posted May 01, 2012 06:01 PM            

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Been rejected and def felt like crushing defeat.

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I can't really relate. I don't feel this way. But I have Mars conj Neptune. I know this is different to Mars/Pluto aspects. Ever since my first love who has a Mars/Pluto opposition - I've been wary of getting involved with one.. just because our take on love/relationships/rejection/everything dating related, is so different.
I actually posted about this, the other day in the 'what are you wary of' thread.

With Mars/Neptune conj - I want people to be happy at the end of the day - including myself. I could never be happy with a person who wants something else .. or someone else, and they could never be happy either. It's like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. So if someone leaves - I feel like: "All the best!".. If they don't want to be with me, it's all good. I am friends with all my exes, other than the Mars/Pluto one... I think he hates me.. so - yeah.. It's pretty impossible to get any normal/nice behaviour out of him (and mind you, I'm a patient person).
This take that Mars/Pluto seems to have on relationships - that it is a battle in which you either win or are defeated - has caused me so much emotional pain. It just hurts me sooooo much that someone can see our relationship this way. I guess I should not take it so personally, since we are just different. But it is upsetting. Specially when he projected things onto me and pretended that I also saw it as a battle... when I was not even 'fighting' him in any way.
It is just strange.

I have to say though - the guys with Scorpio Mars I know were sweet and healing emotionally. I actually feel like the Leo guy w. Sco Mars - (I mentioned him earlier in this thread) healed all the wounds I still had from the Mars opp Pluto guy.

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Rejection is personal, let's not kid ourselves.

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posted May 01, 2012 06:43 PM            

I understand why you feel that way and I am sorry you went through that. You are right, the take on relationships is totally different. I have Mars trine Neptune also, so I do get where you're coming from as well and I also agree. But the Mars/Pluto is, however, a very raw, primal energy that you cannot fully control, as opposed to Mars/Neptune which is piece of cake from this point of view. It is, almost every single time, a matter of life and death. It FEELS that way to us. Once you invested affection and emotion in a relationship, there is no turning back. You know it's going to end eventually and you'd do anything to avoid that but it's not just up to you unfortunately. I have always been very civil when rejected. Though on the outside I would seem unaffected, my insides were tearing, body shivers, I get dizzy, vision went black, sound went off and all I could think about was those words, that look on his face, my humiliation, the lonely pathetic road ahead... and the panic. Panic is the most obnoxious feeling to me. I excuse myself with a forced smile and rush immediately home/to a private place where I can break. On the way there I make every possible attempt to remain cool and collected but once I pass my doorstep... let's just say nobody has seen me like that, ever, and I would very much prefer to keep it that way. It would creep the hell out of anybody watching. I am not violent, but I can be very self-destructive in quite various ways, non-violent though.
So you see, there is no humanly possible way to control all that - some yes, God knows I am trying because I also have Saturn conj Pluto and opp Mars. Some of the reactions are reflexes, biological responses to chemical compounds being released in your blood. It is fight or flight mode. Adrenaline. Survival mode. Primal. Instinctive. Raw. It is the rug pulled from underneath you. And you panic. I dread that, anything BUT that. That is my most irrational, uncontrolable moment, it is my weakest hour.

I managed to remain friends with most of my exes too. Prolly because I ended most of my relationships first lol. But I actually am friends with the others too. I do eventually get over my hurt ego but I NEVER forget the hurt. Or the panic. And would probably do anything to avoid feeling like that ever again - including not falling in love for eternity (but doesn't last long for Aries lol so I keep practicing until I make perfect).

posted May 01, 2012 07:12 PM            

He smells BS from a planet away. Can't even try to be "vague" with him at all or else he'll keep drilling.

posted May 01, 2012 07:21 PM            

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Originally posted by freebrainstorms:
ugh maybe i should take the fact that this guy ISN'T pursuing me as a sign he isn't interested in me then. it's so hard to be passive as a sag mars.... Mind you, he did follow me from computer lab to computer lab after i changed rooms on him but he might've just moved to get away from me after i awkwardly hit on him the week before in the other computer lab.
blech, i hate this **** .

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posted May 01, 2012 09:06 PM            

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Sounds to me like the guy is into you,but is extremely shy.

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Word on the street is - the extremely shy Scorpio Mars men are on vacation with the friendless lonely Aquarius men, the emotionally unreliable Taurus Moon men, the sexually promiscuous Capricorn Mars men and all those calm/non-confrontational people, with an Aries Moon & Mars.
They realized that they were all so rare and special – so they decided to ‘hang out’!

posted May 01, 2012 09:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
aquaguy -

Word on the street is - the extremely shy Scorpio Mars men are on vacation with the friendless lonely Aquarius men, the emotionally unreliable Taurus Moon men, the sexually promiscuous Capricorn Mars men and all those calm/non-confrontational people, with an Aries Moon & Mars.
They realized that they were all so rare and special ? so they decided to ?hang out?!

