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Lioness
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posted January 14, 2012 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks... yes we work together, which is why its a secret cuz Im a manager and he is an employee...
We dont really argue.. If we disagree we do it with respect, then we take a break from each other.. Then go back like nothing every happen..

Ego is an issue... more so in the past then it is now...
Before neither of us would admit to anything... Now we both have,and we cant stop thinking about each other..
We talk about fighting it... But its difficult.

I think its consumed us both.. We have said we need a mental break from the other, cuz we cant focus on anything else..
We are giving each other some space at the moment to get our heads together... But its just some space... Its not over... we both agree its to intense to mange at times..

I guess we are both still fighting it... Plus he wont bend for me, and I wont bend for him... so WELL I guess thats the ego thing.. LOL

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posted January 14, 2012 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CerIdwen, the composite with your colleague is the way it is because of two things. You actually have a loose love stellium. But staurn squares all of it, and then some. You also have mars square saturn...not good not good. Saturn is basically the main reason you font like each other.

Then, there is the fact that you have a strong attraction. A sun-mercury-venus-mars stellium always leads to stron passions between two people. But the attraction and feelings are so heightene that if they should be enemies for whatever other factors in the chart, thn they would be INTENSE enemies, because they cannot help but react STRONGLY towards each other, whether that is a positive or negative reaction.

So basically saturn makes u hate each other, mars conjunct so many of the pwrersonal planets in the composite makes it a STROnG feeling hatred lol.

Moon squares in composite are actually not bad in my experience. It only means the two people have different life directions but there is a strong fasciantion between them bc they each have qualities the other wants.

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posted January 14, 2012 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lioness, i feel that the love you guys feel is because of that amazing synastry! Wow. You have it all! Then you also have moon opposite venus which is like moon square venus as i described it with Linda Jones...u love each other sooo much and are bursting with tender feelings and affection for each other.

Then the power struggles and unwillinges to "surrender" to the relationship (a strong theme with pluto squares and oppositions) is narrowed down to one simple little aspect: venus opposition pluto.

Your feelings of mutual dependency are not helped by moon conjunct pluto either. It makes two people be each other's crutch and comfort zone to an unhealthy level

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posted January 14, 2012 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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what I think though is that any composite of a love-relationship should have strong harmonious Venus-aspects with personal planets as well as possibly with Jupitr/Neptune/Pluto.
Without Venus (or the ruler of 5th house) playing a role, I just donīt think that people will fall in love with each other or really enjoy romantic bliss.

we def agree there

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posted January 14, 2012 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RunAround - Thank you for creating this thread. I wasn't aware of this at all. I mean I knew that Sun/Venus is a positive thing to have in the composite... but I didn't realise that having the Sun/Moon/Merc stellium is so important.
How interesting!!

What do you think of this composite chart? Would it work well as a long-term relationship or even marriage?

Is it a bad thing that the Moon is opposite this stellium?
Also would you count Mercury as being in 'conjunction' to the rest - even though the orb is wide?



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posted January 14, 2012 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Betty Boop, this is a nice composite, there is nothing to worry about. Moon opp venus is excellent like I said before about Lioness's composite.......Sun opp moon creates great fascination, it is not a bad aspect, the only thing is u will have different life directions, but that should make things interesting. You also have venus and sun trine mars which is great for sexuality and compatibility. The orb is pretty wide yeah, but as long as mercury is conjunct venus you're fine, they dont necessarily have to be all conjunct to be a love stellium. It will still be really loving. it is just that the tighter the orb the more loving. But wide orb is still loving just not as much as it could be if they were tight. The only thing i see in this composite is mercury opp saturn leads to a lot of awkward silences between you.....conversation is often awkward an triggers a lot of ur deepest fears and inadequacies.

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posted January 14, 2012 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Right. Definitely. Lol it's okay. I'm pretty sure I've only said that negative neptune aspects are an illusion. If I didn't then that's my mistake. I also think that only negative pluto aspects are bad. Trines and sextiles with pluto and neptune have not caused any problems with me. Yet, I think that negative pluto and neptune aspects can be overcome and they are definitely worth overcoming, bevause they can bring two people even closer together after overcoming all the challenges and still having stuck together.

