posted May 23, 2014 02:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
but what about venus square Pluto?

I personally think (hard) aspects from 8th to 12 th house could be dangerous if planets like mars and Pluto are involved

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passion, its all about passion and inner pain..I have Venus square Pluto and I cant even kill a fly even if she goes on my nerves..No, pluto is connected with deep, overwhelming emotions and Sadists and killers usually dont have those , not in that way...they are more self-centered, unable to really feel and thats why they try everything, even killing, in a hope they might feel something evetually..

posted May 23, 2014 02:55 PM            

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Originally posted by pocaloca:
passion, its all about passion and inner pain..I have Venus square Pluto and I cant even kill a fly even if she goes on my nerves..No, pluto is connected with deep, overwhelming emotions and Sadists and killers usually dont have those , not in that way...they are more self-centered, unable to really feel and thats why they try everything, even killing, in a hope they might feel something evetually..

Imagine Pluto as obsessive, passioned , one who might kill in affect , but Saturn is cold,sovereign, precise.. he kills planed and with system . Sadists act usually very disciplined and with plan.

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posted May 23, 2014 03:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
I have venus sq Pluto as well. Okay, venus sq Pluto and mars square saturn and mars trine Pluto. I must be a dreadfully passionate person and I think I am. When i was younger I loved watching/reading love dramas. Today I think it's ridiculous. Love should never ever hurt.

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posted May 23, 2014 07:55 PM            

sq Uranian Libra he indulges in sexual affairs and prefers open relations. His sexual tastes are very nonconformist and shocking to most.

Pluto sq Sun and Mercury, he had an offensive tongue and wrote about very taboo subjects. He has a very dark mind and an abusive, controlling personality. He loved dominance!

Venus sq Jupiter, he was sensually indulgent and hardly could of contained himself.
Moon sq Pluto he hated women and controlled them due to his insecurities from his childhood by his insufferable mother. He is emotionally drawn to a woman he sees the vulnerability in,

William Byrd II has Mars conjuct Neptune, he had no boundaries regarding women's sexual privacy and often invaded them!
He had twisted fantasies that were hard to act on, better to write than do.

Moon sq Sun, his male and female energies are disharmonious!

Moon opposite Pluto emotionally dominated women through fear to gain his power back..

posted May 23, 2014 08:01 PM            

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Originally posted by bonadea33:
Here are two Natal Charts with the time, 9:00 am, where he has ASC Leo. I think that he was ASC Scorpio, with Pluto in 12th. Beside that he had Mars in Aries, pretty aggressive man.

Natal Chart, 1: http://tinypic.com/r/24l6hic/7

Natal Chart, 2: http://tinypic.com/r/4gm2hk/7

Somebody with ASC Leo couldn't be sadist, like he was.

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