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posted May 01, 2012 09:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
loll
I know.. like.. just because you have a Taurus Moon... it doesn't mean you are emotionally reliable.
I once met a Taurus Moon man who fell in love with 5 different women at the same time.

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posted May 02, 2012 12:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
@ sand - I think MIS can definitely be aggressive... but... it's not normally unwarranted... My gut feeling is to be 'right behind them' (my Mars is Cap as you know..)

But if the MIS person has some serious issues happening at the time, such as an illness or some huge emotional problem, and they are not thinking straight --- then it's possible for them to be unfair.

Would you say this applies to you ^?
Or are you more... calm/laid back like Taurus? lol

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I'm a h12 libra, I think that means issues with fairness/ being fair. At least that's how someone explained it to me. I think it applies lol! The placement I have that would keep me fair is the Leo moon but now if it's an emotional problem then I may lose that.

posted May 02, 2012 12:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Mars in Scorpio may be a great placement but placed in the wrong house might manifest its power in the worst way or can lose its power. This is available for both males and females.

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posted May 02, 2012 02:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
aquaguy -

Word on the street is - the extremely shy Scorpio Mars men are on vacation with the friendless lonely Aquarius men, the emotionally unreliable Taurus Moon men, the sexually promiscuous Capricorn Mars men and all those calm/non-confrontational people, with an Aries Moon & Mars.
They realized that they were all so rare and special – so they decided to ‘hang out’!

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posted May 02, 2012 02:36 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
What house would be the strongest? H8?

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posted May 02, 2012 10:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Hera - I'm sorry about the way I posted that, because I think I came off patronising. That was just about him, not about you.. It's just that he does have the same aspect in his chart - and what you said reminded me of the way he behaved.
But I think our situation was different and we were also young. There is always a higher manifestation of any aspect... even difficult ones like Mars opp Pluto. The biggest problem was that he was also very vindictive.
But I think you are right that he ended up hurting himself more than he hurt me - It is just sad though.
sigh

ANY - way.....
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Oh Betty, no worries! I understood where you were coming from and I didn't think you sounded patronizing at all. In fact, it's good for me to know how Mars/Pluto behaviour is perceived by their partners. I have supressed that energy most of my life and instead projected it on the outside (abusive relationships, violence, rape attempts etc), but lately I've started to not reject it so blindly and find ways to express it more positively. All that raw energy has to go somewhere!

posted May 02, 2012 03:35 PM            

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Originally posted by polysigh:
I know that Mars relates to how a person goes after what they want and how they exert their energy. Any experiences to share regarding a man with Mars in Scorpio and how they pursue a potential love interest?

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Someone being pursued by a Mars in Scorpio almost has no chance. The Warrior. The Hunter. One second they act like you're not even there, the next, you're under the microscope.

posted May 03, 2012 12:04 AM            

my crush has mars in scorpio conjunct saturn. his mc is also in scorpio.

i am scorpio sun, venus, mercury, and pluto. my sun is conjunct mercury and venus is conjunct pluto.

mars in scorpio to my scorpio venus...hot hot hot
but, im concerned.

i have moon and rising in taurus, conjunct.

many of the astrology sites state that his mars in scorpio will hurt my moon, that he may be inconsiderate toward my feelings because of the opposition, or that at least, ill feel hurt by his mars.

is this true?
i mean, im so much more scorpionic than him, so isnt it possible that id be able to handle and understand his mars better?
instead of my moon getting all crushed up by it?

posted May 03, 2012 02:59 AM              

Mars in Scorp at 25'.....hot hot hot...will seduce you effortlessly with glances that seem to speak volumes, just oozes sex appeal

posted May 03, 2012 03:23 AM            

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it would freak the hell out of me to be with someone with Mars/Pluto, knowing what I know. So I do understand what you're saying

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OMG That would just be crazy! Twp Mars/Pluto people
lollll

posted May 03, 2012 03:23 AM            

this kid is different, he has enough fire, air and a little bit of earth, which is exciting...and
im positive this is a first for me when it comes to mars in scorpio.

that mars in scorp, the first time i saw him, i was:....
and i knew something else had to be going on astrology wise.

posted May 03, 2012 03:26 AM            

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his mars is in 12 degrees.
my taurus moon is in 16 degrees

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posted May 03, 2012 03:27 AM            

His masculinity and your femininity are perfectly in sync.

posted May 03, 2012 03:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
I just love these Taurus-Scorpio oppositions in synastry. I think they are nice for long-term attraction and devotion. It can last a life time.

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betty,
what ive seen is that
if the girl is the one with the taurus moon and the guy is the one with the scorpio placements, then it works better than the other way around.