The only planets I have a problem with, which I think are extremely difficult to overcome and where I think people should just give up are saturn and uranus negative aspects. But especially saturn, and mostly just in the composite chart, because the composite chart shows forces about a relationship you cant control. I've seen uranus overcome if there is only one negative uranus aspect in the composite, but if there's more than one in the composite as well as in sunastry, I think it's doomed to always be an on again off again relationship lol.


Saturn conjuncts mercury the ruler of our 7th house in our composite and it also conjuncts mars ruler of our second. So Should I divorce my husband based on this and just give up even though we love each other strongly and our relationship is fun and filled with adventures in addition to the hard times??!

On and we have a jupiter/saturn/pluto stellium in the 8th.

Edit to add:

Saturn is the ruler of our 11th house. In march we have been 5 years together. We are always in an adventure.......we follow our dreams together and make them come true united .

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posted January 14, 2012 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Lioness, i feel that the love you guys feel is because of that amazing synastry! Wow. You have it all! Then you also have moon opposite venus which is like moon square venus as i described it with Linda Jones...u love each other sooo much and are bursting with tender feelings and affection for each other.

Then the power struggles and unwillinges to "surrender" to the relationship (a strong theme with pluto squares and oppositions) is narrowed down to one simple little aspect: venus opposition pluto.

Your feelings of mutual dependency are not helped by moon conjunct pluto either. It makes two people be each other's crutch and comfort zone to an unhealthy level


Thank u RAS... now you see why Ive been crazy nuts for this guy for so long...

Ive never had so much feeling for one person....
Even seeing his face, brightens my day... I adore everything about this man... I would do anything for him..
But yes that feeling of "i need him" kills me inside.. I struggle with it everyday..
I dont need anyone... I depend on myself.. but him I need... Thats super scary for me..
We are so affectionate with each other..
Its like a make believe story tale...

I keep telling myself,Im stuck in a fairy tale book...Its all in your head...
But then I see him, then my eyes just sparkle and my heart drops to my stomach.. I get the biggest smile..
He makes me feel like Im floating on cloud 9...
The fear its immense... I dont want to loose myself, my identity..

I really dont know what to do here.....
I want to end it, but I dont and I cant...


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posted January 14, 2012 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lioneness, Enjoy!!

This kind of chemistry you have to take advantage of when it crosses your path and enjoy it.......just make sure to still do things on your own that make you happy without him and establish strong boundaries with him and you will not lose your identify and still benefit from letting the relationship transform you. Confront your fears and step into the dark thrilling unknown of Pluto!!!

Yes you might get hurt but its worth it I feel, it will be worth it and make you stronger. And it might just have a happy ending, why not?! probably will actually as you guys are older so more mature and better at dealing with relationship bc of experience... I was too young when I met my ex.

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posted January 14, 2012 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lioneness, Enjoy!!

This kind of chemistry you have to take advantage of when it crosses your path and enjoy it.......just make sure to still do things on your own that make you happy without him and establish strong boundaries with him and you will not lose your identify and still benefit from letting the relationship transform you. Confront your fears and step into the dark thrilling unknown of Pluto!!!

Yes you might get hurt but its worth it I feel, it will be worth it and make you stronger. And it might just have a happy ending, why not?! probably will actually as you guys are older so more mature and better at dealing with relationship bc of experience... I was too young when I met my ex.


I know.. Dont worry tomorrow I will say.. Im never given him up and will fight... LOL

Anyways.. TONITE Im going out with the girls... GIRLS NITE!!! GIRLS NITE!!!!

Which Im sure will relax me a bit... Cant wait...
Come on girls.. Lets go out.

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posted January 14, 2012 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 14, 2012 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OOO and RAS...

We both have Venus sq Pluto in our Natals.

We dont have venus/pluto,in synastry just in the composite.

