if you have time?

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posted January 12, 2012 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lilithpluto the synastry is amazing. Nothing beats the subastry YOurstrulyalways posted though. That's probably the craziest most amazing synastry ive ever seen lol.

Lilith, Was able to take a better look at composite. Everything is fine. The only thing i would say to watch out for is sun square neptune (uh-oh! Disillusionment!) and sun conjunct saturn obviously (eventually u both make other depressed....be sure to include some fun play and lightness in there) and venus negative aspect uranus ...on and off relationship. Didnt check how close the orb is for that one though, orbs are pretty important. Is it tight for the uranus-venus?

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posted January 12, 2012 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok if it is a quick question yeah

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posted January 12, 2012 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About saturn conjunct or negative aspectinf sun meaning unrequited love, i have seen it mean that MOST of the time in the composite...but def not all the time. Like my best friend and her guy have all planets clusetered togethe with the love stellium in there and saturn conjunct the sun, and they may have a lot of financial troubles, sickness problems, family problems, general problems where they feel like teu are constantly figthting them too agains the world which is exactly what saturn does! But they do love each other. The thing is that saturn/sun makes people feel not only depresse and held down together, but life also makes it so that they have no choice but to feel that way, but they mature a lot with all those repsonsibilities. And the reason why it is usually unrequited love is because the other person feels this repression when being around the orher person that makes them not enjoy being around them......both of i take life way seriously when ur together. Again jupiter conjunct sun remedies that a lot and makes for a lot of laughs together...but eventually u'll see what i mean lol bc jupiter conjunct sun doesnt make it obvious at first....but it'll be hard to not feel held down when ur around that person.

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posted January 12, 2012 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Btw i dint use juno or vesta or any of that stuff so u can just take te asteroids out, it is very confusing. They probably have a significance, i. just havent looked into asteroids much

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posted January 12, 2012 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ok if it is a quick question yeah

Libra Mars/Saturn conj opposing Aries Mars/Venus conj?

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posted January 12, 2012 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I look at their composite chart, one thing pops up in my head:

Chart ruler taurus/venus falling in the 7th house of partnership/relationships. If that's not somewhat important, then I don't know what is.

Of course, venus is also conjunct neptune, which yes - it can cause illusions and confusions in the partnership/marriage. But what about the better side of neptune (in which relates more to their relationship)? They are able to become "one" in a sense, through their relationship. Perhaps it is one of those cases where hard aspects of neptune becomes a good thing - that it is an idealized union that is a highly spiritual bond.

But I guess we would have to examine how neptune plays out in their individual charts.

Also - they have a lot of saturn aspects in the composite. I've heard many things (all usually bad) about saturn. But apparently saturn is what held these two people together.

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posted January 12, 2012 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah I have noticed that people on this forum focus wayyyyyyyyyyyy to much on the negative side of neptune instead of the positive side of neptune....

Neptune is very spiritual connection and soulmate connection and very idealistic and beautiful....it doesn't have to be about not seeing clearly and delusions. I have always been able to see clearly people's strengths and defects and still have feelings for them and I think this is bc my strongest planet is neptune and my sun sign and mercury are virgo so I see the defects but choose to love unconditionally and in synastry and composite I like neptune aspects and find them to facilitate unconditional love not an aspect that facilitates delusions etc....

Its annoying the over focus on the negative with neptune in this entire forum! Is such a beautiful planet about unconditional love.

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posted January 12, 2012 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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H yourstrulyalways i have to go but taking a quick look ur more than fine....the other composite did not show all those aspects...why did u make it that way?

The folks at Astro.com want the Orb at 40% or less so that all aspects are 3 degrees or less. I did it that way as instructed over there.

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posted January 12, 2012 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Individual charts

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posted January 12, 2012 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are both Christians and it is Christianity that forms the foundation of our marriage.

Note my natal Neptune is in the 9th House and her natal Neptune is in the 5th House. My Neptune relates to God and Christianity.

Her Neptune relates to her second profession as a supporting movie actress (yes, she has an actual film repetoire, and some of the movies are Spike Lee's), and her main profession as a fashion model and fashion designer. It highlights the creative talent aspect.

In my case, Venus and Neptune go together.

She wouldn't have marrried me if I were not a Christian. I would just be some other blah blah guy. When I met her, she had FIVE active marriage proposals and five actual wedding engagement diamond rings to show for it. One was from a man with over $50 million dollars of *net worth*.


This is what I found about Neptune the 5th House:

Neptune in the 5th house often has strong acting ability, and this combination also indicates creative talent. The individual is usually highly romantic, and they can be enchanting and seductive as the siren. There is a longing and willingness to abandon the self and be swept away by love, and those with this placement are in love with love. However, the person has to be careful not to place romantic love on unrealistic pedestals or chase unavailable partner's, and they often fall in love with the image of someone rather than the real person.

With Neptune in the 5th house the person may have to examine the glamorous and illusory nature of lovers, romance, children, and creativity. This can manifest in the longing to have a child to feel totally fulfilled. Neptune in this sphere may also suffer disappointment and disillusionment when lovers or even children fail to live up to their dreams. Various people with this combination get themselves involved in unobtainable love affairs, and they can be extremely easy to seduce. Yet, it is said that through sacrifice and suffering the artist emerges.

It is also possible that these individuals have a child, who is artistically gifted. On the negative side it is also possible a child slides into drugs and alcohol, or they are sickly and weak. The youngster can be intuitive and sensitive, and they might be impressionable and gentle. Occasionally Neptune in the 5th house may lose a child, and this brings its own particular kind of suffering. Sacrifice may be made on the part of children, and if difficultly aspected they may feel martyred and turn to the child for salvation.

Where Neptune is placed we feel we want to do something good and pure. Many people with this position have adopted children, and sometimes it’s through the difficulty of having their own child. The need to make some kind of sacrifice is signified here, and these folks can also work with children. There are no boundaries where Neptune is placed, and so it is easy for them to enter into the imaginative and make-believe world of a child.


She is higly romantic. We have lost two children. My wife has made a God-like sacrifice for my son, who is sick and somewhat weakly. He is artisically gifted. He is intuitive and sensitive.

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posted January 12, 2012 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lilith Pluto,

I love that minor triangle of Venus-Pluto-Neptune in your composite. Very nice.


YTA,

your composite is absolutely fine, from several perspectives. And you know your synastry.

Just adding one more nuance to it:
the ruler of the DESC, Pluto, conjunct the ruler of the MC, Uranus, both being placed in 5th house.
A relationship with a purpose of becoming official and visible to the world, and an important area has to do with romance, erotic and children.
Pluto in the 5th is intensely erotic, just as BML there. And Uranus in 5th - did you come together very quick? Was it love at first sight?

BTW, even though some may not agree with me, astrology is a part of reality.
If the chart does not seem to reflect the reality, then either people are not seeing clearly what is really happening (which is more than unlikely in your case; time has already proved you right), or, and that is more often the case, the astrologers miss something important.

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