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Topic: Sesquiquadrate in Synastry
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Fuzzy
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posted December 03, 2011 10:23 AM
  
Does anyone know about this?  What kind of an effect does it have, if any? (let's say if it's very close). Is it similar to a square or an opposition? ------------------
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Fuzzy
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posted December 03, 2011 11:15 AM
+ composites too, actually.
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Leonine8
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posted December 03, 2011 11:25 AM
sQ = Weaker effect than square
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Fuzzy
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posted December 03, 2011 12:16 PM
So it's felt just like a square (but weaker) or is there a difference to it?IP: Logged |
Taineberry
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posted December 04, 2011 12:11 PM
This is how I understand sesquiquadrates :
The sesquisquare/sesquiquadrate/trioctile 135 degree aspect between two planets in your chart is indicative of the area of life in which you are determined to act energetically without a clear understanding of what the consequences of your actions will be.This excessive drive to proceed without balancing your will to succeed against the requirements of others that you may be affecting, or understanding of how society at large views the matter, is annoying to others. You may make excuses to justify your behavior and blow facts out of proportion, but your way forward will be blocked until such time as you learn to slow down and curb whatever behavior is overly excessive and preventing you from participating in synch with the rest of the world. You badly need to slow down and formulate an awareness of how society and others work in this area, and stop bulldozing your way forward. Once you learn to overcome your resistance to slowing down and adjusting your approach, your energy can be used to produce positive results, accompanied by a real transformation in your approach which takes into account your responsibilities and obligations to others and society at large.
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defeat
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posted December 05, 2011 03:03 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Taineberry:
This is how I understand sesquiquadrates :
The sesquisquare/sesquiquadrate/trioctile 135 degree aspect between two planets in your chart is indicative of the area of life in which you are determined to act energetically without a clear understanding of what the consequences of your actions will be.This excessive drive to proceed without balancing your will to succeed against the requirements of others that you may be affecting, or understanding of how society at large views the matter, is annoying to others. You may make excuses to justify your behavior and blow facts out of proportion, but your way forward will be blocked until such time as you learn to slow down and curb whatever behavior is overly excessive and preventing you from participating in synch with the rest of the world. You badly need to slow down and formulate an awareness of how society and others work in this area, and stop bulldozing your way forward. Once you learn to overcome your resistance to slowing down and adjusting your approach, your energy can be used to produce positive results, accompanied by a real transformation in your approach which takes into account your responsibilities and obligations to others and society at large.
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this is golden how would it be in synastry?
two people really put a lot of effort in that domain, without any possitive/significant progress??
if the above is true, wouldn't it be even harder to deal with than a square? IP: Logged |
defeat
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posted December 15, 2011 04:39 PM
i just want to make sure i understand htis right.
this aspect makes you put in a lot of effort into cultivating these energies, but hte more you try the further away you get from it.
and possibly the lesson is to stop trying to have these qualities and let them go? because once you let them go, you'll be free from the tension that comes from chasing it.IP: Logged |
defeat
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posted December 16, 2011 08:57 PM
bump ^IP: Logged |
Leonine8
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posted December 16, 2011 11:09 PM
This is actually a clear explanation that does apply to synastry also.
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Capriquarius
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posted December 16, 2011 11:34 PM
Well, since they're in the same element, it has that lazy effect of the trine but without the easy results. So you might find yourself joking around and being playfully sarcastic with the other person, thinking you "get" each other, but somehow they perceive it a little differently from you and end up getting offended.IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted January 21, 2012 07:54 PM
*bump*My Mars (Capricorn) is closely sesquiquadrate someone's Venus (Taurus) in synastry... I can't put my finger on *why* - but overall I actually like it more than the sextile, the square and the opposition. There is an attraction between us that is neither lazy nor too 'overt'. It feels just right. I was never the Mars-person in a Venus/Mars trine or conjunction - so I can't compare with those. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted January 21, 2012 07:57 PM
Any other experiences with the sesquiquadrate? IP: Logged |
Madpoe
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posted April 25, 2013 03:57 PM
I'm not understanding why this sesquiuadrate would pop up in synastry when some of them are falling in the same sign. i.e.venus Aquarius sQ Saturn Gemini
jupiter gemini sQ Asc Aquarius should sesquiquadrate be read as squares when comparing? IP: Logged |
GemNymph
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posted April 25, 2013 04:17 PM
This tends to be more of an issue in a natal chart because it's just the native trying to work out this uncomfortable energy and may lack perspective on their own, at least until they make a few mistakes. It acts a bit like a square crossed with a quincunx, in my experience, and can be ambigiously felt by the native, like many minor aspects. In some charts, especially if one or both planets are critically afflicted, it can indicate very self-defeating habits or cyclic behaviors that progressively worsen over time. Otherwise, it's a "live and learn" kind of aspect, one that can kick you in the seat of your pants when you need it, by letting your mistakes or bad habits (usually relating directly to the planets involved) draw attention to things you need to address or change. In synastry you have the other person to help you get perspective and that helps manage this energy better. And like with other minor aspects in synastry, any issues with this may likely not show up until later in the relationship, when the two people have gotten in established habits and patterns with each other that allow things relating to minor aspects to come to the surface without being drowned out by major aspects. I wouldn't worry about this aspect in a composite unless one of the people had a significant aspect overlay in their chart with it in the composite, especially with a lumariary in the natal chart. That may make the composite sQ an issue specifically for that person.
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GemNymph
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posted April 25, 2013 04:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Madpoe:
I'm not understanding why this sesquiuadrate would pop up in synastry when some of them are falling in the same sign. i.e.venus Aquarius sQ Saturn Gemini
jupiter gemini sQ Asc Aquarius should sesquiquadrate be read as squares when comparing?
A trine is 120 degree and sesqui-quadrate is 135 degree--it's right outside the wider side of a trine's orb. The max orb I would allow for this is 132-138 degrees in a natal, probably no more than 133.5 to 136.5 degrees in synastry. That's why you can get this aspect with signs that are in the same element. As Isaid above, it's a bit like a square crossed with a quincunx, but it's a minor aspect so it shouldn't be given the same importance as a square. IP: Logged |
Madpoe
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posted April 29, 2013 09:10 AM
quote:
Originally posted by GemNymph:
A trine is 120 degree and sesqui-quadrate is 135 degree--it's right outside the wider side of a trine's orb. The max orb I would allow for this is 132-138 degrees in a natal, probably no more than 133.5 to 136.5 degrees in synastry. That's why you can get this aspect with signs that are in the same element. As Isaid above, it's a bit like a square crossed with a quincunx, but it's a minor aspect so it shouldn't be given the same importance as a square.
Many thanks for the insight!  IP: Logged |
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