In synastry we have a both way moon sextile pluto.

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posted January 14, 2012 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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OOO and RAS...

We both have Venus sq Pluto in our Natals.

We dont have venus/pluto,in synastry just in the composite.

In synastry we have a both way moon sextile pluto.


Wow, a DW moon-Pluto aspect?

Can you post ur birth dates?

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posted January 14, 2012 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Saturn conjuncts mercury the ruler of our 7th house in our composite and it also conjuncts mars ruler of our second. So Should I divorce my husband based on this and just give up even though we love each other strongly and our relationship is fun and filled with adventures in addition to the hard times??!

On and we have a jupiter/saturn/pluto stellium in the 8th.

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Saturn is the ruler of our 11th house. In march we have been 5 years together. We are always in an adventure.......we follow our dreams together and make them come true united .


I don't know about that ruler of this and that house stuff. That's Ceridwen's area of expertise lol. It seems to make sense though. Of course Amelia. Yes, you should divorce your husband because mercury conjuncts Saturn in the composite and that means awkward silences...that could break up any relationship.
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Yes of course, one slightly annoying aspect like mars conjunct Saturn which means your egos are not always in sync is perfectly good reason to divorce him....

That's the truth, and any decent astrologer would tell you to do the same.

Kay, are you done trying to cause drama now? Thanks. O_o

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posted January 14, 2012 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
Saturn conjuncts mercury the ruler of our 7th house in our composite and it also conjuncts mars ruler of our second. So Should I divorce my husband based on this and just give up even though we love each other strongly and our relationship is fun and filled with adventures in addition to the hard times??!

On and we have a jupiter/saturn/pluto stellium in the 8th.

Edit to add:

Saturn is the ruler of our 11th house. In march we have been 5 years together. We are always in an adventure.......we follow our dreams together and make them come true united .


I don't know about that ruler of this and that house stuff. That's Ceridwen's area of expertise lol. It seems to make sense though. Of course Amelia. Yes, you should divorce your husband because mercury conjuncts Saturn in the composite and that means awkward silences...that could break up any relationship.
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Yes of course, one slightly annoying aspect like mats conjunct Saturn which means your egos are not always in sync is perfectly good reason to divorce him....

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posted January 14, 2012 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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OOO and RAS...

We both have Venus sq Pluto in our Natals.

We dont have venus/pluto,in synastry just in the composite.

In synastry we have a both way moon sextile pluto.


Wow, a DW moon-Pluto aspect?

Can you post ur birth dates?

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posted January 14, 2012 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so I should ignore everything else good about our relationship and not try to work on the weaknesses! Wow.......I really do hope you don't become a psychologist.

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posted January 14, 2012 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awkward silences???........more like excessive conversation is what is like with us!

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posted January 14, 2012 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol....was kidding

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posted January 14, 2012 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wow, a DW moon-Pluto aspect?

Can you post ur birth dates?



Do you have email.. I dont want to put it publicly..

R u on line right now?

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posted January 14, 2012 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lol....was kidding

Thank God......that mars saturn description was true though.....ego clashes! And we do need to work on this and we have to overcome this.

But too much conversation! I do have difficulty listening to him if he doesn't keep things at a reasonable length bc he just goes into too much detail and can talk for hours about everything and since sag is my strongest sign I grow impatient and want him to be more brief about what he is explaining. I like all the things he has to say and admire his intellect a lot just want him to deliver it more briefly.....that is more like a natal thing..he has venus in the third and I in the 9th, his venus and mine conjunct, and he has gemini rising and I have sag rising! Is not even our Mercuries as they sextile each other.

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posted January 14, 2012 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry you were clearly been sarcastic! RAS. My bad!

I need to sleep that is why. Goodnight! and thanks for replying!

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posted January 14, 2012 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol. No problem . Good night! Sleep well

Lioness! Yeah, I'm online here u go
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posted January 14, 2012 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, Amelia, if you could send me the birth times for u n ur husband right now that would be super hehe

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